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Is being in consistently one of the worse divisions in the league hurting the Colts?  The rest of the division isn't challenging enough so we don't have to rise up and find our full potential.  They are not exploiting our weaknesses so we don't know what needs fixed.  Everyone thought our run D had improved until the Pats came to town and showed us it was still weak.  I realize there are 16 games a season but that's 6 games a year that we only have to play a little bit above average to win.  Just look at the Jacksonville game.  

I may be wrong but its something to think about.

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If we were winning 6 game, and only 6 games, every year, then I would buy into this notion.

The new trend seems to be caring way more about records of opponents, any given Sunday, and divisional records. Who cares. No one remembers these facts in the long view of history.

What was the divisional record for "The greatest show on turf" when they won the SB? No googling.

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Is being in consistently one of the worse divisions in the league hurting the Colts?  The rest of the division isn't challenging enough so we don't have to rise up and find our full potential.  They are not exploiting our weaknesses so we don't know what needs fixed.  Everyone thought our run D had improved until the Pats came to town and showed us it was still weak.  I realize there are 16 games a season but that's 6 games a year that we only have to play a little bit above average to win.  Just look at the Jacksonville game.  

I may be wrong but its something to think about.

 

I'd rather play in an terrible decision.  The goal is to make the playoffs and win a Super Bowl.  Playing in a terrible division makes getting into the playoffs easier.  We still get tested against the likes of New England and Denver in the regular season.

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At least we're beating our division easily like we're suppose to which we couldn't do with Manning at times.

 

I felt the Jaguars and Titans played much better D during the Peyton era than they have been lately in the Luck era. Jeff Fisher and the dogfights, I remember them very well. Jaguars under JDR were a chippy bunch too taking a lot of cheap shots too. It was the Texans that sucked for the longest time till Arian Foster and J.J.Watt came along and they got a tad more respectable.

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I went ahead and predicted every game for the rest of the season on ESPN's Playoff Machine....I have the Saints winning that division at 6-10.

 

That's crazy. The last team to make the playoffs with a sub .500 record was the Seahawks at 7-9, who hosted and beat the 11-5 Saints. Would be wild if the 6-10 Saints host the Seahawks.

 

Right now, the Falcons would host the Cowboys. That's stupid. I get having the division winner go to the playoffs, but I've always thought the team with the best record should host the game. Especially when there's a huge disparity in win totals...

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Is being in consistently one of the worse divisions in the league hurting the Colts?  The rest of the division isn't challenging enough so we don't have to rise up and find our full potential.  They are not exploiting our weaknesses so we don't know what needs fixed.  Everyone thought our run D had improved until the Pats came to town and showed us it was still weak.  I realize there are 16 games a season but that's 6 games a year that we only have to play a little bit above average to win.  Just look at the Jacksonville game.  

I may be wrong but its something to think about.

You win the division and make the playoffs..

So, no it doesn't hurt them....Never ever ask for a tougher schedule.

Enjoy it. Next season I believe we play the losers in the NFC South

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This team can beat good teams, the Patriots are their nemesis, always have been and always will be. Two teams I would never want to play include NE and SD.

This team has beat a couple very quality opponents this year and have a couple more quality opponents left to face which include Dallas and Clevland.

Last year they beat a barrage of quality teams. This is still the same team, in all honesty better IMO. The offense is significantly greater at least with regards to scoring and passing. From the D we've bseen the great, good, mediocre, bad & ugly.

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So it's supposed to be the Colts fault that the rest of the teams in the AFC South suck? The Colts rebuilt the entire team from scratch, two years ago. The rest of the teams just have to get better. 

Colts got extremely lucky they had Curtis Painter.  My MVP that year.

 

The Texans are probably a more complete team than the Colts, just not at the most important position on the field.  

 

Titans and Jags are just clowns.

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Colts got extremely lucky they had Curtis Painter.  My MVP that year.

 

The Texans are probably a more complete team than the Colts, just not at the most important position on the field.  

 

Titans and Jags are just clowns.

 

I disagree with you about the Texans being more complete than the Colts. You take JJ Watt off of that team and they're the Houston Jaguars.

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Is being in consistently one of the worse divisions in the league hurting the Colts?  The rest of the division isn't challenging enough so we don't have to rise up and find our full potential.  They are not exploiting our weaknesses so we don't know what needs fixed.  Everyone thought our run D had improved until the Pats came to town and showed us it was still weak.  I realize there are 16 games a season but that's 6 games a year that we only have to play a little bit above average to win.  Just look at the Jacksonville game.  

I may be wrong but its something to think about.

 

and to think that the NFC South leading team is 4-6. I beg to differ...

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Division games are never easy...you can rest assured that NO division game is a LOCK...not even the JAGS...as they had the Colts on the ropes on the first half + some. They could have won the game...they certainly were in a better position to make it happen for quite some time.

 

But hey..it's not front page news the AFC SOUTH stinks....

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I disagree with you about the Texans being more complete than the Colts. You take JJ Watt off of that team and they're the Houston Jaguars.

The Texans can run the ball and rush the passer and Clowney hasn't even played much yet.  Unfortunately for us, we can't take JJ Watt off of that team.  Take Luck off of the Colts and they're the Indianapolis Jaguars.

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The Texans can run the ball and rush the passer and Clowney hasn't even played much yet.  Unfortunately for us, we can't take JJ Watt off of that team.  Take Luck off of the Colts and they're the Indianapolis Jaguars.

You take Luck off, and you have Hasslebeck who's still better than any qb on the Texans. We have better personnel on both sides of the ball. The Colts can run the ball and rush the passer as well, it just hasn't been on a consistent basis. Our best player of defense hasn't played all season, and our starting running back also. 

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People think we have a good team just because we have a good qb. The same as when we had Peyton. These qbs cover up a lot of flaws. What was the record after Peyton left? What would be the record if luck left? Like 1 or 2 wins. So, yes. Our division is horrible. U add luck to any team in our division and give us their qb and they will have same record or better. Says a lot about Luck, and a lot less about us as a whole. Facts are facts...I'm a real fan. Not one of those fans with their heads in the clouds. How many wins does the next team have in this division again?? See, u can't get blinded with the fact we're winning. That means ur only in it for the regular season. When fans say we are weak, we are. Period. They don't mean weak in regular season...they are talking about being knocked off in the playoffs because of the flaws they see now. Are we supposed to just sweep the flaws under the rug and be satisfied? If that's the case then why not just be happy we squeaked by jax and make no moves? U happy with that? Well, if not, don't talk against fans that point out our weaknesses. They need to get addressed.

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People think we have a good team just because we have a good qb. The same as when we had Peyton. These qbs cover up a lot of flaws. What was the record after Peyton left? What would be the record if luck left? Like 1 or 2 wins. So, yes. Our division is horrible. U add luck to any team in our division and give us their qb and they will have same record or better. Says a lot about Luck, and a lot less about us as a whole. Facts are facts...I'm a real fan. Not one of those fans with their heads in the clouds. How many wins does the next team have in this division again?? See, u can't get blinded with the fact we're winning. That means ur only in it for the regular season. When fans say we are weak, we are. Period. They don't mean weak in regular season...they are talking about being knocked off in the playoffs because of the flaws they see now. Are we supposed to just sweep the flaws under the rug and be satisfied? If that's the case then why not just be happy we squeaked by jax and make no moves? U happy with that? Well, if not, don't talk against fans that point out our weaknesses. They need to get addressed.

Totally agree.  We have a horrible offensive line at this time, hopefully the young guys get better, but at this time it is horrible.  Nobody respects our run game, rightfully so, and that adds more pressure on Luck.  We are fortunate to have him, otherwise we are just as bad as the rest of this division.  The Pats & Steelers exposed many of the Colt's flaws and even Luck couldn't overcome that.  

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You take Luck off, and you have Hasslebeck who's still better than any qb on the Texans. We have better personnel on both sides of the ball. The Colts can run the ball and rush the passer as well, it just hasn't been on a consistent basis. Our best player of defense hasn't played all season, and our starting running back also. 

Hassleback wouldn't last a whole season behind this O-line.  Luck is a beast, but he can't keep taking the beating he is taking.  I am totally disgusted with the O-line and Griggs inability to improve it.     

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Hassleback wouldn't last a whole season behind this O-line.  Luck is a beast, but he can't keep taking the beating he is taking.  I am totally disgusted with the O-line and Griggs inability to improve it.     

Peyton wouldn't last and pretty much the majority of the qbs for that matter, behind this o-line. The line was actually decent for a little bit until Pagano benched AQ. And where the hell is Holmes?

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Peyton wouldn't last and pretty much the majority of the qbs for that matter, behind this o-line. The line was actually decent for a little bit until Pagano benched AQ. And where the hell is Holmes?

Great question, I have no idea.  It's like he doesn't even exist anymore.  If I was Irsay, I would be growing very tired of watching my franchise player get knocked around each week.  Griggs has had 3 years to fix this mess of an O-line and he has failed miserably.  

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That's crazy. The last team to make the playoffs with a sub .500 record was the Seahawks at 7-9, who hosted and beat the 11-5 Saints. Would be wild if the 6-10 Saints host the Seahawks.

 

Right now, the Falcons would host the Cowboys. That's stupid. I get having the division winner go to the playoffs, but I've always thought the team with the best record should host the game. Especially when there's a huge disparity in win totals...

Well, they only gotta score 3 extra points on the road to neutralize home field.  Shouldn't be that much to ask for a team with twice the wins as the home team. 

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Well technically the AFC South does suck.

 

Out of 12 years, a few rare Titans teams and a few Houston teams are the only thing that challenged the Colts from dominating.

 

I see where you're coming from and I agree. The division still is trash, but don't you love that? Don't you enjoy getting 3 easy wins a year in your dome from these horrible teams?

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Well, they only gotta score 3 extra points on the road to neutralize home field.  Shouldn't be that much to ask for a team with twice the wins as the home team. 

 

That's not really the point. Being the least bad team in your division shouldn't earn you a home playoff game, especially when there's another team that's won a lot more games than you have. 

 

Also, this 3 points for the home team thing is specific to gambling, and has nothing to do with actual football. 

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