Colt McCoy starting Sunday/RG3 Benched (Merge)

[HungarianColtsFan]

Your crow Mr. Bayless! It is better when served hot!

 

 

And if you wish you can purchase RG3 merchandise at 'Skins fans. Expect big discount!

[Sting]

Don't forget skip bayless!

I didn't forget Skip Clueless, he is the head clown.  

[GoColts8818]

Wow I knew the Colts took the right QB but I figured we would get atleast one Luck RG3 match up before RG3 busted out of the league.

[Blackhawk4]

Woo, Skip Bayless up to this point has been wrong. Learn something new everyday. 

[Happy2BeHere]

Here's a tidbit from an ESPN article...

"McCoy appeared in two games during Griffin's absence, replacing an ineffective Kirk Cousins. Washington won both contests, including a 20-17 overtime win against the division rival Dallas Cowboys.

McCoy threw for 427 yards and completed 85.7 percent of his passes in those matchups."

That's some good stats..like the article said small sample size but still...no doubt at this time McCoy is far more capable in the Skins' system than is RGIII and Cousins....and to think someone was shouting there mouth off before game #1 (some analysts I don't recall the name) that Cousins is absolutely a starter and should be in this league. He's had glimpses but that's all.

[chrisfarley]

The matchup everyone has been waiting for since 2012.

 

Colt vs. Colts

the battle of Lucky McCoy, sounds like a gun-slinger

[MJD42]

No apologies need....   but thanks...    

 

I just read the ESPN story and it says the Redskins -- at least for now -- still view RG3 as part of their future.

 

My initial reaction was that if they're serious about that,  then I think they're crazy.

 

My guess is RG3 starts the countdown to forcing his way out of town....  either by trade,  or getting released.

 

And with so much invested (4 draft picks)  I think that's a big deal.....

Not sure I follow. The draft picks have been long gone. This is year three and RG is not the franchise guy they thought when they drafted him.

 

Are they supposed to continue to play him just because? The goal is to win and McCoy looked very good vs Dallas a few weeks ago so I think they are making the right move now to see what they have in his kid and if he can be their guy next season.

 

It has been obvious from the last few weeks for anyone following the Redskins that management did not think RG was the guy. Gruden basically said as much when he ripped his game apart prior to last Sunday's game.

[sweetsurrender]

I don't like this. I would have rather had RG who was struggling and had the weight of expectations on his shoulders. McCoy played a very nice game vs Dallas a few weeks ago and won. He will come in with zero pressure. I still think the Colts win but not as easy a win if RG had been in there.

[backshoulderfade]

McCoy isn't going yo put up points on the Colts either. Griffin has a bucketload of talent too. Their D is strong and they have so many weapons. I genuinely think Jay Gruden is just an awful coach.

[MTC]

Oh man, does this mean we have to worry about this game?

[MTC]

And for those wondering, Grigson and company never had interest in drafting RG3. It was either drafting Luck or keeping Peyton (if we didn't have the first pick).

(I saw that discussion brought up a lot)

[ColtsBlueFL]

Jaws is on M & M now, and he says RGIII was missing the 'shot' plays; or what Arians calls the chunk plays.  He says Gruden's play calls were also 'hiding' RGIII.  At the end of the day, Jaws feels RGIII days as a Washington Redskin QB is essentially over.

[Bleedin Blue]

This feels like a trap game for the Colts.  Alfred Morris just put up 125 yards against a good SF defense.  Do you think they went over any tape of the Pats game this week?  They are going to feature a heavy dose of Morris and Colt McCoy is not rookie at QB.  He's faced some good defenses himself and as far more timely in the pocket and more accurate.  Their offensive line is pretty not great but our passrush has sucked lately so Colt may have lots of time in the pocket to find the open man...especially if we're selling out to stop the run.  

 

I don't feel good about this game.  Pagano and Manusky better have this defense ready.  They were pathetic against the Pats.  

[Dustin]

And for those wondering, Grigson and company never had interest in drafting RG3. It was either drafting Luck or keeping Peyton (if we didn't have the first pick).

(I saw that discussion brought up a lot)

Not what Irsay said.

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

Again Let's not give Mccoy his career day. . 25-29 400 yds 4 tds.. I can totally see that happening. Let's get after him fast

[House]

Not what Irsay said.

What did Irsay say?

[IndyD4U]

[Defjamz26]

At least we don't have to worry about RG3's speed..even though he doesn't use it as often. And the best thing about this is we don't have to hear Skip's mouth this week.

 

You'll hear it even more if anything. He'll say we never really found out who was better because RGIII was benched. But I don't care. The verdict is out for me. Benched by 2 different coaches, there's no more excuses. Hasn't had a win since he came back and the other QB's have outperformed him. Offense is loaded with weapons. The Redskins are still a terrible team but RGIII has difinitively proven he's a bust in my eyes.

[HungarianColtsFan]

What did Irsay say?

 

I don't have time to google it, but if i recall things right, Irsay alone decided to draft Luck (well Peyton pushed Irsay toward him too). My memory may confuse me, but Grigs & Pags haven't got to do anything to decide who to pick with 1/1.

 

Edit:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9827998/peyton-manning-advised-indianapolis-colts-draft-andrew-luck-jim-irsay-says

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000408047/article/jim-irsay-revisits-pivotal-peyton-manningandrew-luck-decision

Edited November 26, 2014 by HungarianColtsFan

[Franklin County]

Crap I was looking forward to the big gun fight. After all this time and Gruden pulled the plug.

[adamthyst]

Come on man..anything is possible YES... but it's not the PATS. I'll bet you were more confident going against the PATS and then BAAAM!! confidence crushed. It's the 'Skins man...sure there are trap games but I don't see that as this one. Our team gets it done this week guaranteed (almost)

That Cowboys game that McCoy started says otherwise.

[Narcosys]

Bummer. Was looking forward to crushing rg3. Oh well. Going to be at that game, anyone else?

[Dustin]

What did Irsay say?

Would have taken RG3 over Peyton.

[rsrobinson]

The Skins gave the 49ers a tough game in SF last week and probably would have won if they'd gotten any kind of quarterback play at all out of RG3. Starting Colt McCoy probably gives them a better shot this week against the Colts than Griffin would have.

RG3 is a hot mess mechanically, mentally, and emotionally. This is the second year in a row and the second coach that has benched him toward the end of the season. You don't do that to a guy you still hope will be a franchise quarterback in the future. He's done in DC no matter what the Redskins are saying for public consumption.

[pgt_rob]

Would have taken RG3 over Peyton.

 

Man that woulda sucked.

[1959Colts]

Here we go again...

Probably time for Colt McCoy's career game.

[Flash7]

Sure, we do have to worry about Alfred Morris and now McCoy, but Washington has to worry about facing the league's #1 offense in Andrew Luck, T.Y., Wayne, Moncrief, etc....

I would rather be on our side of the fence.

[Coltsman1788]

ahhhh, remember the good ol days when people actually thought he was better than luck? lol, fast forward 3 years later and hes being benched in favor of a guy thats barely played the last couple seasons. funny

Let's just hope the Colts win this game. The only thing funnier would be if that guy "who barely played the last couple of seasons" beats Andrew Luck.

[Superfly Jay]

The coaches don't like RGIII and neither do the players. He's as good as done in Washington. They don't even have anything to play for at this point of the season and he gets benched for Colt McCoy of all people. 

[ColtStronger]

All of this is just a bit ironic.  The biggest debate of 3 years ago for the best young QB involved these 2 guys and the first chance they get to play each other RG knee is benched (w/o being injured?).  In favor for the backup whose name is Colt.  I was waiting for this game since the 2012 draft, because I could see the future and knew RG 3int's was gonna be a bust!  Now I cant even boast that Skip Bayless (among many others) is an * (well I guess I still can), because RG3 isn't even playing.  This is a sad day for me, but I guess I will still enjoy the Colts beatdown of the Washington (dont say Redskins) lol.  Sorry Im clownin so much but I've made Robert Griffin the butt of alot of jokes since he was drafted and would really like that debate to never have been started because it was foolish from the get go.  This is my way of showing how Andrew got robbed out of the ROY and Heisman.  Not that it matters now, but how are you going to shoot down Luck because Stanford played alot better teams than Baylor, and RG3 wasn't even the best rookie on his team in 2012.  Now with RG3 being labeled a bust he doesn't get the satisfaction of showing the world, on the same stage, he was better all along.  It is a shame because back then the argument mattered, now it's a pointless debate, and you can never change the past... 

[B~Town]

Oh man, does this mean we have to worry about this game?

Yes it does they played very good football with McCoy at the helm . The big difference is the are effective passing the ball keeping drives going but there run game isn't as good with McCoy because the threat of RG3 running read option is gone .  

[ColtStronger]

And for those wondering, Grigson and company never had interest in drafting RG3. It was either drafting Luck or keeping Peyton (if we didn't have the first pick).

(I saw that discussion brought up a lot)

Appears as they made the correct decision! lol

[ColtStronger]

Bummer. Was looking forward to crushing rg3. Oh well. Going to be at that game, anyone else?

It was either Redskins or Texans...  With RG3 continue to struggle and never seeing a divisional game I chose to buy the game against Houston.  Plus I wanna see Clowney eat his words "Andrew better have his head on a swivel".  He said something else, anybody know what his first shot at Luck was?

[NewColtsFan]

Not sure I follow. The draft picks have been long gone. This is year three and RG is not the franchise guy they thought when they drafted him.

 

Are they supposed to continue to play him just because? The goal is to win and McCoy looked very good vs Dallas a few weeks ago so I think they are making the right move now to see what they have in his kid and if he can be their guy next season.

 

It has been obvious from the last few weeks for anyone following the Redskins that management did not think RG was the guy. Gruden basically said as much when he ripped his game apart prior to last Sunday's game.

 

Hey,  if you want to make the change then make the change.

 

But you've just announced that your huge trade with 4 draft picks (which the Rams turned into 8 players and all are still on the roster!)  is one giant bust.       And the owner has to sign-off on this.   Daniel Snyder didn't learn about this on SportsCenter or Total Access.     And Snyder has always been RG3's biggest supporter.

 

As for the goal to win....    it's not to win if the season is lost and you're still trying to find out if RG3 can develop into a decent quarterback.     That's your goal.      But, if the team thinks he's not,  then so be it.

 

I was simply not ready for the team to give up on the guy so quickly.   

[MJD42]

Hey,  if you want to make the change then make the change.

 

But you've just announced that your huge trade with 4 draft picks (which the Rams turned into 8 players and all are still on the roster!)  is one giant bust.       And the owner has to sign-off on this.   Daniel Snyder didn't learn about this on SportsCenter or Total Access.     And Snyder has always been RG3's biggest supporter.

 

As for the goal to win....    it's not to win if the season is lost and you're still trying to find out if RG3 can develop into a decent quarterback.     That's your goal.      But, if the team thinks he's not,  then so be it.

 

I was simply not ready for the team to give up on the guy so quickly.   

I am not so sure the decision is that final. They sat RG the final three games two years go in the vein of "keeping him healthy" but I think they were trying to take a look at Cousins then.

 

I agree that it does not bode well in one way but better for the org to admit the mistake now if that is where they are at and find their future QB than languish in it.

 

The draft picks stink but I have no issue with them giving them up to land who they thought would be their franchise guy. You take that risk every time. It just didn't work out seemingly. Their team is not in that bad of shape overall.

[kjyb]

lmaooo thats a hella creepy picture 

[Indycrazy1287]

Yuuuupppp just got the bleacher report update saying Washington is highly unlikely to keep RG3 after this season. No more subway commercials?...

[chad72]

McCoy isn't going to put up points on the Colts either. Griffin has a bucket load of talent too. Their D is strong and they have so many weapons. I genuinely think Jay Gruden is just an awful coach.

 

McCoy, the thing he does well, is be a good game manager and not put the Redskins D in bad positions at least. He does not have too many negative plays.

 

Besides, he beat us as part of the Cleveland Browns during our 2-14 year, so I would not take him lightly. At best, he is a poor man's Chad Pennington. He won't stretch the field and will dink and dunk, mostly.

 

Now, Pierre Garcon is thinking "what was I thinking, trying to go and play with RG3" .

[wesd2890]

Thats awesome.. lol.. i was actually at that preseason game in d.c which was their rookie years.. redskins but a hurtin on us that day

[Gavin]

Griffins struggled(His mechanics are awful) some but that O Line is a mess. I also think some of Grudens route concepts dont compliment each other, There was a couple times wr's wound up running to the same spot but Griffin has missed a wr deep a couple times. This could be a blessing for Griffin long term maybe if he takes advantage of it. I'd want the hell out of Washington if I were him even though Washington has the weapons for him to succeed