Everything Trent Richardson [Merge]

[CR91]

this whole t-rich being the forum's whipping boy is getting old. I dont get what some of you are mad about. the first pick we traded turned out to be a primodonna benchwarmer

[Dustin]

We have to think of both T-Rich and Bradshaw as more or less receiving backs at this point.

Their rushing still leaves something to be desired but they can both make plays in the receiving game.

T Rich I remember turned a short dump off pass into like 23 yards.

Trichs rushing leaves something to be desired. Bradshaw runs fine.

[PeterBowman]

this whole t-rich being the forum's whipping boy is getting old. I dont get what some of you are mad about. the first pick we traded turned out to be a primodonna benchwarmer

that and yes he was a 3rd pick in the draft (by Cleveland)...the Colts gave up an end of the first round pick for him...and so far he's actually surpassed anything Donald Brown (who was chosen only a few spots back from the pick the Colts gave up for T-Rich) in his first couple years with the team and is getting better.

[ProblChld32]

Im happy with the production out of both Richardson and Bradshaw i just hope he continues to build off of this. 

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

Here's one example:

You arguing that Holmes would be the best guard on the Colts roster because he played it in HS and 1 year of college.

Thats a fact. I feel like Khaled Holmes is the best athlete we have on the oline. He wasn't just a guard in hs. He was recruited to a top 10 University to play guard. And once there he was an all american level talent @ guard. He moved to center because he was athletic enough to do it and they needed him to. Guard is his natural position. Mater Dei isnt just any hs, its one of the best programs in the nation and probably the best in southern cal.

I do think Holmes would be a better guard than Thorton and his backup. My theory is that mewhort can be the RT of the future. I believe this, and if Shipley continues to play @ this level, and Gosder continues to decline, we shall see how right I am

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

Sure.... you know football. A touchdown gives you 6 points + the xtra point and you have 7. A field goal gives you 3 and a safety 2.

But you're young and filled with anger and rage. You want people fired for not doing what you want when you want. You freely admit it.

So, you don't get that Trent, while not worth a 1st round pick can still be a valuable addition. Bradshaw can't stay healthy enough to be the lead dog, and you don't know enough about Herron to know if he can do it game in and game out. You just think you know. But, you hate Trent so you want anyone other than Trent. That simply makes you a fan.

You want Grigson and Pagano fired. You freely say so. You have no idea -- none -- how hard it is to win in the NFL. The most difficult and most competitive sports league. You and a few other posters think we're winning simply because we have Andrew Luck. Yes, without him we wouldn't be 500. But you give no credit -- none -- for the team assembled around him.

We went from 2-14 to 11-5 in the first year of Grigson/Pagano and we only had $80 million to spend. We had $40 mill in dead cap money. And still went 11-5. That's much more than Andrew Luck. And no one here is a bigger Luck fan than I am. Heck, I'm here every day because of Luck. But even I can recognize that Grigson has put solid players around Luck. And Pagano and his staff coach them up. They coach the heck out of them.

We led the league last year in fewest turnovers. I think we were among the league leaders in fewest penalties. We don't have a lot of name players, or sexy players. But our guys plays hard most every week. And I never take that for granted.

Do I love every move by Grigson? No. But I'm a fan sitting 1,800 miles away. I don't know what Grigson knows. I give him the benefit of the doubt every time he does something that I question. Like signing Landry. Or trading a #1 for TRich.

But I always look forward to watching the Colts. We play hard and we typically play smart. As a fan, I can't ask for more than that.

You're just way, way too angry and it makes you fly off the handle. You seem incapable of just enjoying your favorite team. You want coaches fired and players cut because you're not happy with something. Sorry, but that just makes you a fan. Hey, we're ALL fans here, I get that. But most of us can enjoy a win and understand a loss. But not you. Someone always has to get cut or fired when you're not happy. And you seem to be not happy most of the time. So, that makes you a fan who doesn't understand football.

ADD: Moderators please note this post was not intended as an attack on 1-yard, but rather an explanation of why I think he doesn't know football the way he thinks he knows football. I tried to make the post analytical and not a personal attack. I hope this is taken into consideration. Thanks....

Yes, hes put good WRs around Luck. But for 2 yrs he gave him no run gm and a suspect oline. And an avg defense. Its like the great Brad Wells says, what separates Pagano from Dennos Allen? Andrew Luck. Luck(tge player) in the AFC south is the reason for this turnaround. Moreso than the coach or gm. We are Lucky to play in a crap division with a top 10 qb that has moments when he plays like a top 3 qb. Usually vs the division.

I don't consider myself angry at all, I just don't understand getting excited about some guy who is obviously not a good rb leading the team in yrds. Trent Richardson is a better lass catcher than he is a rb. If u want to get the best out of him, make him a 3rd down back and limit his carries. I don't think he should ever have over 12 carries. Unless its in a blowout and it cant hurt.

And I hope we can draft Ameer Abdullah to be our rb for the future.

[HtownColt]

No he doesn't. Trent didn't run a 4.4 at Alabama.

And he's much slower now than he was then.

Speed is not an asset for him. I wish it was, but it isn't.

He ran 4.48 while at Alabama, but straight line speed and football speed are two different things

[NewColtsFan]

He ran 4.48 while at Alabama, but straight line speed and football speed are two different things

 

His 4.48 at Alabama was hand-timed.

 

Not the same as what they time at the combine which is done fully electronically.

 

Most everyone's pro-day 40 is faster than their combine 40 because it's hand-timed.

 

And he certainly isn't as fast as he was when he was at Alabama.

[Coffeedrinker]

Thats a fact. I feel like Khaled Holmes is the best athlete we have on the oline. He wasn't just a guard in hs. He was recruited to a top 10 University to play guard. And once there he was an all american level talent @ guard. He moved to center because he was athletic enough to do it and they needed him to. Guard is his natural position. Mater Dei isnt just any hs, its one of the best programs in the nation and probably the best in southern cal.

I do think Holmes would be a better guard than Thorton and his backup. My theory is that mewhort can be the RT of the future. I believe this, and if Shipley continues to play @ this level, and Gosder continues to decline, we shall see how right I am

You are a funny poster. 

 

Where he went to HS has no bearing on his NFL career or position.  He played one year of guard at USC... one year.  Additionally he was not an All-American level. 

 

But it doesn't matter and I'm not going to bad mouth Holmes because I like him and I think he will be a big part of the Colts for years.  You wanted one example, I gave you two.  

[Dr. Guildo]

 You are just lying to yourself.

 

 

That there is some strong terminology & it shows me the type of person you are going forward. You are not interested in fact or numbers but arguing. Fail.

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

You are a funny poster.

Where he went to HS has no bearing on his NFL career or position. He played one year of guard at USC... one year. Additionally he was not an All-American level.

But it doesn't matter and I'm not going to bad mouth Holmes because I like him and I think he will be a big part of the Colts for years. You wanted one example, I gave you two.

Holmes was considered one of the best guards in the conference and seen as a player on the rise. And he played guard last yr and looked good. He can play guard, I dont even understand why you would argue that.

[NewColtsFan]

Yes, hes put good WRs around Luck. But for 2 yrs he gave him no run gm and a suspect oline. And an avg defense. Its like the great Brad Wells says, what separates Pagano from Dennos Allen? Andrew Luck. Luck(tge player) in the AFC south is the reason for this turnaround. Moreso than the coach or gm. We are Lucky to play in a crap division with a top 10 qb that has moments when he plays like a top 3 qb. Usually vs the division.

I don't consider myself angry at all, I just don't understand getting excited about some guy who is obviously not a good rb leading the team in yrds. Trent Richardson is a better lass catcher than he is a rb. If u want to get the best out of him, make him a 3rd down back and limit his carries. I don't think he should ever have over 12 carries. Unless its in a blowout and it cant hurt.

And I hope we can draft Ameer Abdullah to be our rb for the future.

 

See?   There you go!    An $80 million dollar payroll.   $40 million Grigson couldn't spend his first year.   And it simply doesn't register even after I wrote about it in my post.    The man had ONE-THIRD less payroll to spend his first year.

 

2nd year,  he spent heavily on the line (Cherilous and Thomas) and drafted heavily (Thornton and Holmes)...  that's FOUR priority assets that Grigson spent to beef things up.    It's not like the guy was asleep at the wheel.   Some moves worked out,  some didn't.     That happens in the NFL on every team in the NFL.    Not everything works out.   But good teams find a way to win and that's what the Colts have done.

 

This year,  the line is better and so is the defense.    Not as much as anyone would like,  but they are better.

 

These things take time.    2011 we were 2-14.    2012 we were 11-5 and you admit you wanted people fired!     One great year in their first year wasn't enough for you.    You wanted heads to roll.   Scalps as trophy's.    Holy cow?!?!? 

 

That goes to my point that you can't enjoy a great first year!     You should've been dancing in the streets and yet you were so unhappy.     Things got better last year and you were STILL unhappy.

 

We win big the last two weeks and you're only posts are to caution that the two teams we played -- sucked.    Which is true and fair.    Except you don't write positive posts to off-set that.    There's very little to nothing written by you that shows any pleasure as a fan.     I often try to tamp down overly enthusiastic fans with posts reminding that our opponent wasn't very good.    But I try to off-set that by posting about things the Colts did well that all of us should be happy about.

 

I don't mind negative posts.   But the occasional positive post would go a long way toward gaining some credibility.   If all you ever write (or mostly write) is negative when the team is doing well,   then your credibility is going to take a huge hit.   And that's what you're dealing with.

 

Have fun!    We're all in this together!    We've got a good play-off caliber team!     Enjoy the ride!!!     

[NewColtsFan]

Yes, hes put good WRs around Luck. But for 2 yrs he gave him no run gm and a suspect oline. And an avg defense. Its like the great Brad Wells says, what separates Pagano from Dennos Allen? Andrew Luck. Luck(tge player) in the AFC south is the reason for this turnaround. Moreso than the coach or gm. We are Lucky to play in a crap division with a top 10 qb that has moments when he plays like a top 3 qb. Usually vs the division.

I don't consider myself angry at all, I just don't understand getting excited about some guy who is obviously not a good rb leading the team in yrds. Trent Richardson is a better lass catcher than he is a rb. If u want to get the best out of him, make him a 3rd down back and limit his carries. I don't think he should ever have over 12 carries. Unless its in a blowout and it cant hurt.

And I hope we can draft Ameer Abdullah to be our rb for the future.

 

Apologies.....   two other thoughts....   

 

Ahhh.......   about Brad Wells....    I hate to state the incredibly obvious....    but the difference between McKenzie/Allen in Oakland and Grigson/Pagano in Indy is so, so much more than just Andrew Luck.    It's night and day.    Which is why Allen is fired and McKenzie may get fired at the end of the year.    Grigson has been exec of the year and Pagano is winning and respected.

 

Plus, I wouldn't count on spending a high pick on Abdullah.   We've got so many draft picks invested in offense,  that I think we're going to spend our 2015 picks on defense.    At least,  that's my hope.    But many of my draft predictions for the Colts in 2014 were off,  so what do I know? 

 

But a RB with a high pick doesn't strike me as a high probability.....    (just thinking out loud on this one....)

[TheJACKCOLT]

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/you-can-now-make-the-argument-that-trent-richardson-is-the-second-worst-running-back-ever/

He had 24 more touches than Bradshaw and 9 more yards. That is absolute pathetic. Think about it, those 24 more touches produced 9 YARDS. That's really producing, he also has the highest dropped pass, percentage on the team at 14.3% and leads the team in fumbles with two. People on this board actually call him productive, any back-up running back in this league would produce more yards than Richarson. I hope at some point the powers to be will stop this crap. Give some of his carries to Herron, Bradshaw or Tipton, anybody but the sloth, and this teams production will soar. Yes he definitely is "holding this offense back"

Bradshaw- 34 carries for 182 yds and a 5.4 yds per carry 0 fumbles-14 receptions for 134 yds and 1 drop 6.58 per touch

Richardson-61 carries for 203yds and a 3.32 tds per carry 2 fumbles-11 receptions for 122 yds and 2 drops 4.51 per touch

Bradshaws rushing average alone is nearly a yard higher than Richardsons, rushing and receiving average combined. He may be the only back in the league, that could produce so little with so many attempts.

[TheJACKCOLT]

He had 24 more touches than Bradshaw and 9 more yards. That is absolute pathetic. Think about it, those 24 more touches produced 9 YARDS. That's really producing, he also has the highest dropped pass, percentage on the team at 14.3% and leads the team in fumbles with two. People on this board actually call him productive, any back-up running back in this league would produce more yards than Richarson. I hope at some point the powers to be will stop this crap. Give some of his carries to Herron, Bradshaw or Tipton, anybody but the sloth, and this teams production will soar. Yes he definitely is "holding this offense back"

Bradshaw- 34 carries for 182 yds and a 5.4 yds per carry 0 fumbles-14 receptions for 134 yds and 1 drop 6.58 per touch

Richardson-61 carries for 203yds and a 3.32 tds per carry 2 fumbles-11 receptions for 122 yds and 2 drops 4.51 per touch

Bradshaws rushing average alone is nearly a yard higher than Richardsons, rushing and receiving average combined. He may be the only back in the league, that could produce so little with so many attempts

[SubZero]

That there is some strong terminology & it shows me the type of person you are going forward. You are not interested in fact or numbers but arguing. Fail.

Richardsons career average is 3.07 yards per carry. His best game as a Colt he rushed for 79 yards (he also fumbled in that game twice). It took him eight weeks to get a run over 8 yards. Richardson is tied for the most fumbles this year of any running back, the Colts offense averages 4 yards with him on the field. While averaging 6 with him off. Since last year he is averaging a 24.9 yards per game. He also averages the lowest yards after contact (rushing wise).

You can comfortably sit there and say you like these stats you see? You don't think he should be putting out more numbers? These numbers (last year and this year) are worse than Knownshon Moreno, CJ Spiller, Ryan Mathews, and Donald Brown, which by the way are all 4 considered draft busts. Im saying your lying to yourself because you don't want to admit he has been disappointing since the trade. Yes he can pass block and catch but he is missing the biggest component of being a running back, and thats running. When you spend a first round pick on a running back i don't think its outrageous to want him to be a good runner. I have not seen you post any facts for stats that support your side of this conversation so i would said fail.

[TheJACKCOLT]

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/you-can-now-make-the-argument-that-trent-richardson-is-the-second-worst-running-back-ever/

This article says it all, what a productive back we have in "the sloth"

[rockywoj]

Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost.  History.  Yesterday's news.

 

Richardson is contributing.  Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on.  Other carries, he should do better.  Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.

 

So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant.  What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.

[Superman]

Since this has now transformed into a(nother) "Bash Trent Richardson" thread, it's being merged.

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/you-can-now-make-the-argument-that-trent-richardson-is-the-second-worst-running-back-ever/

This article says it all, what a productive back we have in "the sloth"

I wouldn't even go this far. I think he's a good enough blocker and pass catcher that he has value as a role player. My only issue is he's not worth his salary and he shouldn't be starting or getting 20rushing attempts. And its obvious he was not worth a 1st rnd pick. It was fumb to pick him 3, even dumber to trade a 1 for him.

[tfunky14]

See?   There you go!    An $80 million dollar payroll.   $40 million Grigson couldn't spend his first year.   And it simply doesn't register even after I wrote about it in my post.    The man had ONE-THIRD less payroll to spend his first year.

 

2nd year,  he spent heavily on the line (Cherilous and Thomas) and drafted heavily (Thornton and Holmes)...  that's FOUR priority assets that Grigson spent to beef things up.    It's not like the guy was asleep at the wheel.   Some moves worked out,  some didn't.     That happens in the NFL on every team in the NFL.    Not everything works out.   But good teams find a way to win and that's what the Colts have done.

 

This year,  the line is better and so is the defense.    Not as much as anyone would like,  but they are better.

 

These things take time.    2011 we were 2-14.    2012 we were 11-5 and you admit you wanted people fired!     One great year in their first year wasn't enough for you.    You wanted heads to roll.   Scalps as trophy's.    Holy cow?!?!? 

 

That goes to my point that you can't enjoy a great first year!     You should've been dancing in the streets and yet you were so unhappy.     Things got better last year and you were STILL unhappy.

 

We win big the last two weeks and you're only posts are to caution that the two teams we played -- sucked.    Which is true and fair.    Except you don't write positive posts to off-set that.    There's very little to nothing written by you that shows any pleasure as a fan.     I often try to tamp down overly enthusiastic fans with posts reminding that our opponent wasn't very good.    But I try to off-set that by posting about things the Colts did well that all of us should be happy about.

 

I don't mind negative posts.   But the occasional positive post would go a long way toward gaining some credibility.   If all you ever write (or mostly write) is negative when the team is doing well,   then your credibility is going to take a huge hit.   And that's what you're dealing with.

 

Have fun!    We're all in this together!    We've got a good play-off caliber team!     Enjoy the ride!!!     

It's okay,,, there are a bunch of Fanatics in here that think they know it all...I agree with ya..

[tfunky14]

Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost.  History.  Yesterday's news.

 

Richardson is contributing.  Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on.  Other carries, he should do better.  Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.

 

So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant.  What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.

[Blueblazes]

He had 24 more touches than Bradshaw and 9 more yards. That is absolute pathetic. Think about it, those 24 more touches produced 9 YARDS. That's really producing, he also has the highest dropped pass, percentage on the team at 14.3% and leads the team in fumbles with two. People on this board actually call him productive, any back-up running back in this league would produce more yards than Richarson. I hope at some point the powers to be will stop this crap. Give some of his carries to Herron, Bradshaw or Tipton, anybody but the sloth, and this teams production will soar. Yes he definitely is "holding this offense back"

Bradshaw- 34 carries for 182 yds and a 5.4 yds per carry 0 fumbles-14 receptions for 134 yds and 1 drop 6.58 per touch

Richardson-61 carries for 203yds and a 3.32 tds per carry 2 fumbles-11 receptions for 122 yds and 2 drops 4.51 per touch

Bradshaws rushing average alone is nearly a yard higher than Richardsons, rushing and receiving average combined. He may be the only back in the league, that could produce so little with so many attempts

 

Please do not use facts to support an argument. 

[a06cc]

No he doesn't. Trent didn't run a 4.4 at Alabama.

And he's much slower now than he was then.

Speed is not an asset for him. I wish it was, but it isn't.

Yes he does run a 4.45 forty time. There is a thing call google. Look it up

[Blueblazes]

Richardsons career average is 3.07 yards per carry. His best game as a Colt he rushed for 79 yards (he also fumbled in that game twice). It took him eight weeks to get a run over 8 yards. Richardson is tied for the most fumbles this year of any running back, the Colts offense averages 4 yards with him on the field. While averaging 6 with him off. Since last year he is averaging a 24.9 yards per game. He also averages the lowest yards after contact (rushing wise).

You can comfortably sit there and say you like these stats you see? You don't think he should be putting out more numbers? These numbers (last year and this year) are worse than Knownshon Moreno, CJ Spiller, Ryan Mathews, and Donald Brown, which by the way are all 4 considered draft busts. Im saying your lying to yourself because you don't want to admit he has been disappointing since the trade. Yes he can pass block and catch but he is missing the biggest component of being a running back, and thats running. When you spend a first round pick on a running back i don't think its outrageous to want him to be a good runner. I have not seen you post any facts for stats that support your side of this conversation so i would said fail.

 

Omg, and you are using facts to suport your argument, too. 

[Blueblazes]

I really want Trent to do well and hoping he does very soon. But right now, I can not say 3.3 ypc is reliable when all other RBs get 2.5 yards more per carry. And that's the story for his previous seasons as well, even with the Browns. The other RBs averaged nice yards per carry. I would like to say he is reliable, but 3 fumbles his last 5 games translates to 9-10 for a season...not good. I'll say he contributes in blocking and receiving to a degree. But really, c'mon TRich, make all of us eat our words and at least get the average yards your teammates do and hold onto the ball. Please make us all eat our words. 

[a06cc]

He'll have a great next 4 games.

[TheJACKCOLT]

Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost.  History.  Yesterday's news.

 

Richardson is contributing.  Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on.  Other carries, he should do better.  Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.

 

So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant.  What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.

[NewColtsFan]

Yes he does run a 4.45 forty time. There is a thing call google. Look it up

 

As I noted in another post which you may not have seen.

 

Any time Trent has that's sub 4.5,  it was hand timed,  not fully electronic.

 

And there's a big difference between the two.

 

He might've run that fast once upon a time a long, long time ago.       But recently?    Not a chance.

[TheJACKCOLT]

Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost.  History.  Yesterday's news.

 

Richardson is contributing.  Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on.  Other carries, he should do better.  Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.

 

So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant.  What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.

I too, don't care where he was drafted or what we gave up to get him. My problem is how bad he is. Leading the team in yards from scrimmage by 9 yards when you have had 24 more touches than the next guy is pathetic. The only thing he is contributing to is number of touches. I believe without a doubt that Herron, Tipton or Bradshaw could do more with these touches. That's my point

He's not helping this team by getting the most touches, and like I said, I don't care where he was drafted, what we traded or any of that, it's the fact that he gets that majority of touches, when a undrafted free agent could get more, are you really pleased with his production? He's a situational player not a #1 back that should get the most touches.

[TheJACKCOLT]

As I noted in another post which you may not have seen.

 

Any time Trent has that's sub 4.5,  it was hand timed,  not fully electronic.

 

And there's a big difference between the two.

 

He might've run that fast once upon a time a long, long time ago.       But recently?    Not a chance.

I doubt he ever ran a 4.5 forty, but if he did in 2011, that was good for 2011. He definitely doesn't run a 4.5 in 2014.

[ruksak]

If we hadn't traded for Trent, maybe we could've gotten another Bjorn Werner to dominate our opponents by falling harmlessly to the ground while mumbling obscure German curse words. 

[jvan1973]

As I noted in another post which you may not have seen.

Any time Trent has that's sub 4.5, it was hand timed, not fully electronic.

And there's a big difference between the two.

He might've run that fast once upon a time a long, long time ago. But recently? Not a chance.

His pro day was in 2012 not 1987. I doubt his 40 is slower two years later

[TheJACKCOLT]

Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost.  History.  Yesterday's news.

 

Richardson is contributing.  Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on.  Other carries, he should do better.  Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.

 

So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant.  What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.

 

 

Giving up a first, a first pick (that ended up being used by the Eagles for OLB Marcus Smith) that so far is a nobody contributing a lot less (nothing?) than Richardson is, is a sunk cost.  History.  Yesterday's news.

 

Richardson is contributing.  Sure we'd love to see his average a yard or so better, but to be fair, as was the case last year, a lot of his carries he really has no chance on.  Other carries, he should do better.  Like a different poster pointed out, though, Richardson is not the only "name" back with less than desirable average per carry numbers.

 

So, for ME, I don't care where he was drafted or what draft pick we gave up for him, as THAT is now irrelevant.  What matters is that he reliably contributes on the field and to me, that he is doing, as revealed by his top spot in all-purpose yards, the premise of this (now moved / merged) thread.

[ruksak]

JACKCOLT, I hear Indiana University is now enrolling people in their exclusive "How to post" classes. 

[ruksak]

His pro day was in 2012 not 1987. I doubt his 40 is slower two years later

Trent clearly has progeria. You didn't know? 

[NewColtsFan]

His pro day was in 2012 not 1987. I doubt his 40 is slower two years later

 

You've watched Trent for a year now.

 

You've watched football for plenty of years.

 

Are you seriously going to tell me you think Trent Richardson is capable of running a sub 4.5 forty yard dash now?

 

Seriously?

[SubZero]

Omg, and you are using facts to suport your argument, too.

Oh why yes I am.

Honestly i hope he does good later on and makes me regret ever doubting him.

[jvan1973]

You've watched Trent for a year now.

You've watched football for plenty of years.

Are you seriously going to tell me you think Trent Richardson is capable of running a sub 4.5 forty yard dash now?

Seriously?

Have you watched him run on a track, without pads in perfect conditions without anyone trying to tackle him? Because i haven't. The forty is pretty meaningless on gameday

[TheJACKCOLT]

Believe me I want to see Trent do great, I'm a Colts fan. I want him to be the best back in the league, but the facts are he is one of (if not the) the worst backs in the league. Having 9 yards more than the next guy on the team when you have had 24 more touches, is not producing, it's pathetic. I"m not even saying he should never play, he is good pass blocking, but he is a situational player, not a #1 back. Why would you give him the majority of your touches, when you have three other guys who could get you more.

 

it's not about where he was drafted or what was traded for him, it's about his pathetic production, he's at his best a poor #2 back, or a decent #3 back.
It is amazing that anybody could be happy with his production. The Colts have went out of their way to try to make this work, but at some point you have to face the facts. Richarson is not very good and other guys on the team could produce more with his touches. You wouldn't give Whalen the majority of your pass attempts, so why give Richardson the majority of the touches.

 

How can you be happy with Richardsons production, when you have backs that could you get you more, it makes no sense. Bring him in the game, in situations where he can help the team. Just don't make him the #1 back and give him the most touches, when anybody else could get you more. All the Trent lovers better hope that Herron or Tipton don't get any primetime touches, because then it will be very hard to justify Trents playing time. I will gladly it crow if Trent becomes an average back, cause like I said,  I'm a Colts fan and I want what's best for the team. I just don't see anything that points to Trent being what's best for this team. I've never wanted to be more wrong in my life, but I've seen enough and I hope the Colts are at least considering giving Herron or Tipton a chance to see what they can do.