one of the most overrated corners in the game.

[bestQBever]

Joe Haden has got to be the most overrated corner in the game. It just seems like he gives up big play after big play in key moments. 

[Synthetic]

He's better than Patrick Robinson, I have to say that.

[Nobody]

He's better than Patrick Robinson, I have to say that.

he's also better than Greg Toler, what does that matter? No one thinks Robinson is great

[Superman]

Joe Haden has got to be the most overrated corner in the game. It just seems like he gives up big play after big play in key moments. 

 

Haden hasn't been good this season, that's for sure. 

[Dark_Indy]

he's also better than Greg Toler, what does that matter? No one thinks Robinson is great

 

That same Greg Toler that has 2 interceptions and a touchdown in two weeks?

[Dustin]

He's always been overrated because of his draft status. Same goes for Patrick Peterson.

[Dustin]

That same Greg Toler that has 2 interceptions and a touchdown in two weeks?

Yes. Joe Haden is better than Greg Toler. Shocking revelation I know.

[BlueCollarColts]

That same Greg Toler that has 2 interceptions and a touchdown in two weeks?

I like Greg Toler, but Haden is better. Toler is a very good #2 guy though, and can certainly make some plays, like 2 int already this season and a pick 6 on one of them. 

[BlueCollarColts]

Is Vontae Davis one of the most underrated corners in the game? I don't think anyone outside of Colts fans really see him as a shut down corner. 

[Solon]

Is Vontae Davis one of the most underrated corners in the game? I don't think anyone outside of Colts fans really see him as a shut down corner. 

The guy who does Madden ratings put him in the top 5. He may not receive the recognition he deserves, but at least somebody noticed him.

[bestQBever]

dont get me wrong. Haden is a good corner. But he is not top 5.

[chad72]

Is Vontae Davis one of the most underrated corners in the game? I don't think anyone outside of Colts fans really see him as a shut down corner. 

 

As long as Vontae plays Demaryius Thomas every week, yes he is underrated .

 

He just needs to show more consistency against the likes of Andre Johnson, Antonio Brown and A.J.Green that he will face later this year. Then, people will take notice, IMO.

[BlueCollarColts]

As long as Vontae plays Demaryius Thomas every week, yes he is underrated .

 

He just needs to show more consistency against the likes of Andre Johnson, Antonio Brown and A.J.Green that he will face later this year. Then, people will take notice, IMO.

I agree with that, but he has been awfully consistent this year. I can't recall him ever getting beat in the 3 games so far really, unless he was beat in the 2nd half of the Jags game, which I didn't see. 

[Buck Showalter]

I agree with that, but he has been awfully consistent this year. I can't recall him ever getting beat in the 3 games so far really, unless he was beat in the 2nd half of the Jags game, which I didn't see.

He did have a penalty in the game, but he turned around & got a pick a play or two later, think that was in the 2nd half...

[ColtsBTM12]

That same Greg Toler that has 2 interceptions and a touchdown in two weeks?

6 days lol.

[cm43sports]

He did have a penalty in the game, but he turned around & got a pick a play or two later, think that was in the 2nd half...

Unfortunately that penalty negated a sack that resulted in a safety but he did make up for it by making the interception.

[Buck Showalter]

Unfortunately that penalty negated a sack that resulted in a safety but he did make up for it by making the interception.

yeah that was the one...

[Dark_Indy]

I like Greg Toler, but Haden is better. Toler is a very good #2 guy though, and can certainly make some plays, like 2 int already this season and a pick 6 on one of them. 

 

I understand that Haden may be better overall, but Toler has played better in the only year that really counts (this one). I don't understand the hate on Toler, he's a really good CB- yeah he got injured last year, but he's still a lot better than some teams can say for a #2. I'd be scared to see what Arizona's defense would look like with Toler, Peterson, and Matthieu.

[oldunclemark]

Joe Haden has got to be the most overrated corner in the game. It just seems like he gives up big play after big play in key moments.

when you analyze someone..you cant go solely by 'what it seems'

Joe Haden is pretty good....friends and foes alike say so

[Nobody]

That same Greg Toler that has 2 interceptions and a touchdown in two weeks?

Um.. Yeah. That one.

[thedude]

Is Vontae Davis one of the most underrated corners in the game? I don't think anyone outside of Colts fans really see him as a shut down corner. 

 

 

He's not underrated.  he's regarded as a decent CB, but inconsistent.   People don't see him as one of these shut down CB's because he's not.  On some teams, He'd be a nickel back.

[Gavin]

As long as Vontae plays Demaryius Thomas every week, yes he is underrated .

 

He just needs to show more consistency against the likes of Andre Johnson, Antonio Brown and A.J.Green that he will face later this year. Then, people will take notice, IMO.

All three are better then Thomas right now in there careers

[Le Neon]

He's not underrated. he's regarded as a decent CB, but inconsistent. People don't see him as one of these shut down CB's because he's not. On some teams, He'd be a nickel back.

Name one single team where Vontae would play nickel.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

He's not underrated. he's regarded as a decent CB, but inconsistent. People don't see him as one of these shut down CB's because he's not. On some teams, He'd be a nickel back.

Lolwut?

[thedude]

Lolwut?

I thought I was pretty clear. Re-read it.......

thedude, on 21 Sept 2014 - 9:19 PM, said:

He's not underrated. he's regarded as a decent CB, but inconsistent. People don't see him as one of these shut down CB's because he's not. On some teams, He'd be a nickel back.

[thedude]

Name one single team where Vontae would play nickel.

Seattle, Denver..... Oh sorry, you said only one.

[Le Neon]

Seattle, Denver..... Oh sorry, you said only one.

It was meant to be rhetorical. Any serious football fan knows the answer was nowhere.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

I thought I was pretty clear. Re-read it.......

Lolwut?

[thedude]

It was meant to be rhetorical. Any serious football fan knows the answer was nowhere.

Uh.... Yeah, right, uh-huh...... Ok

[jvan1973]

Seattle, Denver..... Oh sorry, you said only one.

He is better than Maxwell and Harris using anyones metrics

[thedude]

He is better than Maxwell and Harris using anyones metrics

Uh..... No.

And he's certainly not nearly as good as Jeremy Lane, who's the other starting CB for Seattle who's out with an injury due to return in a few more weeks. In Seattle, for sure he would be a nickel back and a back up to one of their starters.

[jvan1973]

Uh..... No.

uh yeah, find me one site that calculated metrics for corners that has Davis behind maxwell or Harris

[thedude]

Davis is an inconsistent CB. Period. He has his moments, but no team is going to be reluctant to go against him. He's not a big play threat at CB.

[jvan1973]

Davis is an inconsistent CB. Period. He has his moments, but no team is going to be reluctant to go against him. He's not a big play threat at CB.

You just described 95% of NFL cornerbacks Davis is better than Harris and Maxwell

[Le Neon]

You just described 95% of NFL cornerbacks Davis is better than Harris and Maxwell

And arguably Talib as well.

[thedude]

Davis is your guy and that's fine. He will be your guy until the Colts upgrade and let him walk.

[jvan1973]

Davis is your guy and that's fine. He will be your guy until the Colts upgrade and let him walk.

So no link to either being better than Davis then?

[thedude]

And arguably Talib as well.

Davis better than Talib? You lost credibility with that one.

[thedude]

So no link to either being better than Davis then?

Are you one of these guys who needs "a link" to support anything and everything? Good gawd....

[Le Neon]

Davis better than Talib? You lost credibility with that one.

Says the homer who thinks Maxwell is better then Davis.