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Manning will have to answer questions about that Super Bowl this entire season. I think he will use it as fuel but not sure about his team. Some guys move on, some don't.

Eh, most nfl players brush aside questions like that. They are only focused on the game at hand. The last decade I have watched the Patriots beat up on garbage during season and lose when it counts. In 2011 Brady went 13-3 and never beat one good team and lost to a Giants team with NO business being in the SB. At least losing to the Seahawks was understandable. They were picked to win from day one by many.

 

Hopefully when Manning answers the questions, he does not pout like a child and say he is not going to watch football (re Brady).

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Lol I thought the thread title said moving on after 2014. Though I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way he goes, especially if he somehow ends up getting his second ring this year. I don't think it is fair to expect him to blow every stat out of the water again but the Broncos are ready to win more games and factor in the postseason again.

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"I don't really have a word for it," Manning said. "Obviously it was disappointing. We will use that to fuel us this offseason and hopefully it will make us better. The front office has addressed some offseason needs via free agency, and of course the draft is coming up." 

 

Peyton says all the right things & part of me applauds him for doing his best to put that crushing SB in the rearview mirror, but man that is a tough memory to erase from your brain completely 43-8. How do you regroup as a team & sweep that monumental loss under the rug with no lingering residual effects, especially when your off season is so short & everybody on the active roster is banged up & exhausted? 

 

One of my favorite sports movies is "For The Love Of The Game" in which Kevin Costner plays a Detroit Tigers baseball pitcher named Billy Chapel reflects on his entire career & throws a perfect game at the mound before retiring from the game completely. He recollects on all the mistakes he made in life, his teammates along the way, & his attempt to shut out all the doubters & naysayers on the diamond by repeating the phrase "clear the mechanism" more than once. In a nutshell, Billy is just trying to focus, concentrate, & let all the outside criticism just disappear & melt away. 

 

That's what 18 is trying to do essentially "clear the mechanism" & focus only on what stands before him not what transpired behind him & his teammates in February. I apologize for mixing sports genres here baseball and football as well as a fictional film to a real event, but I do worry how Manning can put the SB loss behind him so quickly though. 1 SB victory under his belt & 2 big dance appearances. Does he have 1 more SB victory in him given the nice new pieces that Denver has now obtained? I won't root against Peyton, but 4 trips to the NFL Promiseland is a tall order to climb, especially since INDY is poised to leap forward, the Texans are 1 franchise QB away from doing some serious post season damage, & Philip Rivers & company showed me something this past season: They are ready to play spoiler & defy the odds. 

 

Can Peyton & company cross the finish line? Sigh...I'm not as confident as I once was...

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Does Denver have enough defensive prowess to knock off Seattle right now should they get back to the SB? Honestly, no. The Niners? Doubtful. Hades even AZ would be tough to knock off if Carson Palmer is protected. 

 

I'm not trying to be a downer here. I just think even with a Hawks rematch that the Pacific NW is just an animal of a different NFL breed that no other team can neutralize right now. JMO. 

 

I may have underestimated the strength of Seattle's defense once, but SW1 never makes the same mistake twice. I have a newfound appreciation for just how dangerous that DL is. 

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Short term memory is why some of these pros are excellent pros.

 

I remember Pete Sampras saying the key to being consistent and continuing to make plays in any match is to have a short term memory. Learn from your mistakes but don't get stuck in them. It almost applies to several sports where one play here and there changes the complexion of a game, whether it is basketball or baseball or tennis, you name it.

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Does Denver have enough defensive prowess to knock off Seattle right now should they get back to the SB? Honestly, no. The Niners? Doubtful. Hades even AZ would be tough to knock off if Carson Palmer is protected. 

 

I'm not trying to be a downer here. I just think even with a Hawks rematch that the Pacific NW is just an animal of a different NFL breed that no other team can neutralize right now. JMO. 

 

I may have underestimated the strength of Seattle's defense once, but SW1 never makes the same mistake twice. I have a newfound appreciation for just how dangerous that DL is. 

I disagree. I think Seattle would be favorites but to think that Denver can't win that game to me is silly. If they play a really good game they have plenty of offense to be competant. I mean we beat Seattle...while I agree Denver got slapped around I think they will be better prepared for the physicality of Seattle...and likely improved with their defense with their off-season and got back a pro bowl left tackle. I'm not saying Denver is better...but I fully think they are more than capable of winning. Put together a good game plan and execute...SURE they could win...as could almost any team in the NFL. To me just because Seattle won a beat down..doesn't mean they are 30 pt favorites or better team. Denver really played their worst game in 2 years and Seattle caused a lot of that but they just didn't look insync at all with their calls. I expect a good regular season game between the two this year.

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He knows that was the last shot he had at winning one.

 

Denver won't even come close next year now that they aren't playing a super cupcake fest schedule.

 

Can only pray to see both the Pats and Donkeys fall flat on their faces half way through the season.

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Manning will have to answer questions about that Super Bowl this entire season. I think he will use it as fuel but not sure about his team. Some guys move on, some don't.

 

 

No he won't. Did he have to answer for that bad pick 6 a few years ago? Not at all. They just act like it never happened, much like his fanbase does now both of those epic sorry performances in the big dance. Denver is still the greatest team ever and he's still the GOAT.

 

I'm sure if it was Brady or Brees, we'd never stop hearing about it, but you're rarely ever going to hear about that lay down in the SB next season cause it was the GOAT.

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No he won't. Did he have to answer for that bad pick 6 a few years ago? Not at all. They just act like it never happened, much like his fanbase does now both of those epic sorry performances in the big dance. Denver is still the greatest team ever and he's still the GOAT.

I'm sure if it was Brady or Brees, we'd never stop hearing about it, but you're rarely ever going to hear about that lay down in the SB next season cause it was the GOAT.

Jealously looks good on you

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I'm sure if it was Brady or Brees, we'd never stop hearing about it, but you're rarely ever going to hear about that lay down in the SB next season cause it was the GOAT.

 It's almost like your having a conversation on a colts forum with colts fans...        lol

 

 

Do you see many people on the Pats forum that think Brady is the GOAT?     Yes

How about people on the Saints forum thinking Brees is the best?     Yes

 

Weird huh....

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He knows that was the last shot he had at winning one.

 

Denver won't even come close next year now that they aren't playing a super cupcake fest schedule.

 

Can only pray to see both the Pats and Donkeys fall flat on their faces half way through the season.

 

Camelot is going to end one of these years.......

 

2014 could be interesting.....already is.

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I disagree. I think Seattle would be favorites but to think that Denver can't win that game to me is silly. If they play a really good game they have plenty of offense to be competant. I mean we beat Seattle...while I agree Denver got slapped around I think they will be better prepared for the physicality of Seattle...and likely improved with their defense with their off-season and got back a pro bowl left tackle. I'm not saying Denver is better...but I fully think they are more than capable of winning. Put together a good game plan and execute...SURE they could win...as could almost any team in the NFL. To me just because Seattle won a beat down..doesn't mean they are 30 pt favorites or better team. Denver really played their worst game in 2 years and Seattle caused a lot of that but they just didn't look insync at all with their calls. I expect a good regular season game between the two this year.

Once you get knocked around silly like a punch drunk fighter in the ring by an opponent that manhandled you as a team, I really don't know how easily you shake that residue off. If anyone can rise above it & overcome a glaring setback Peyton surely can. That Pacific NW defense is legit & my central thesis was about any NFC rival squad knocking Seattle off it's perch which has nothing to do with the Colts period. 

 

Seattle will be back & if Denver returns I'm not seeing a different SB outcome personally. 

 

"To me just because Seattle won a beat down..doesn't mean they are 30 pt favorites or better team" The winner of an SB has a high probability of returning & RW & Pete Carroll won't be full of themselves & lazy either. They will work even harder now to prove they belong at the top of the NFL mountain. 

 

The aggressor swings harder to beat you into submission once again. Seattle has the alpha dog swag right now & they refuse to relinquish anything peacefully. Seattle was the enforcer they won the war of intimidation & attrition plain & simple. 

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Manning will have to answer questions about that Super Bowl this entire season. I think he will use it as fuel but not sure about his team. Some guys move on, some don't.

No doubt......especially since a lot of the guys who lost are no longer with the team..

 

.....That's why they pay him the big bucks..

 

....Its fair.....He should speak for the team

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He knows that was the last shot he had at winning one.

 

Denver won't even come close next year now that they aren't playing a super cupcake fest schedule.

 

Can only pray to see both the Pats and Donkeys fall flat on their faces half way through the season.

Every year..Manning is too old...too hurt...cant do it...Every year..

 

Rag arm...defenses have caught up to him.......one-and-done...schedule is too tough....

 

You hear it every year....

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Always the professional, knowing what to say and how to say it. Class Act. 

 

I hope he gets a chance for one more title....unless he's playing the Colts....then it's back to "GET HIM"!!!! 

Me to, LollyG..

 

I seriously didn't want to see a Denver-Indy playoff game and its only been luck that's prevented it the last 2 years

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Once you get knocked around silly like a punch drunk fighter in the ring by an opponent that manhandled you as a team, I really don't know how easily you shake that residue off. If anyone can rise above it & overcome a glaring setback Peyton surely can. That Pacific NW defense is legit & my central thesis was about any NFC rival squad knocking Seattle off it's perch which has nothing to do with the Colts period. 

 

Seattle will be back & if Denver returns I'm not seeing a different SB outcome personally. 

 

"To me just because Seattle won a beat down..doesn't mean they are 30 pt favorites or better team" The winner of an SB has a high probability of returning & RW & Pete Carroll won't be full of themselves & lazy either. They will work even harder now to prove they belong at the top of the NFL mountain. 

 

The aggressor swings harder to beat you into submission once again. Seattle has the alpha dog swag right now & they refuse to relinquish anything peacefully. Seattle was the enforcer they won the war of intimidation & attrition plain & simple. 

SF got a beat down early in the year against Seattle and came back and won their home meeting and almost won the playoff game. Fact is while Seattle has the best team in football...they are beatable. It comes down to executing a great game plan and having the fire power on both sides of the ball to win.....Denver has that...doesn't mean they will win but they are not 30 pt dogs. That was the worst performance they could have put up...and it happened. They play 10 times I think Denver wins 4 out of 10...some close...some blow outs...perhaps Denver might blow Seattle out. If Denver doesn't have those two ints, give up a kick return, that game is immensely closer...maybe they don't win but close. They gave up a safety, 3 turnovers basically, kick return...I mean what didn't they do wrong. I don't think that outcome happens again in a 100 tries. If Denver plays a clean game and forces a turnover themselves...or even a punt lol...I mean we all know they were better than they showed. It was an embarrassing loss and I disagree with Peyton saying it wasn't...but it has to hurt to put forth such an effort all season..play so well to have that one bad game happen in the SB. I do think they will have a bit of a haze this year...and probably won't be a #1 seed. I think to get back they got to go to Foxboro...and that will be hard.

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And Denver's not nearly as talented as SF.

Face it, Seattle flat out beat the bejeezus out of Denver. They beat them in every way possible. Mentally. Physically, coaching, game planning, you name it. As soon as I saw Kam Chancellor crush the Denver receiver on the first drive after the safety I knew the game was going to be a blow out. Denver wanted no part of Seattle from that play on. They got flat out punked. And they won't get over it any time soon.

That was the most uncompetitive Super Bowl ever played. Others have been lopsided, but never has a team been completely humiliated like that in a championship game. That was brutal. Seattle would win 10 of 10 against Denver.

When I saw how loose Seattle was the week prior and heard they planned to simply play their base defense and offense and change nothing, I figured Manning was not going to even finish the game. I was surprised he made it through the game un-injured. I was also surprised that Lynch didn't run for 100+ yards on that soft defense. Of course who knows what he would have done had they needed him.

Denver's not going to get over that beat down especially when they are going to get slapped around by them again next season.

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SF got a beat down early in the year against Seattle and came back and won their home meeting and almost won the playoff game. Fact is while Seattle has the best team in football...they are beatable. It comes down to executing a great game plan and having the fire power on both sides of the ball to win.....Denver has that...doesn't mean they will win but they are not 30 pt dogs. That was the worst performance they could have put up...and it happened. They play 10 times I think Denver wins 4 out of 10...some close...some blow outs...perhaps Denver might blow Seattle out. If Denver doesn't have those two ints, give up a kick return, that game is immensely closer...maybe they don't win but close. They gave up a safety, 3 turnovers basically, kick return...I mean what didn't they do wrong. I don't think that outcome happens again in a 100 tries. If Denver plays a clean game and forces a turnover themselves...or even a punt lol...I mean we all know they were better than they showed. It was an embarrassing loss and I disagree with Peyton saying it wasn't...but it has to hurt to put forth such an effort all season..play so well to have that one bad game happen in the SB. I do think they will have a bit of a haze this year...and probably won't be a #1 seed. I think to get back they got to go to Foxboro...and that will be hard.

Will Denver win 12 or 13 games this season? Sure. Do I see the Niners & Seattle colliding in the NFC Championship Game again? Probably. I will concede that any given Sunday any team can fall even Seattle, but with a Championship cache fresh in February, the Hawks are just oozing with the been there done that confidence. It reminds me of when Steve Young & the 49er's stomped the San Diego Chargers in 1995 49-26 at the SB. HC Bobby Ross disappeared after that lopsided loss to the Detroit Lions into NFL obscurity, Stan Humphries was their QB who was never clutch after that defeat, & that franchise never recovered until Drew Brees was drafted by the Chargers in 2001. 

 

Will Manning disappear? No, of course not, but it's hard to get past a beat down when you are constantly reminded of how the best NFL offense got whipped with Seattle victory parades, the ring ceremony, & all the NFL pundits talking about their repeat Lombardi prospects. I remember WR Reggie Wayne taking about the 2009 SB loss to the Saints once. He said you can't put it behind you when all you ever see is that botched onside kick fiasco. Losing on the biggest stage in sports sucks & when you get smacked around like a rag doll. I just can't see how that horrific memory ever leaves or escapes you. 

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I was happy to see the Broncos get humiliated. I used to live there and they have the most obnoxious fan base in the NFL bar none. They deserved the beating they got. I'm going back to Denver Friday to visit friends and family. I might buy a seahawk sweatshirt and wear it one day just for kicks.

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They were picked to win from day one by many

Actually they were picked to win it by very few. It is true that most people had Denver and Seattle picked all season long, but most picked Denver to win easily. Even up until the kickoff most had Denver winning, but now they were saying it was going to be close.

I guess that's why the games aren't played on paper.

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Short term memory is why some of these pros are excellent pros.

 

I remember Pete Sampras saying the key to being consistent and continuing to make plays in any match is to have a short term memory. Learn from your mistakes but don't get stuck in them. It almost applies to several sports where one play here and there changes the complexion of a game, whether it is basketball or baseball or tennis, you name it.

Did Pete Sampras say that after losing Wimbledon to Andre Agassi in 1992? The most coveted trophy in professional Tennis? No, he did not. A match is 1 thing; a Grand Slam Title in the pinnacle of your profession is entirely different Chad. 

 

You wouldn't compare a devastating regular season loss to the SB would you? No, I wouldn't think so either. 

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No he won't. Did he have to answer for that bad pick 6 a few years ago? Not at all. They just act like it never happened, much like his fanbase does now both of those epic sorry performances in the big dance. Denver is still the greatest team ever and he's still the GOAT.

 

I'm sure if it was Brady or Brees, we'd never stop hearing about it, but you're rarely ever going to hear about that lay down in the SB next season cause it was the GOAT.

I am not sure how much of the NFL network or ESPN you watched last year toward the end of the regular season or the post-season but they were brutal with Manning. They kept brining up the Ravens loss and all his one and done's to the point that they all convinced themselves that the Chargers would beat him in Denver. When he beat the Chargers and stepped to the podium, they didn't even acknowledge the win which was sealed by him with a great third and long conversion. Instead they immediately asked him about playing Brady. And then when he beat Brady, all the talk was how he HAD to win the Super Bowl to be the greatest. And of course now they have been killing him over the SB loss. I realize that this criticism comes with being who he is and the success he has but I really think this season may be rough. I can only imagine how often the SB will be brought up especially since they play Seattle this year. Manning will handle it but I question his teammates who will have to deal with it as they try to put that game behind them and focus on 2014.

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He knows that was the last shot he had at winning one.

 

Denver won't even come close next year now that they aren't playing a super cupcake fest schedule.

 

Can only pray to see both the Pats and Donkeys fall flat on their faces half way through the season.

I would be MUCH more worried about the Panthers if I was you.

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No he won't. Did he have to answer for that bad pick 6 a few years ago? Not at all. They just act like it never happened, much like his fanbase does now both of those epic sorry performances in the big dance. Denver is still the greatest team ever and he's still the GOAT.

 

I'm sure if it was Brady or Brees, we'd never stop hearing about it, but you're rarely ever going to hear about that lay down in the SB next season cause it was the GOAT.

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Eh, most nfl players brush aside questions like that. They are only focused on the game at hand. The last decade I have watched the Patriots beat up on garbage during season and lose when it counts. In 2011 Brady went 13-3 and never beat one good team and lost to a Giants team with NO business being in the SB. At least losing to the Seahawks was understandable. They were picked to win from day one by many.

Hopefully when Manning answers the questions, he does not pout like a child and say he is not going to watch football (re Brady).

Manning acted like a baby after the SB with kid childish response to questions .
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The media will hold onto it but Denver players will just say, "It's a new year, we've moved on" and that's about it. Once camp starts other storylines will come up and eventually 2013 will be in everyone's rear-view. It will come up in preseason analyses/predictions and then again when the playoffs kick off. If Denver makes it to the SB again we'll hear more of it. In between though, probably not so much. 

 

The issue here isn't having to deal with the media, it's recovering mentally from that beat-down and trying to get back on track. That's the problem with losing the "last game" of the year... you have between 6 and 8 months to think about it, and can't just turn the page to "next week." Denver didn't even look like they belonged on the same field as Seattle, and losing in that manner is harder to bounce back from than a heartbreaking nail-biter, I would think.

 

Personally I believe the Broncos will respond favorably... they may not go 13-3 again but there's no scenario I can see where they're not a major factor in the AFC. 

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No he won't. Did he have to answer for that bad pick 6 a few years ago? Not at all. They just act like it never happened, much like his fanbase does now both of those epic sorry performances in the big dance. Denver is still the greatest team ever and he's still the GOAT.

 

I'm sure if it was Brady or Brees, we'd never stop hearing about it, but you're rarely ever going to hear about that lay down in the SB next season cause it was the GOAT.

 

Again, 

 

Why are you even on a Colts forum? 

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The last decade I have watched the Patriots beat up on garbage during season and lose when it counts. In 2011 Brady went 13-3 and never beat one good team and lost to a Giants team with NO business being in the SB. At least losing to the Seahawks was understandable. They were picked to win from day one by many.

 

Hopefully when Manning answers the questions, he does not pout like a child and say he is not going to watch football (re Brady).

 

What does this have to do with the 2013 Broncos?

 

I think it's funny that so many opposing fans had issues with Brady saying he wasn't going to watch the Super Bowl after losing the AFCCG. Mostly the same people who, as fans, take it as seriously as death, but then fail to realize how much more vested you would be in it if you were out there on the field. Brady's a competitor, and losing sucks... few deal with it gracefully, and those who do the most winning usually have the hardest time with losing. I don't blame him for not wanting to watch a game when he probably still believed in his heart that he should have been playing in it. 

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Manning acted like a baby after the SB with kid childish response to questions .

 

 

no he didn't

I won't say that Manning acted like a baby after the SB loss to Seattle. More like #18 seemed insulted by the question of were you embarrassed by your overall game performance? Look, I know how hard Peyton worked to get there to the Promiseland a 3rd time & no one wants to come up short. I get that. I was just shocked that 18 conveyed the impression through his body language that the question was somehow below the belt & out of bounds on some sort of decency scale. It wasn't. 

 

I respect Manning & I always will, but his reaction to the embarrassment question critiquing his SB performance was not his finest hour of being a professional HOF QB. Frankly, I get the pride angle, the let me lick my wounds angle, & the look what Denver achieved this year angle, but at the end of the day Manning should not have been insulted by that question & I expected him to say "Tonight, I wasn't good enough to win this game & Seattle took us out to the woodshed for a good ole fashioned beat down. Am I happy about this? Of course not. Do I bear some responsibility in this 1 sided loss? Yes, I do. Do I respect my teammates? Absolutely. Will Denver be back in the thick of things next season? Of course. We all have some heavy lifting to do though myself included." 

 

Champions are defined by what they do when they lose. Now, Peyton is always gracious in his remarks that will never change, but when you lose I expect you to take your lumps, face the firing squad media, & not duck any relevant questions. It's because of 18 global stature & losing on the world's biggest stage in sports that Manning's response to the performance question saddens me. No one gets a pardon. There is no diplomatic immunity clause from scrutiny here & I would expect more from the most cerebral QB in the NFL today. 

 

Am I angry with Peyton? I'm just perplexed & bewildered thinking that it's okay to avoid answering a relevant question. I don't care how big you are as a celebrity. We all have a horrible day at the office sometimes, but you need to own it & admit that you got your clock cleaned, didn't do enough to win, & just say yep my execution just awful tonight. No other way around it. Do that & I admire your candor & honesty, but if you display fake outrage at the question & use your teammates as a shield to falsely claim that the media is disrespecting them. I am frustrated by that scapegoat response. JMO. 

 

Peyton is still a HOF QB who dropped the ball in his post game press conference. A tiny blip on the radar screen that I won't crucify him for other than to say just own your losses even a SB one that's all. 

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I won't say that Manning acted like a baby after the SB loss to Seattle. More like #18 seemed insulted by the question of were you embarrassed by your overall game performance? Look, I know how hard Peyton worked to get there to the Promiseland a 3rd time & no one wants to come up short. I get that. I was just shocked that 18 conveyed the impression through his body language that the question was somehow below the belt & out of bounds on some sort of decency scale. It wasn't. 

 

I respect Manning & I always will, but his reaction to the embarrassment question critiquing his SB performance was not his finest hour of being a professional HOF QB. Frankly, I get the pride angle, the let me lick my wounds angle, & the look what Denver achieved this year angle, but at the end of the day Manning should not have been insulted by that question & I expected him to say "Tonight, I wasn't good enough to win this game & Seattle took us out to the woodshed for a good ole fashioned beat down. Am I happy about this? Of course not. Do I bear some responsibility in this 1 sided loss? Yes, I do. Do I respect my teammates? Absolutely. Will Denver be back in the thick of things next season? Of course. We all have some heavy lifting to do though myself included." 

 

Champions are defined by what they do when they lose. Now, Peyton is always gracious in his remarks that will never change, but when you lose I expect you to take your lumps, face the firing squad media, & not duck any relevant questions. It's because of 18 global stature & losing on the world's biggest stage in sports that Manning's response to the performance question saddens me. No one gets a pardon. There is no diplomatic immunity clause from scrutiny here & I would expect more from the most cerebral QB in the NFL today. 

 

Am I angry with Peyton? I'm just perplexed & bewildered thinking that it's okay to avoid answering a relevant question. I don't care how big you are as a celebrity. We all have a horrible day at the office sometimes, but you need to own it & admit that you got your clock cleaned, didn't do enough to win, & just say yep my execution just awful tonight. No other way around it. Do that & I admire your candor & honesty, but if you display fake outrage at the question & use your teammates as a shield to falsely claim that the media is disrespecting them. I am frustrated by that scapegoat response. JMO. 

 

Peyton is still a HOF QB who dropped the ball in his post game press conference. A tiny blip on the radar screen that I won't crucify him for other than to say just own your losses even a SB one that's all. 

That is pretty much how I felt as well SW1. I thought Manning backed out of a question he should have been expecting. Even his own teammates categorized the game as embarrassing. Not sure if he was just trying to deflect or what but I was disappointed overall with his press conference. I was expecting more from him.

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Can only pray to see both the Pats and Donkeys fall flat on their faces half way through the season.

 

Funny, I feel the same way about the Saints.

 

Difference is that I don't go around whining about it and save my prayers for more important things in life.  .

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