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"Athletes: Don't take the sport you play for granted.  Every time you play, you better be damn thankful that you get to do something you love.  Don't show up to practice complaining about not wanting to be there; youre there hopefully because you love it.  Work hard every moment.  If you're not working hard, you don't deserve to play.  Play every practice or game like it's your last because it very well could be.  When you finally reach the day that you can't play, and you can only watch, then you will know how much you love something that you once took for granted."

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Yes, his last leadership act before being banished form the team until the suspension is up.  Hope he comes back with a huge chip on his shoulder...

 

Yes.....   and since he can't be in the locker room to help police things,  I suspect this was written for a few players who Mathis thinks are taking their careers for granted.   

 

I'm very OK with Mathis making his presence felt even when he's not there.    I hope this is posted on a wall in the locker-room for all to see......

 

He'll be missed both on the field,  and in the locker-room as well....

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I'm sorry, this from a guy who got caught cheating? I'd have written a different letter.

But that's just me.

Perhaps he followed it up with an apology?

Well...yes, what he wrote was wrong even though it was right, but because he was wrong he should write about what he did wrong, right? :hat:

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and what benefit would taking the drug have on a player's ability

Clomid is used as a pct. which is post cycle therapy during a steroid cycle. It's used to jump start your natural production of testosterone.

Now do I believe he was using ped's? I really don't care. The only downfall is he actually got caught using for whatever reason he used it. I believe a vast majority of players use some sort of Peds. It's not some magic drug. You still have to bust your hump and put in the work. I know or have heard most players use them to bounce back from injuries faster. The longer you are not on that field the higher the chance you're taking to not get your job back. It's become a immediate gratification league. You don't come in right off the bat and ball out you're a bust. I can go in and on.

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you cant put a price on a child

Lol. You still buy his "using it for children" excuse?

Even though it's meant for women? If he were trying for a child, there are much better male fertility drugs .

It's a universal drug for PED users. It's unsurprising that he was busted after having his best season ever when he was in his 30s.

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While we can all be blind homers at times, anyone buying the baby nonsense really should......well, you fill in the rest!

I think the average person literally doesn't know what the drug is it what it's used for. As soon as I heard clomid I knew what was up.

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Lol. You still buy his "using it for children" excuse?

Even though it's meant for women? If he were trying for a child, there are much better male fertility drugs .

It's a universal drug for PED users. It's unsurprising that he was busted after having his best season ever when he was in his 30s.

 

 

While we can all be blind homers at times, anyone buying the baby nonsense really should......well, you fill in the rest!

 

 

I think the average person literally doesn't know what the drug is it what it's used for. As soon as I heard clomid I knew what was up.

 

i said the same things when he first got caught. it wasn't received well here though.

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The only people who will ever know why he used that drug are he and his doctor(s).  I won't begin to guess whether he used it truly for fertility or for PED cover-up.  However, I am an obstetrician/gynecologist, and I deal with infertility every day.  There are many fertility specialists who prescribe Clomid for men either for abnormal sperm counts or to improve the chances of a woman getting pregnant through IVF.  The fact that this drug is not approved by the FDA for this particular indication, does not necessarily mean that it is quack medicine.  There is some real data to suggest its effectiveness, and Ive seen the success stories myself.  Again, Im not saying that Mathis' motives were pure.  Im also not saying it was a good idea to use any substance before checking it out with the NFL directly.  Im just trying to add some of my knowlegde to the discussion.  Unfortunately, none of his reasons matter.  It was banned, he failed the test, and they have to prepare for the next 4 games without him.  If he truly used it for that baby, then in all honesty, the price is problably worth the reward for him.  If he used it for less inspiring reasons, then so be it.  Either way the price will be paid.  Now as for this letter - Go Mathis!  Leadership is invaluable.  Glad he's a Colt!

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The only people who will ever know why he used that drug are he and his doctor(s).  I won't begin to guess whether he used it truly for fertility or for PED cover-up.  However, I am an obstetrician/gynecologist, and I deal with infertility every day.  There are many fertility specialists who prescribe Clomid for men either for abnormal sperm counts or to improve the chances of a woman getting pregnant through IVF.  The fact that this drug is not approved by the FDA for this particular indication, does not necessarily mean that it is quack medicine.  There is some real data to suggest its effectiveness, and Ive seen the success stories myself.  Again, Im not saying that Mathis' motives were pure.  Im also not saying it was a good idea to use any substance before checking it out with the NFL directly.  Im just trying to add some of my knowlegde to the discussion.  Unfortunately, none of his reasons matter.  It was banned, he failed the test, and they have to prepare for the next 4 games without him.  If he truly used it for that baby, then in all honesty, the price is problably worth the reward for him.  If he used it for less inspiring reasons, then so be it.  Either way the price will be paid.  Now as for this letter - Go Mathis!  Leadership is invaluable.  Glad he's a Colt!

 

i'm not a doctor so i will ask your medical opinion.

 

what are the chances someone 32-33 years old, had twins a year earlier, and is healthy, has a fertility issue unless his sperm count has gone down because of ped's?

 

to me, common sense says he is full of it, and i would respect him more if he just admitted it.

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The only people who will ever know why he used that drug are he and his doctor(s).  I won't begin to guess whether he used it truly for fertility or for PED cover-up.  However, I am an obstetrician/gynecologist, and I deal with infertility every day.  There are many fertility specialists who prescribe Clomid for men either for abnormal sperm counts or to improve the chances of a woman getting pregnant through IVF.  The fact that this drug is not approved by the FDA for this particular indication, does not necessarily mean that it is quack medicine.  There is some real data to suggest its effectiveness, and Ive seen the success stories myself.  Again, Im not saying that Mathis' motives were pure.  Im also not saying it was a good idea to use any substance before checking it out with the NFL directly.  Im just trying to add some of my knowlegde to the discussion.  Unfortunately, none of his reasons matter.  It was banned, he failed the test, and they have to prepare for the next 4 games without him.  If he truly used it for that baby, then in all honesty, the price is problably worth the reward for him.  If he used it for less inspiring reasons, then so be it.  Either way the price will be paid.  Now as for this letter - Go Mathis!  Leadership is invaluable.  Glad he's a Colt!

 

Very constructive post. /applause. 

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i'm not a doctor so i will ask your medical opinion.

 

what are the chances someone 32-33 years old, had twins a year earlier, and is healthy, has a fertility issue unless his sperm count has gone down because of ped's?

 

to me, common sense says he is full of it, and i would respect him more if he just admitted it.

 

Not saying there wasn't foul play but I'm pretty sure they used fertility drugs the first time they had children. Probably one of the reasons that had twins. 

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i'm not a doctor so i will ask your medical opinion.

 

what are the chances someone 32-33 years old, had twins a year earlier, and is healthy, has a fertility issue unless his sperm count has gone down because of ped's?

 

to me, common sense says he is full of it, and i would respect him more if he just admitted it.

 

His wife was unable to take Clomid for their last kid because of a medical condition, sounds like she might have been taking it for the previous children (twins), and since she could not take it this time he took it instead.  The twins make his story more plausible not less.

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did you read this, or are you guessing?

 

He is probably guessing as I don't remember seeing them comment on whether they took fertility treatment for their first kids .... but, the basis of his guess is legitimate; conceiving while on a fertility treatment frequently results in having twins (or more).

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He is probably guessing as I don't remember seeing them comment on whether they took fertility treatment for their first kids .... but, the basis of his guess is legitimate; conceiving while on a fertility treatment frequently results in having twins (or more).

True. But as to what the Doc said. Clomid is NOT used to mask PED use. It is used for post therapy. To get your natural stuff kick started again. If you flood your body with synthetic test. Your body stops producing. So you need to get it going again.

For what ever reason he used them. Being a pro athlete and weight lifter he knows and has heard of clomid besides the fertility. Actually that was new to me. I knew women could take it for that but not the men.

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i'm not a doctor so i will ask your medical opinion.

 

what are the chances someone 32-33 years old, had twins a year earlier, and is healthy, has a fertility issue unless his sperm count has gone down because of ped's?

 

to me, common sense says he is full of it, and i would respect him more if he just admitted it.

 

According to Mathis, the doctor told him to take the Clomid because his wife wasn't healthy enough to take it.  That raises a red flag for me because if his wife is the one with the fertility issue, why would the doctor tell him to take it instead.  It doesn't make any sense to me. 

 

Also, the doctor claimed that he never told Mathis that taking Clomid wouldn't put his NFL career in jeopardy.  The doctor also claimed he didn't even know Mathis played football!  Mathis' doctor also isn't a fertility specialist - he's an anti-aging specialist.  Why would Mathis and his wife be going to an anti-aging specialist instead of a fertility specialist to get pregnant?

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Great letter.

If he took it for his post ped to get his natural testosterone going why wasn't any ped found as well or before. Doing what he was doing last year at his age I'm sure he was tested more than that one time.

It's not used to coverup peds when used by lifters, it's used when cycling off to keep the natural levels going.

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According to Mathis, the doctor told him to take the Clomid because his wife wasn't healthy enough to take it.  That raises a red flag for me because if his wife is the one with the fertility issue, why would the doctor tell him to take it instead.  It doesn't make any sense to me. 

 

Also, the doctor claimed that he never told Mathis that taking Clomid wouldn't put his NFL career in jeopardy.  The doctor also claimed he didn't even know Mathis played football!  Mathis' doctor also isn't a fertility specialist - he's an anti-aging specialist.  Why would Mathis and his wife be going to an anti-aging specialist instead of a fertility specialist to get pregnant?

Sources?? Where did you hear all this inside info? On the appeal, Mathis and his doc gave them their whole entire medical records. If you are going to make such claims, I want it backed up by more than rumors. It's a FACT that Mathis opened the entire medical records to the NFL...and they didn't buy It....and as a father who a year ago was offered it as a drug to "help things" I can attest to it. We have a 2 month old son to prove it.

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He is probably guessing as I don't remember seeing them comment on whether they took fertility treatment for their first kids .... but, the basis of his guess is legitimate; conceiving while on a fertility treatment frequently results in having twins (or more).

 

i believe that goes for women taking fertility drugs not men. if they are fraternal (not identical) it is because of two eggs being released and absolutely nothing to do with robert's fertility.

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Not saying there wasn't foul play but I'm pretty sure they used fertility drugs the first time they had children. Probably one of the reasons that had twins. 

 

if he used them the first time, why didn't it show up in a nfl drug test? if it did, he wouldn't have taken it a 2nd time.

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