Rogers' Stupidity Baffles Me

[Rebelknight]

Correct me if I am wrong but hasnt there been some good players do the same thing....Scottie Pipen..Dirk Nowinski..Piere Garson..Brandon Marshal...I mean list is long..

[Douzer]

Are the Colts running a professional football team or daycare center? Stupid is as stupid does. --- Forest Gump

[John Dee]

But Andy he is OUR future #1 WR....     heheeehhhee

 

Stupid is as stupid does...      I can't believe Indy has messed with him for this long.

Before the Bengals game, I would have told you it was smart to keep 6 receivers (Rogers and Whalen). But after watching Rogers play and seeing him fight for his life in the 2nd half of the game with and against 3rd stringers, it's obvious that he's not worth a roster spot.

 

Ok, I know, there are a lot of diehard supporters of Rogers, who spout the word "potential" every chance they get. Maybe he has good potential, but with the exception of a few plays, this man has proved nothing and looks invisible most of the time. This is more fact than opinion. 

 

At first, we were arguing Whalen vs Rogers. After seeing Pagano tell Whalen to take the night off early in the game, and tell Rogers to go play in the 2nd half, I think we have our answer. 

 

Now, if Rogers were able to prove himself in the latter portion of the game, he would be worth the spot. He caught a touchdown pass! WOW, he saved his job... not so fast. In what was another act of stupidity, he kicked the ball into the stands only to get a 15 yard penalty. He kicked the ball, he punted it... We're not done.

 

As the Bengals sideline and the announcers were doing their Ice Bucket challenge, I went to Twitter to see some news and saw on the broadcast that Rogers had walked away from the coaches who were attempting to talk to him. They tried talking to him but he didn't listen. I remember an incident against the Bengals last year, where after scoring an impressive touchdown, he showboated into the endzone and Pagano gave him a talking to. I won't forget it, Rogers was unresponsive and attempted to walk away. This is the type of guy he is.

 

So, the kid has made a few nice plays, but when it comes down to the final spot on the roster, give it to a hard working special teamer rather than a guy like Rogers.

 

Now, I understand I may get yelled at by some Rogers fans, so go ahead fans.

[pgt_rob]

He should respect his elders (coach). He's obviously putting a lot of trust in him, he needs to man up to that trust and not do stupid crap on the field.

[akcolt]

Before the Bengals game, I would have told you it was smart to keep 6 receivers (Rogers and Whalen). But after watching Rogers play and seeing him fight for his life in the 2nd half of the game with and against 3rd stringers, it's obvious that he's not worth a roster spot.

 

Ok, I know, there are a lot of diehard supporters of Rogers, who spout the word "potential" every chance they get. Maybe he has good potential, but with the exception of a few plays, this man has proved nothing and looks invisible most of the time. This is more fact than opinion. 

 

At first, we were arguing Whalen vs Rogers. After seeing Pagano tell Whalen to take the night off early in the game, and tell Rogers to go play in the 2nd half, I think we have our answer. 

 

Now, if Rogers were able to prove himself in the latter portion of the game, he would be worth the spot. He caught a touchdown pass! WOW, he saved his job... not so fast. In what was another act of stupidity, he kicked the ball into the stands only to get a 15 yard penalty. He kicked the ball, he punted it... We're not done.

 

As the Bengals sideline and the announcers were doing their Ice Bucket challenge, I went to Twitter to see some news and saw on the broadcast that Rogers had walked away from the coaches who were attempting to talk to him. They tried talking to him but he didn't listen. I remember an incident against the Bengals last year, where after scoring an impressive touchdown, he showboated into the endzone and Pagano gave him a talking to. I won't forget it, Rogers was unresponsive and attempted to walk away. This is the type of guy he is.

 

So, the kid has made a few nice plays, but when it comes down to the final spot on the roster, give it to a hard working special teamer rather than a guy like Rogers.

 

Now, I understand I may get yelled at by some Rogers fans, so go ahead fans.

He put forth little effort on the interception as well didn't come back to the ball just kind of let Manning have it. Last week he left the TE uncovered. I don't get all the love he gets on this board.

 

For god's sake someone said he had some Michael Irvin in him today.... that is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard. I would just as soon see him go so we can stop hearing about his potential. It is obvious to me Luck doesn't trust him think that goes back to the int in the NE game last year

[buccolts]

It's so much what he did now, it's more of a fact that he's done this before. In the game against the Bengals, he showboated into the endzone and when Pagano spoke to him, he almost seemed non-responsive (NFL Films filmed it). 

 

This guy does not get a lot of opportunities, but whenever I see him out there, he's either invisible or doing stuff like tonight. 

 

If it were up to me, I'd send him packing, maybe try and get him on the PS.

 

His punting the ball will have little to nothing to do with his demise.

The ensuing conversation may, but none of us know what took place, 'cept that he walked away.

[dudeski]

This kid had HUGE issues coming out of college, he hasn't done a single freaking thing but celebrate too much on one occasion? (let's not kid ourselves, it's preseason) I think he's done wonderfully considering.

You know he'd never make it to the PS. You're all blowing this way out of proportion.

yep

[TKnight24]

Hakeem did something stupid too, calm down man. He punted a ball, big whoop. Huge overreaction Andy

His reason for punting the ball:

@HolderStephen: Da'Rick Rogers' explanation: He didn't know the celebration rules and what you can and can't do with the football. #Colts

[Andy]

His reason for punting the ball:

@HolderStephen: Da'Rick Rogers' explanation: He didn't know the celebration rules and what you can and can't do with the football. #Colts

 

[Nobody]

His reason for punting the ball:

@HolderStephen: Da'Rick Rogers' explanation: He didn't know the celebration rules and what you can and can't do with the football. #Colts

He should obviously know but meh.

[jskinnz]

I can't comment on the not listening to the coaches part. Cause it's the first I've heard of it. I do think he needs to cut out the crap and play. I'd feel cheated also if I had Harnish as my qb to help seal my fate.

Your last comment is just categorical nonsense. Rogers will make the team or get cut based on his body of work in practice, meetings, or with his attitude, etc and not just on the fact that Harnish was his QB in this last preseason game. You don't think the coaches know that having Harnish and scrubs on the line hinders the offense. Besides, even with Harnish at QB, they can still make judgements on if he did his job, if he palyed hard or blocked when that was called for.

[indy1888]

The fact that he played the whole game should have been enough of a hint that he probably should not do anything stupid.  It's obvious now that the team feels much better with Whalen then Rogers, as they should. I was at camp one day this year and Rogers did something similar after scoring a TD, except he was taunting the DB.  I can remember Pagano yelling at him for it that day.   IMO, Rogers has not progressed much if at all in his route running from last year anyway.  It looked to me like he did listen to Pagano, but did not act happy as he walked away and was mouthing something to one of the assistant coaches.

[SOMDColtsfan]

Although the are both WR they have different roles

Griff is never going to be a deep threat and Rogers will not be a slot machine

Just as

GH will never play under the basket and Roy will not be a perimeter player

I get what you`re saying, but taking into account the other WR`s on the roster already IMHO, I`d take Whalen. He`s just a good hard nosed football player. Sometimes effort trumps talent and again, IMO this is one of those times   

[SOMDColtsfan]

So do the Colts.

? - I wouldn't put WR as a Colts "need", probably the most talented and good depth position of any

[akcolt]

He doesn't know to cover the TE either which is much more important. He is a selfish player wants to be the man all the problems he had the resulted in him going UD are still there. If we are keeping 6 yeah keep the kid but if it means Kerr Purifoy Muamba Burley or anyone that will help the team goes send him on his way.

 

He won't see the field unless our WR are hit hard by injuries probably won't even dress

[TKnight24]

I get what you`re saying, but taking into account the other WR`s on the roster already IMHO, I`d take Whalen. He`s just a good hard nosed football player. Sometimes effort trumps talent and again, IMO this is one of those times

"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"- Kevin Durant

[SOMDColtsfan]

"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"- Kevin Durant

Bravo! lol yeah that's what I meant

[will426]

Lol I'm trying to understand what Rogers has done to even have a roster spot. In the games he's played in this preseason has he caught more than 2 passes?? 1-2 catches a game does not mean he's good hell with all the hype around him he should be lighting it up every week but that isn't the case now is it..

[dudeski]

He doesn't know to cover the TE either which is much more important. He is a selfish player wants to be the man all the problems he had the resulted in him going UD are still there. If we are keeping 6 yeah keep the kid but if it means Kerr Purifoy Muamba Burley or anyone that will help the team goes send him on his way.

He won't see the field unless our WR are hit hard by injuries probably won't even dress

you sure do know a lot about his personality

[HtownColt]

Rogers Still makes the team, Moncrief is the receiver who has been a little let down for me, that uncertainty should keep Rogers on board

[Defjamz26]

He put forth little effort on the interception as well didn't come back to the ball just kind of let Manning have it. Last week he left the TE uncovered. I don't get all the love he gets on this board.

 

For god's sake someone said he had some Michael Irvin in him today.... that is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard. I would just as soon see him go so we can stop hearing about his potential. It is obvious to me Luck doesn't trust him think that goes back to the int in the NE game last year

 

That Kansas City playoff game says otherwise. Luck gave him a chance on that 20 yard bomb and trusted him to go up and get it over the CB, and he did just that. His potential isn't like a Stephen Hill for example. He's actually demonstrated it. Most of the plays he makes are always big plays as well.

[NewEra]

Your last comment is just categorical nonsense. Rogers will make the team or get cut based on his body of work in practice, meetings, or with his attitude, etc and not just on the fact that Harnish was his QB in this last preseason game. You don't think the coaches know that having Harnish and scrubs on the line hinders the offense. Besides, even with Harnish at QB, they can still make judgements on if he did his job, if he palyed hard or blocked when that was called for.

Well no duh. Guess I should if made it more clear that it was tongue in cheek.

[HtownColt]

The fact that he played the whole game should have been enough of a hint that he probably should not do anything stupid. It's obvious now that the team feels much better with Whalen then Rogers, as they should. I was at camp one day this year and Rogers did something similar after scoring a TD, except he was taunting the DB. I can remember Pagano yelling at him for it that day. IMO, Rogers has not progressed much if at all in his route running from last year anyway. It looked to me like he did listen to Pagano, but did not act happy as he walked away and was mouthing something to one of the assistant coaches.

He played the whole game because colts only used 4 WRs today, and Lankford barely played so really 3(Moncrief, Rogers, and Lenz)

[TKnight24]

Can't find the video of it to save my life. But it definitely was the Chiefs game Round 1 of last season in Kansas City

Maybe Gavin could pull the bid. He usually has the NFL replay or whatever it is where he can go back and watch the games

[akcolt]

That Kansas City playoff game says otherwise. Luck gave him a chance on that 20 yard bomb and trusted him to go up and get it over the CB, and he did just that. His potential isn't like a Stephen Hill for example. He's actually demonstrated it. Most of the plays he makes are always big plays as well.

It was a 46 yard pass and the only catch he had in the two playoff games on a whopping 6 targets 2 drops I remember for sure and then the lazy route int vs NE. So 1 catch proves what again?

 

I am not saying he doesn't have potential but he has a lot to work on and we can only keep 53 give me Purifoy Kerr Whalen Burley Muamba all over him. He is in the 46-55 player range. I think we keep him but its not a lock and he is certainly nothing like Michael Irvin on the football field that comparison is a complete joke.

[John Dee]

The BILLS cut this guy right off the bat,  Indy has tried A LOT to try to help this clown "get it"   ....   he just doesn't ..  

 

IMO making him play very deep into the last pre season game was a "test" ...    a maturity test.     And he failed.  

 

This dude is entitled and it does not look to change anytime soon.      He is just not a winning football player.    

 

The Colts kicked the tires...  now it's time to move on.    

 

I mean wth if he can't beat out Griff Whalen then????    HHEEEEEHHHEE 

 

Griff wants it,   DaBrick thinks he deserves it.  

This kid had HUGE issues coming out of college, he hasn't done a single freaking thing but celebrate too much on one occasion? (let's not kid ourselves, it's preseason) I think he's done wonderfully considering.
You know he'd never make it to the PS. You're all blowing this way out of proportion.

[Mameluc]

Who cares?! If he produces, which he has by scoring the only TD today, then it shouldn't matter. Dez Bryant acts like this a lot, and no one says anything. Rogers has shown plenty more than a "few nice plays", but keep doubting him. Big plays and scores with Luck against Cincy and KC, a TD with Hassebeck and even a TD with Harnish and that putrid o-line, who cant even buy Harnish enough time to make throws to Rogers. What more do you people want?

 

Rogers has the size, athleticism, speed, body control you want in a starting receiver. He hasn't been here for long, but he has already shown he's more than capable of being a playmaker in the NFL. Give him more time with Luck and he'll continue to show it. 

 

I also completely understand why he is *. I'd be * too if my rival got the luxury of playing with the starters thus making HIM look good, while I was being featured with a horrible QB (yes, it's Harnish I'm talking about) and putrid o-line.

 

rogers has 3 catchs worth mentioning...2 you just posted. was cut by the bills and was undrafted

 

Dez has years of production a number 1 pick and like 1000 yards per season the last 3

 

 

yea, gl

[John Dee]

I don't think so... 

 

Listened to the post game show with Rak and Brackett  and they both thought before the game he was a "lock" .. 

 

NOW,  they both think he is gone.     If the OL was not so banged up he 'might" have a chance ... but roster spots are GOLD and a 6th WR..    (YES he is the SIXTH WR on this team) ....  and that last spot will go to a need position.    Not a luxury position.

 

He is cut.

Rogers Still makes the team, Moncrief is the receiver who has been a little let down for me, that uncertainty should keep Rogers on board

[Buck Showalter]

Uh, hey Browns, you still want the guy???Uh, how about D'Rick & a sugar cream pie for Mack???

[GoColts8818]

I think it might very well cost him a spot on this roster.

 

Whalen did not play tonight and Rogers played a lot.  Historically speaking if you play in the last pre-season game that means the coaches are taking one last long look at you to decide if they should cut you or not.  I also think the fact that Whalen didn't even play is very telling.  By all accounts he's healthy and the only other guys to miss time tonight that were healthy were guys who had already made the team.  So I think Whalen has made the team which means Rogers roster spot might very well come down too does the Colts keep six WRs or not.  If they don't he could very well be the odd man out. 

 

Before people flip out on that I'd say if he's released it will be for three reasons.

 

1.  Numbers.  If we don't keep six WRs it could very well be because we have a major need at another position.  A good example might very well be the o-line.  The Colts are pretty thin there especially with Reitz's injury tonight so they might need the extra body there.

 

2.  Special Teams.  Normally when you are talking about the fifth or sixth WR on a team you are looking for a guy who can play special teams because that's what they are going to be doing most of the season.  Whalen has proven he can play special teams pretty well and that might tilt the odds in his favor.

 

3.  Stupidity.  This isn't the first time Rogers has been flagged for doing something stupid that has hurt his football team.  He also has a past that has some very bad decisions.  This could be a case of where doing dumb things that hurt your football team trumps talent. 

 

Now with this all said someone had to play WR tonight.  It might be Rogers is number six and they are going to keep him anyways so they threw him out there.  So he could very well still make this roster but I don't think it's nearly the lock some think it is.

[TKnight24]

This kid had HUGE issues coming out of college, he hasn't done a single freaking thing but celebrate too much on one occasion? (let's not kid ourselves, it's preseason) I think he's done wonderfully considering.

You know he'd never make it to the PS. You're all blowing this way out of proportion.

More than 1 occasion

1. Last night's game

2. Colts @ Chiefs (December) last year: Roger's draws a PI penalty then proceeds to dance/taunt the CB the was thrown on

There's more that slip my mind at the moment but the kid is immature nonetheless. Showboat, One man team, Show-Off, Conceited, Arrogant, Feel free to stop me anytime

[C0LT5]

He is prolly frustrated becuase he hasn't been getting many chances this game due to O line and quarterback play!

BUT if he is that immature I am okay with getting rid of him!! I would much rather get something out of him if we did let him go! I would only be okay if we did get something decent out of him.

There have got to be desperate teams that will give us a 4th or possibly better.

 

No way can we get a fourth for him.

[HtownColt]

Peyton Manning's stupidity baffles me

[TKnight24]

I think it might very well cost him a spot on this roster.

Whalen did not play tonight and Rogers played a lot. Historically speaking if you play in the last pre-season game that means the coaches are taking one last long look at you to decide if they should cut you or not. I also think the fact that Whalen didn't even play is very telling. By all accounts he's healthy and the only other guys to miss time tonight that were healthy were guys who had already made the team. So I think Whalen has made the team which means Rogers roster spot might very well come down too does the Colts keep six WRs or not. If they don't he could very well be the odd man out.

Before people flip out on that I'd say if he's released it will be for three reasons.

1. Numbers. If we don't keep six WRs it could very well be because we have a major need at another position. A good example might very well be the o-line. The Colts are pretty thin there especially with Reitz's injury tonight so they might need the extra body there.

2. Special Teams. Normally when you are talking about the fifth or sixth WR on a team you are looking for a guy who can play special teams because that's what they are going to be doing most of the season. Whalen has proven he can play special teams pretty well and that might tilt the odds in his favor.

3. Stupidity. This isn't the first time Rogers has been flagged for doing something stupid that has hurt his football team. He also has a past that has some very bad decisions. This could be a case of where doing dumb things that hurt your football team trumps talent.

Now with this all said someone had to play WR tonight. It might be Rogers is number six and they are going to keep him anyways so they threw him out there. So he could very well still make this roster but I don't think it's nearly the lock some think it is.

It's not even the fact Griff Whalen didn't play, it's the fashion in which the decision happened

Whalen like Andrew and a few other starters were dressed and practicing a bit pregame. Pagano himself came over to Whalen and told him he had the night off

Whalen is making the 53. Bank on it. Go to bed, wake up, Whalen is still gonna be here

Take a nap, wake up, Whalen still here

Go to work, take a lunch break, argue with a coworker, go home, Whalen still here

[BlueShoe]

This thread smells of major FAIL!

 

The OP needs a nap.

[GoColts8818]

It's not even the fact Griff Whalen didn't play, it's the fashion in which the decision happened

Whalen like Andrew and a few other starters were dressed and practicing a bit pregame. Pagano himself came over to Whalen and told him he had the night off

Whalen is making the 53. Bank on it. Go to bed, wake up, Whalen is still gonna be here

Take a nap, wake up, Whalen still here

Go to work, take a lunch break, argue with a coworker, go home, Whalen still here

why is that a bad thing? Whalen has been a good player here.

[Nobody]

The BILLS cut this guy right off the bat,  Indy has tried A LOT to try to help this clown "get it"   ....   he just doesn't ..  

 

IMO making him play very deep into the last pre season game was a "test" ...    a maturity test.     And he failed.  

 

This dude is entitled and it does not look to change anytime soon.      He is just not a winning football player.    

 

The Colts kicked the tires...  now it's time to move on.    

 

I mean wth if he can't beat out Griff Whalen then????    HHEEEEEHHHEE 

 

Griff wants it,   DaBrick thinks he deserves it.

You're delusional lol

[Nobody]

More than 1 occasion

1. Last night's game

2. Colts @ Chiefs (December) last year: Roger's draws a PI penalty then proceeds to dance/taunt the CB the was thrown on

There's more that slip my mind at the moment but the kid is immature nonetheless. Showboat, One man team, Show-Off, Conceited, Arrogant, Feel free to stop me anytime

LOL

Tonights game was preseason.

No, there are not more incidents that you just "can't remember"

He SHOWBOATED ONCE. Throw around *ic insults all you want, it makes 0 sense.

[TKnight24]

why is that a bad thing? Whalen has been a good player here.

Not a bad thing, it's a sure thing.

You said "I think Whalen has made the team"

All I did was jump into your corner, hand you a glass of apple juice, and let you know it's a guarantee Whalen made the team. Everybody's happy now!

(Except those who want Rogers over Whalen)

[TKnight24]

LOL

Tonights game was preseason.

No, there are not more incidents that you just "can't remember"

He SHOWBOATED ONCE. Throw around *ic insults all you want, it makes 0 sense.

I just listed 2 times there. How did he only do it once?