We are #2 in the league for scoring

[krunk]

I had to edit this after I posed because after I looked closer we are actually #3 in scoring

and #2 for touchdowns.  I didn't realize it was different at first.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=TOUCHDOWNS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2014&seasonType=REG

 

 

#3 for total offense and #4 for passing. #14 for Rushing offense

 

 

Defense needs some work, but I expect the numbers to get better in the next couple of weeks.

 

#17 against the run

#28 against the pass

#29 overall for total defense

[ReMeDy]

Morale of the story: Let Luck throw it constantly. Trent Richardson is now an o-lineman who plays in the backfield.

[chad72]

Games against Ds like Denver, Eagles, Jaguars can help pile up the stat sheet, IMO.

 

I would be more happy to hit 27 pts vs the Bengals than the Eagles or Jaguars or Broncos because that Bengals D is legit. Hopefully health is in our favor when that game comes around.

[Tor]

It's weird having a defensive minded head coach and seeing how the Colts have the 3rd best total offense and 29th in total defense. I know it's still early in the season but still...

[fvantagio]

Morale of the story: Let Luck throw it constantly. Trent Richardson is now an o-lineman who plays in the backfield.

Yes...Because im sure it has nothing to do with the 122 ypg rushing they are currently averaging.

[bestQBever]

Morale of the story: Let Luck throw it constantly. Trent Richardson is now an o-lineman who plays in the backfield.

don't know what story you were reading but the only game we Let Luck throw constantly, we fell behind and had to comeback to lose. This game vs the jags is the EXACT balance i think the colts need. It literally couldn't have been better pass attempts/ rush attempts wise. T rich has looked better these last 2 games than he has in any other games in his tenure here.

[GoColts8818]

But Pep is a horrible OC. This is clearly a mistake...

[mycou1992]

A mistake, i am sure

[ColtsBlueFL]

It's weird having a defensive minded head coach and seeing how the Colts have the 3rd best total offense and 29th in total defense. I know it's still early in the season but still...

 

Hmmmmm, not weird for me.  I distinctly remember Tony Dungy (most certainly a defensive minded HC) and our offense with Tom Moore and Peyton Manning.  And at times our D was in the lower half of the league.  In fact, the year we won the Super Bowl, our run defense historically bad.  Especially run D during the season.  We gave up 173 yds per game, and 5.3 yards per attempt.

 

http://pick256.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/the-worst-defense-to-ever-win-a-super-bowl-the-2006-colts/

 

Seems same thing, only different to me.  (Big slow guys vs. the old regime's small fast guys.)

[ProblChld32]

These are refreshing stats man... lets hope we can keep it up! 

[ColtStronger]

Our defense is ranked so high because we played Denver and Philidelphia the first 2 games.  I don't see many teams scoring like that on us.  On the other side of the table we demolished Jax cause they're one of the worst teams in the league.  I fully expected the Colt's to win that a large margin  I said 34-10 but it was even more lopsided.  I knew the Colt's D would give up 30+ to DEN and PHI but you will notice those numbers drop since the only great offenses.  At season's end Colts offense will be top 3 and the defense will be in the top 15 for points and yds given up and perhaps top 10 in TO's forced.

[CroatianColtsFan21]

...

 

Defense needs some work, but I expect the numbers to get better in the next couple of weeks.

 

#17 against the run

#28 against the pass

#29 overall for total defense

 

it's all about stopping the run, as pagano keeps telling us.. 

[CroatianColtsFan21]

Hmmmmm, not weird for me.  I distinctly remember Tony Dungy (most certainly a defensive minded HC) and our offense with Tom Moore and Peyton Manning.  And at times our D was in the lower half of the league.  In fact, the year we won the Super Bowl, our run defense historically bad.  Especially run D during the season.  We gave up 173 yds per game, and 5.3 yards per attempt.

 

http://pick256.wordpress.com/2012/01/31/the-worst-defense-to-ever-win-a-super-bowl-the-2006-colts/

 

Seems same thing, only different to me.  (Big slow guys vs. the old regime's small fast guys.)

 

that's why we are stopping the run now, but stink at pass defense.. i know i'm oversimplifying it, but looks like which ever direction colts' defense goes (big guys, small guys, 3-4, 4-3) doesn't matter, the D still stinks..

[jskinnz]

I had to edit this after I posed because after I looked closer we are actually #3 in scoring

and #2 for touchdowns.  I didn't realize it was different at first.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=TOUCHDOWNS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2014&seasonType=REG

 

 

#3 for total offense and #4 for passing. #14 for Rushing offense

 

 

Defense needs some work, but I expect the numbers to get better in the next couple of weeks.

 

#17 against the run

#28 against the pass

#29 overall for total defense

 

Defensive stats are not surprising given the week 1 & 2 opponents.  They were always going to be ranked low with the way Denver and Philly put up yards and points.

 

I guess offensive stats are not too surprising either when you put up 44 points and over 500 yards against the Jags. 

 

There were plenty of encouraging things against the Jags with the best thing to me being diversified in not only the run and pass but how many different players got on the stat sheet. 

 

People like to bang on Pep, I think unfairly in most instances but to me he got better last year and is also evolving this year.  The offense will be fine.

[Kyle]

 

Seems same thing, only different to me.  (Big slow guys vs. the old regime's small fast guys.)

Now if we could only get a few big and fast guys.

[ColtStronger]

Now if we could only get a few big and fast guys.

I think our big guys are somewhat fast for their size.  Art Jones and Zach Kerr both move very well, and I've saw Kerr chase down people outside the numbers before.  I haven't heard much from Chapman this season.  IDK if he is injured or if Kerr is just better, but I am impressed with the guy so far.  Just because were giving up a lot of yds and pts. the first 3 weeks shows no indication how the rest of the season will play out.  Especially when the stats are skewed from toughest offenses to such a weak offense in Jax.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

that's why we are stopping the run now, but stink at pass defense.. i know i'm oversimplifying it, but looks like which ever direction colts' defense goes (big guys, small guys, 3-4, 4-3) doesn't matter, the D still stinks..

 

Pass D is a little inflated due to bad LB pass coverage. Secondary is actually pretty solid I think, especially the corners, who already have 3 picks between the 2 of them. The Colts also played 2 high-flying offenses to start the season, so that has to be factored in.

[SkyBane]

that's why we are stopping the run now, but stink at pass defense.. i know i'm oversimplifying it, but looks like which ever direction colts' defense goes (big guys, small guys, 3-4, 4-3) doesn't matter, the D still stinks..

Eh, if you REALLY want to dig in to it, historically speaking, the Colts in the entire history of the franchise have never had a good enough defense to rely on, and even in eras where the run was king, were QB and pass reliant. It's just in the DNA of the team to win by outscoring.

[CroatianColtsFan21]

Pass D is a little inflated due to bad LB pass coverage. Secondary is actually pretty solid I think, especially the corners, who already have 3 picks between the 2 of them. The Colts also played 2 high-flying offenses to start the season, so that has to be factored in.

Agree, corners have been playing great, safeties bad, lb's not good and d-line ok.. sum that up and you get a stinky pass defense..

Oh, and besides those 2 high flying ofenses they also played the jags, and there's where 2 out of 3 int's come from, so the average numbers are telling the truth, imo...

[#12]

We are #2 in the league for scoring

 

 

Defense needs some work,

#29 overall for total defense

 

Might as well just sticky this.  Same story since 1998. 

 

That said, face reality and realize how you're going to win games going forward. 

[yakimacanutt]

I had to edit this after I posed because after I looked closer we are actually #3 in scoring

and #2 for touchdowns.  I didn't realize it was different at first.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=TOUCHDOWNS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2014&seasonType=REG

 

 

#3 for total offense and #4 for passing. #14 for Rushing offense

 

 

Defense needs some work, but I expect the numbers to get better in the next couple of weeks.

 

#17 against the run

#28 against the pass

#29 overall for total defense

 

I had to edit this after I posed because after I looked closer we are actually #3 in scoring

and #2 for touchdowns.  I didn't realize it was different at first.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=TOUCHDOWNS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2014&seasonType=REG

 

 

#3 for total offense and #4 for passing. #14 for Rushing offense

 

 

Defense needs some work, but I expect the numbers to get better in the next couple of weeks.

 

#17 against the run

#28 against the pass

#29 overall for total defense

I think that being 26th in scoring defense and 29th in total yardage after playing a cupcake like the Jags should be a major concern. Those gaudy offensive numbers are also inflated by the blowout a bit. I am hoping for the best here but that kind of defensive showing just won't get the job done. So what happens when we meet a great defense like the Texans? There will be less scoring. The Colts can still win but if the defense gives up 25 to 30 against Houston, it isn't likely. We got four sacks against the Jags. I think the Giants got ten the week before. The pressure almost all game from the blitz. We won't be winning 11 or 12 games if this doesn't improve.

[yakimacanutt]

Morale of the story: Let Luck throw it constantly. Trent Richardson is now an o-lineman who plays in the backfield.

Peter King has some interesting comments about Richardson on his Tuesday mailbag column on SI.

[MTC]

Our defense was pretty bad when Bortles went in the game. I mean besides the corners, Redding, Kerr, and Walden, no one played well.

29th ranked defense sounds right.

[chad72]

that's why we are stopping the run now, but stink at pass defense.. i know i'm oversimplifying it, but looks like which ever direction colts' defense goes (big guys, small guys, 3-4, 4-3) doesn't matter, the D still stinks..

 

We need some playmakers in the front 7 that can push the pocket from the DL point of view and rush the passer from the OLB position. Everything else becomes a ripple effect once we accomplish those, IMO, on D.

[CroatianColtsFan21]

We need some playmakers in the front 7 that can push the pocket from the DL point of view and rush the passer from the OLB position. Everything else becomes a ripple effect once we accomplish those, IMO, on D.

Then this year is yet another wasted oportunity by the grigs-pagano combo to improve the D.. safeties got even worse, olb's without mathis and now art jones got injured... yikes..

[Valpo2004]

I had to edit this after I posed because after I looked closer we are actually #3 in scoring

and #2 for touchdowns.  I didn't realize it was different at first.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=TOUCHDOWNS&conference=ALL&role=TM&season=2014&seasonType=REG

 

 

#3 for total offense and #4 for passing. #14 for Rushing offense

 

 

Defense needs some work, but I expect the numbers to get better in the next couple of weeks.

 

#17 against the run

#28 against the pass

#29 overall for total defense

 

Defensive numbers should get better due to facing 2 of the top offenses in the league in the first 2 games.

 

However our offensive numbers may drop a bit (but not as much) because playing Jacksonville does improve our average.

 

BTW just want to mention a win over the Titans along with a loss by the Texans puts us as tied for first (with the Texans) in the AFC south.  

[chad72]

Then this year is yet another wasted oportunity by the grigs-pagano combo to improve the D.. safeties got even worse, olb's without mathis and now art jones got injured... yikes..

 

We have to get creative with our pass rush, I am yet to see that happen consistently.

 

So what if we have to blitz more often. Unless we are playing a Peyton or Brady, I think we can force bad decisions from QBs in our division and outside, IMO, by manufacturing more pressure from creative blitzes.

[Solon]

Our numbers on D would've been better if Blake Bortles didn't come in the game. 

[Valpo2004]

Our defense was pretty bad when Bortles went in the game. I mean besides the corners, Redding, Kerr, and Walden, no one played well.

29th ranked defense sounds right.

 

Defense came up with 2 picks I believe with Bortles in the game.  They didn't do horrible.  And I believe they brought in some 2nd string guys towards the end there which probably helped lead to a garbage time TD.

 

Really hard to judge a defense or a team period that's up by that many points.  

 

Not saying Indy's got a great defense or anything.  But I don't think you are being completely fair.  First of all you are ignoring the turnovers.  Secondly it's hard to judge a team that's playing with that big of a lead.  Offense only put 1 more TD on the board after halftime. . .  The other TD was put up by the defense.  

 

Now granted Bortles did help their team and he's the better QB, he made plays that Chad Henne just can't make and I would say it would be a huge mistake for the Jags to revert to Henne IF they want to win.

[ColtsBlueFL]

Now if we could only get a few big and fast guys.

Bill Polian said you can only get that type of guy drafting in the top 10 or sometimes 15 slots. I dont think we want to endure a record that get's us a 1 of those every year. Let's stay with this and get or develop some true pass rush guys to make it easier for the DB's....

[methodicaleddie]

But Pep is a horrible OC. This is clearly a mistake...

 

It's only week 3 and we played against the Jags and had to come back from behind against the Broncos.  He isn't a good OC.  Play calling in the 4th quarter against the Eagles was horrible.  We should have won that game if we were more aggressive.  I'm not going to blame the loss on the missed PI and botched horse collar tackle penalty.  Running the ball twice inside the 20 with 4 minutes to go versus the explosive Eagles was a mistake.  Put the ball in Luck's hands, score a TD there and we win the game.

[Kyle]

Bill Polian said........

that's as far as I got and stopped reading.  Polian is an *.

[ColtsBlueFL]

that's as far as I got and stopped reading.  Polian is an *.

A smart one too. Better than a dumb one.

So the 2006 SB trophy doesn't count for you then. Bill says it's OK, he doesn't recognize your SB trophy with you as a GM either...

[akcolt]

Bill Polian said you can only get that type of guy drafting in the top 10 or sometimes 15 slots. I dont think we want to endure a record that get's us a 1 of those every year. Let's stay with this and get or develop some true pass rush guys to make it easier for the DB's....

I have been checking out other teams PS that run 3-4. There are a couple of guys I would not mind looking at. 

 

Chase Thomas number 4 all time at Stanford with 27.5 sacks. He is sitting on the Niners PS. I know we have some Stanford alum on here. Is he worth a look?

 

Adrian Hubbard a kid from Bama that had heart problems cleared now and bad attitude made him a 2-4 round projection to a UDFA he is sitting on the Packers PS. http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/02/wrapping_up_former_alabama_lb_1.html

 

http://www.patriots.com/media-center/videos/2014-Draft-Prospect---Adrian-Hubbard-LB-Alabama/b905ac6c-a92b-4658-be3e-52dd0af60912

 

The kid from Bama seems like if he can get his head on straight he might be helpful.  

 

I realize we have to clear a spot from the 53 man roster to get a look at them. Reitz should be about healed that will give us some flexibility. We might not find anything but those two were the ones that looked the most intriguing to me. 

[GoColts8818]

It's only week 3 and we played against the Jags and had to come back from behind against the Broncos.  He isn't a good OC.  Play calling in the 4th quarter against the Eagles was horrible.  We should have won that game if we were more aggressive.  I'm not going to blame the loss on the missed PI and botched horse collar tackle penalty.  Running the ball twice inside the 20 with 4 minutes to go versus the explosive Eagles was a mistake.  Put the ball in Luck's hands, score a TD there and we win the game.

lasdt drive of the Eagles game not withstanding this is the old only look at the stuff that supports the Pep stinks argument and just dismiss the stuff that works. Pep is not perfect but he's far from as bad as this forum wants him to be.

[wesd2890]

Yeah were 3rd in the league in scoring.. but were 29th in overall defense.. im no genius but you can have the best offense but if your defense is ranked at the bottom of the league your not gonna make it very far. Sigh

[krunk]

I'm disregarding the defensive stats for right now due to facing the best offense in NFL history in week one, and facing the uptempo very unique attack of the Eagles in week 2.  Just won't be facing these type of attacks week in and week out.  I expect us to rise a significant amount over the coming weeks after facing more traditional style attacks.

 

Our defense is much better than those numbers.  I'm not too worried to be honest, especially with the return of J. Freeman and Art Jones.  I also expect to see improvements in the pass rush

[csmopar]

I think our big guys are somewhat fast for their size. Art Jones and Zach Kerr both move very well, and I've saw Kerr chase down people outside the numbers before. I haven't heard much from Chapman this season. IDK if he is injured or if Kerr is just better, but I am impressed with the guy so far. Just because were giving up a lot of yds and pts. the first 3 weeks shows no indication how the rest of the season will play out. Especially when the stats are skewed from toughest offenses to such a weak offense in Jax.

I think the issue is Kerr seems to have a Very high motor that just doesn't stop.

[Jhaze55]

Another reason why the pass defense would be bad is the pass rush. More time to throw = more receivers open. Coupled with the bad coverage of the linebackers, it's no wonder they're ranked so low.

[CroatianColtsFan21]

I'm disregarding the defensive stats for right now due to facing the best offense in NFL history in week one, and facing the uptempo very unique attack of the Eagles in week 2.  Just won't be facing these type of attacks week in and week out.  I expect us to rise a significant amount over the coming weeks after facing more traditional style attacks.

 

Our defense is much better than those numbers.  I'm not too worried to be honest, especially with the return of J. Freeman and Art Jones.  I also expect to see improvements in the pass rush

 

can you please elaborate on what grounds you're expecting it?

 

i've been hoping for it, but i doubt the players we have suddenly magically get better at it...