Should Patriots trade Brady after 2014 season?

[Sports Central1]

What do you guys think?  Should the Patriots trade Brady after the 2014 season whether they win the super bowl or not?  He'll be 38 before the start of next season.

 

After the Logan Mankins trade to the Bucs it really brought it home how the Pats are all business and this off season is the most I've ever been hearing and reading the Boston media talk about "life after Brady" and asking when the Pats are going to move on, especially after drafting Garoppolo.

 

If I was Belichick I would do it, in the off season I would trade Brady and go with Garoppolo.

 

If Brady has a BIG season 40+ td's his stock will be up there and teams who are close to winning a SB and just need a QB would be willing to offer up some draft picks I think.

 

Teams like the 49ers.  If Colin has a bad year I wouldn't be surprised if the 49ers traded for Brady.  I always thought he'd finish his career with the 49ers his favorite childhood team.

 

If I were the Pats I also would trade Brady within the division to the Bills or Dolphins for a 1st or 2nd round picks because I think those teams are so bad and need many years of rebuilding they won't challenge the Pats in the few remaining years Brady has left.

 

[Loneranger]

What do you guys think?  Should the Patriots trade Brady after the 2014 season whether they win the super bowl or not?  He'll be 38 before the start of next season.

 

After the Logan Mankins trade to the Bucs it really brought it home how the Pats are all business and this off season is the most I've ever been hearing and reading the Boston media talk about "life after Brady" and asking when the Pats are going to move on, especially after drafting Garoppolo.

 

If I was Belichick I would do it, in the off season I would trade Brady and go with Garoppolo.

 

If Brady has a BIG season 40+ td's his stock will be up there and teams who are close to winning a SB and just need a QB would be willing to offer up some draft picks I think.

 

Teams like the 49ers.  If Colin has a bad year I wouldn't be surprised if the 49ers traded for Brady.  I always thought he'd finish his career with the 49ers his favorite childhood team.

 

If I were the Pats I also would trade Brady within the division to the Bills or Dolphins for a 1st or 2nd round picks because I think those teams are so bad and need many years of rebuilding they won't challenge the Pats in the few remaining years Brady has left.

Normally I would think you are correct but I think the owner wants Brady to retire a Patriot and he will. Also, at that age I can't see anyone giving up that much for him unless it was the one thing you needed to win a SB. The 49ers are already committed to Kap.

[Gavin]

Brady would make the Bills an Dolphins instant contenders if we are talking about trading AFTER the season, Both teams have plenty of talent, The Dolphins need O Linemen that know what blocking means. Bills need a Safety but the Bills have talent at wr 

[ViriLudant]

Absolutely not. Garoppolo would have to take a HUGE leap. He's nowhere near Brady's level yet.

Never mind the fact that Brady's contract is MUCH friendlier after this season.

[CR91]

Absolutely not. Garoppolo would have to take a HUGE leap. He's nowhere near Brady's level yet.

Never mind the fact that Brady's contract is MUCH friendlier after this season.

 

you have to think though, is anyone safe in that organization?

[Sports Central1]

Absolutely not. Garoppolo would have to take a HUGE leap. He's nowhere near Brady's level yet.

Never mind the fact that Brady's contract is MUCH friendlier after this season.

 

I agree as of September 2014.  What about September 2015 where Garoppolo by then had a year to learn under Brady.

 

The sooner you give Garoppolo reps and actual real playtime the sooner he adapts.

 

I just don't want the Pats to make a mistake by keeping Garoppolo on the sidelines too long.

 

The Pats are going to have to take that leap sooner rather than later.

[Sports Central1]

you have to think though, is anyone safe in that organization?

 

No one is.

[Bluefire4]

Jimmy better be up to Brady's level and Brady would have to take a step back.. fall off like Eli has.

[Dustin]

After 2015 he's gone.

[oldunclemark]

What do you guys think?  Should the Patriots trade Brady after the 2014 season whether they win the super bowl or not?  He'll be 38 before the start of next season.\ 

After the Logan Mankins trade to the Bucs it really brought it home how the Pats are all business and this off season is the most I've ever been hearing and reading the Boston media talk about "life after Brady" and asking when the Pats are going to move on, especially after drafting Garoppolo.

 

If I was Belichick I would do it, in the off season I would trade Brady and go with Garoppolo.

 

And you would go straight to last place...Its a good thing you aren't Belichick

[CheezyColt]

you have to think though, is anyone safe in that organization?

 

That can definitely be said of our organization too.  We cut Peyton Manning.  It was the right move, but if Peyton wasn't untouchable, then who possibly could be in our organization?  Stones and glass houses kind of thing.

[CR91]

That can definitely be said of our organization too.  We cut Peyton Manning.  It was the right move, but if Peyton wasn't untouchable, then who possibly could be in our organization?  Stones and glass houses kind of thing.

 

that was a tough situation. honestly if we didnt have the opportunity to draft andrew, peyton would probably still be a colt

[GoColts8818]

They won't trade Brady.

[dw49]

What do you guys think?  Should the Patriots trade Brady after the 2014 season whether they win the super bowl or not?  He'll be 38 before the start of next season.

 

After the Logan Mankins trade to the Bucs it really brought it home how the Pats are all business and this off season is the most I've ever been hearing and reading the Boston media talk about "life after Brady" and asking when the Pats are going to move on, especially after drafting Garoppolo.

 

If I was Belichick I would do it, in the off season I would trade Brady and go with Garoppolo.

 

If Brady has a BIG season 40+ td's his stock will be up there and teams who are close to winning a SB and just need a QB would be willing to offer up some draft picks I think.

 

Teams like the 49ers.  If Colin has a bad year I wouldn't be surprised if the 49ers traded for Brady.  I always thought he'd finish his career with the 49ers his favorite childhood team.

 

If I were the Pats I also would trade Brady within the division to the Bills or Dolphins for a 1st or 2nd round picks because I think those teams are so bad and need many years of rebuilding they won't challenge the Pats in the few remaining years Brady has left.

 

 

Should you have bothered to look at his contract and include the 18 million $ cap hit they would take trading him after the 2014 season ?

[Sports Central1]

Should you have bothered to look at his contract and include the 18 million $ cap hit they would take trading him after the 2014 season ?

 

That's a good point.  I wasn't thinking about the cap hit, I was thinking more of the Pats getting what they can out of Brady's playing, trading him right before he's washed up to get something in return and give Garoppolo the reps he needs.

 

I just don't want Garoppolo to be a wasted talent.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

We should have traded Peyton.

[ViriLudant]

you have to think though, is anyone safe in that organization?

You mean besides guys like Bruschi, Troy Brown, Willie McGinnest, Matt Light, among many others ?

[amfootball]

Absolutely not. Garoppolo would have to take a HUGE leap. He's nowhere near Brady's level yet.

Never mind the fact that Brady's contract is MUCH friendlier after this season.

This pretty much. I like Jimmy a lot but four preseason games don't put him at Brady's level. He was good enough to beat out Mallett which is great for him but not exactly earth shattering either given Mallett's issues. Also the reason Kraft did the extension with Brady two seasons ago was so that his contract would not be an albatross as he approaches 40.

[amfootball]

I agree as of September 2014.  What about September 2015 where Garoppolo by then had a year to learn under Brady.

 

The sooner you give Garoppolo reps and actual real playtime the sooner he adapts.

 

I just don't want the Pats to make a mistake by keeping Garoppolo on the sidelines too long.

 

The Pats are going to have to take that leap sooner rather than later.

What is the rush? Jimmy isn't going anywhere. The longer he learns under Brady, the better.

[CR91]

You mean besides guys like Bruschi, Troy Brown, Willie McGinnest, Matt Light, among many others ?

 

mcginnest was a brown to end his career. you forget guys like mike varbel, ty warren, richard seymour, wes welker, deion branch, asante samuel

[amfootball]

mcginnest was a brown to end his career. you forget guys like mike varbel, ty warren, richard seymour, wes welker, deion branch, asante samuel

Very few players on any NFL team stay with one team their whole career because of the cap and FA. Mankins is gone because he did not want to restructure like Wilfork who remained and will finish his career as a Patriot. Welker chose to leave - Pats made him two contract offers that he declined. Branch held out forcing a trade. The list goes on and on. Brady is likely to finish a Patriot because he already did an extension two years ago that will drop his base salary to $7 mil next year. Anything can happen but contracts are the biggest issues with aging players.

[dw49]

That's a good point.  I wasn't thinking about the cap hit, I was thinking more of the Pats getting what they can out of Brady's playing, trading him right before he's washed up to get something in return and give Garoppolo the reps he needs.

 

I just don't want Garoppolo to be a wasted talent.

 

 

They could make that move after 2015 but still a 12 mill $ hit but only a negative 2 mill as they had to pay his salary if they kept him. Thing is not only did Brady give them a discount but the Pats pouched some of his pay down the road a bit. The contract was really not written for him to retire or be traded before the 2017 season. You have to pay a little bit of a price to have guys like Brady and a bunch of other well paid players and then be able to afford Revis.... 

[Colts_Fan12]

That's a good point. I wasn't thinking about the cap hit, I was thinking more of the Pats getting what they can out of Brady's playing, trading him right before he's washed up to get something in return and give Garoppolo the reps he needs.

I just don't want Garoppolo to be a wasted talent.

I feel the same about cousins I'm a MSU fan and would love to see him get a chance I think he could really help alot of teams

[amfootball]

They could make that move after 2015 but still a 12 mill $ hit but only a negative 2 mill as they had to pay his salary if they kept him. Thing is not only did Brady give them a discount but the Pats pouched some of his pay down the road a bit. The contract was really not written for him to retire or be traded before the 2017 season. You have to pay a little bit of a price to have guys like Brady and a bunch of other well paid players and then be able to afford Revis.... 

Excellent points. The impetus behind Kraft talking to Brady for 18 months to get him to sign the deal was so that he would remain a Patriot until age 40. Kraft said that after what he saw happen with Manning, he did not want Brady in another uniform. But as you say, it takes two to tango. Both sides compromised so he can remain until 2017. Now look if the wheels come off then all bets are off but even a 80 percent Brady is better then just about any other starting QB.

[-JJ-]

Who's to say Jimmy will be anything. We all know how that works out with so many predicted stars.

 

Who knows Brady can't be effective at 40.  He's healthy and hasn't really been banged up over the years, He is a bit slower but defense,protection and run game will help that.

 

I don't think anyone here has a bead on where Brady will be.

[Synthetic]

I will never understand for the life of how every QB that backs up Brady is put on the pedestal and made out to be the second coming.

 

Remember Matt Cassel?

[Jason_]

We should have traded Peyton.

And incurred a $35 million cap hit?

[ViriLudant]

I will never understand for the life of how every QB that backs up Brady is put on the pedestal and made out to be the second coming.

Remember Matt Cassel?

That guy who had an outstanding year with the Chiefs before getting injured?

Him?

[bap1331]

What do you guys think?  Should the Patriots trade Brady after the 2014 season whether they win the super bowl or not?  He'll be 38 before the start of next season.

 

After the Logan Mankins trade to the Bucs it really brought it home how the Pats are all business and this off season is the most I've ever been hearing and reading the Boston media talk about "life after Brady" and asking when the Pats are going to move on, especially after drafting Garoppolo.

 

If I was Belichick I would do it, in the off season I would trade Brady and go with Garoppolo.

 

If Brady has a BIG season 40+ td's his stock will be up there and teams who are close to winning a SB and just need a QB would be willing to offer up some draft picks I think.

 

Teams like the 49ers.  If Colin has a bad year I wouldn't be surprised if the 49ers traded for Brady.  I always thought he'd finish his career with the 49ers his favorite childhood team.

 

If I were the Pats I also would trade Brady within the division to the Bills or Dolphins for a 1st or 2nd round picks because I think those teams are so bad and need many years of rebuilding they won't challenge the Pats in the few remaining years Brady has left.

 

i have a feeling that the Peyton Manning situation when leaving the Colts will impact Brady alot. I have a feeling Its going to end up being like the Rodgers and Brett Favre situation. Except its Garrapolo and Brady. Why does it sound like Bledsoe and Brady all over again...? lol

[bap1331]

you have to think though, is anyone safe in that organization?

 

after what happened to Peyton. Its

 

And incurred a $35 million cap hit?

 

but we probably would have gotten a first, 2nd, and 3rd rounder every year til this year. lol. That means:

 

2 first, second, and 3rd round picks in 2012

2 first, second, and 3rd round picks in 2013

2 frist, second, and 3rd round picks in 2014.

 

jk..

[bap1331]

Absolutely not. Garoppolo would have to take a HUGE leap. He's nowhere near Brady's level yet.

Never mind the fact that Brady's contract is MUCH friendlier after this season.

 

anything is possible man. You think Jim Irsay had a crystal ball when he let Peyton go for Luck? Luck could have been a huge bust for all we know. It could have been the worst management decision of all time. We wouldve been in the Top 10 Worst Management Decisions of all time on NFL Network with Peyton instead of Leaf at #2 and Jamarcus Russell at #3.

 

It was just as much as a risk as when Packers let Favre go for Rodgers. They didnt know Rodgers would turn out to be one of the best of today...

 

Pats have to look at their future already and thats what organizations prefer nowadays. If they let Brady play until 45, what happens to the team after that? Garrapolo shines elseware and they are stuck with nothing.

 

Dont worry it was hard for us Colts fans when Peyton left. But it took me like 24 hours to recover, then I was all excited about Luck looking at his videos.

[ViriLudant]

anything is possible man. You think Jim Irsay had a crystal ball when he let Peyton go for Luck? Luck could have been a huge bust for all we know. It could have been the worst management decision of all time. We wouldve been in the Top 10 Worst Management Decisions of all time on NFL Network with Peyton instead of Leaf at #2 and Jamarcus Russell at #3.

It was just as much as a risk as when Packers let Favre go for Rodgers. They didnt know Rodgers would turn out to be one of the best of today...

Pats have to look at their future already and thats what organizations prefer nowadays. If they let Brady play until 45, what happens to the team after that? Garrapolo shines elseware and they are stuck with nothing.

Dont worry it was hard for us Colts fans when Peyton left. But it took me like 24 hours to recover, then I was all excited about Luck looking at his videos.

Apples and oranges. Peyton was coming off several surgeries. The Colts had the #1 pick. Luck was deemed "the best prepared QB since Elway".

Garoppolo has to vastly prove and Brady has to greatly drop off for anything to change.

[BloodyChamp]

A 38 year old can play quarterback in today's game. Age is hardly an issue anymore.

[JamesGallegos]

Tom Brady‘s name has been mentioned several times this week as one who may not be as safe as fans think. Just today, Tom E. Curran of Comcast Sports Net New England said Brady would, “almost certainly” be gone before the 2017 season. 

[TAPLOOK]

Brady could restructure at anytime so don't even try to figure out cap space/salary scenario down the line. 2017 is the soonest that anything would happen with Brady and most likely not even then. He'll extend or retire as a Patriot. He's never been about the money but the fact that he has too much to count doesn't hurt the Patriots or him. 

[GoPats]

Not until after 2015 at the earliest, if it ever happens. It's too hard to tell. You don't know if Brady is going to decline, if Garoppolo will improve, etc. Right now the gap between them is the gap between a HOF career and a guy who's played in four preseason games and started one. Garoppolo isn't anywhere close to being ready. 

 

I also wouldn't necessarily lump Brady in with Mankins, Seymour, Milloy, etc. I understand why people feel that way based on the team's history, but there's no precedent to follow with the QB position and this particular player. (Don't forget, Belichick inherited Bledsoe, and was not a big fan having coached against him in Cleveland and NY.) Would it shock me? No, I guess not, but I strongly feel that Brady's exit from football and/or the Patriots will be something that is mutually agreed-upon by all parties. 

 

Tedy Bruschi recently said that Belichick sat him down and told him, "It's time" during the training camp where he retired. Bruschi didn't want to play anywhere else so he accepted his coach's terms and retired. Though many have left or been sent packing, there are plenty of examples of guys who played out their careers here. I don't think Brady is going to play for another team at any point, but I don't know that for a fact obviously.

[Valpo2004]

Umm Brady is one of those guys that you just can't trade away.  He will stay with the Pats as long as he wants to be there and he's somewhat effective.  Too much emotional connection.

 

Honestly the player I think their team should trade would be Adrian Peterson.  After this season he'll be 30, but you know some dumb team is going to ignore that and lay down a high pick for him.

 

But I think it's highly possible that Adrian Peterson is similar to Brady, the team can't realistically trade him because of his emotional connection to the team.  

[TAPLOOK]

Brady just said in and interview and hour ago " I like to win. When I suck I'll quit". Right now he's still arguably the best QB in the NFL and only being paid 9 million over the next three seasons. The best bargain in football by a wide margin.

[shakedownstreet]

[-JJ-]

Brady just said in and interview and hour ago " I like to win. When I suck I'll quit". Right now he's still arguably the best QB in the NFL and only being paid 9 million over the next three seasons. The best bargain in football by a wide margin.

Well that kind of says it. Pretty much what I expected he'd say.