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Most of everyone knows that Bleacher Report ranks players during the offseason at every position..

For the OLB they did a top 35. I think you will find the first one at #35 suprising.

At #35 Erik Walden

67/100 points total

At #1 THE Robert Mathis.

92/100 points total

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Most of everyone knows that Bleacher Report ranks players during the offseason at every position..

For the OLB they did a top 35. I think you will find the first one at #35 suprising.

At #35 Erik Walden

67/100 points total

At #1 THE Robert Mathis.

92/100 points total

 

Yeah....   I saw that too this morning....    (bad, bad night of sleep!)

 

We have the best -- Mathis.

 

And we have the worst -- Walden.

 

At least, according to BR

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Yeah.... I saw that too this morning.... (bad, bad night of sleep!)

We have the best -- Mathis.

And we have the worst -- Walden.

At least, according to BR

Well Walden isn't technically the worst... This is just Top 35 so really he is the 35th best OLB according to BR.. I'm pretty sure there are more than 35 starting OLBs haha

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Jerry Hughes is there in the middle.

 

I don't care what anyone says, we never gave Hughes a chance.  You put Hughes on a team without pass rushers, and he does well enough to make a list like that, in the middle of the pack no less.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2025929-br-nfl-1000-top-35-3-4-outside-linebackers/page/19

 

You put him on a team with Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis... and then gripe and moan that he doesn't produce.  How anyone gets into a groove when they're getting less than 5-10 snaps a game is beyond me.

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Jerry Hughes is there in the middle.

 

I don't care what anyone says, we never gave Hughes a chance.  You put Hughes on a team without pass rushers, and he does well enough to make a list like that, in the middle of the pack no less.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2025929-br-nfl-1000-top-35-3-4-outside-linebackers/page/19

 

You put him on a team with Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis... and then gripe and moan that he doesn't produce.  How anyone gets into a groove when they're getting less than 5-10 snaps a game is beyond me.

 

Buffalo is stacked with pass rushers. Mario Williams, Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus.

 

The problem was that he was a natural fit for OLB and played DE basically his entire time here. Then he get's put into a 3-4 and produces 6 sacks in limited action. 

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Well Walden isn't technically the worst... This is just Top 35 so really he is the 35th best OLB according to BR.. I'm pretty sure there are more than 35 starting OLBs haha

 

Actually,  it was the 35 best OLB's in a 3-4 defense.

 

They're not including all the OLB's who play in a 4-3.

 

So...............

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Most of everyone knows that Bleacher Report ranks players during the offseason at every position..

For the OLB they did a top 35. I think you will find the first one at #35 suprising.

At #35 Erik Walden

67/100 points total

At #1 THE Robert Mathis.

92/100 points total

 

Walden improved late in the season and this year he will be playing beside considerably more talent.

Wish him well.

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Actually, it was the 35 best OLB's in a 3-4 defense.

They're not including all the OLB's who play in a 4-3.

So...............

Actually....... Your correct on that! ;) but that is interesting.. Wonder how many starting 3-4 OLBs there actually are
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Buffalo is stacked with pass rushers. Mario Williams, Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus.

 

The problem was that he was a natural fit for OLB and played DE basically his entire time here. Then he get's put into a 3-4 and produces 6 sacks in limited action. 

 

This is troubling, because Werner is the exact opposite. He's supposed to be DE and here he's playing OLB. 

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Buffalo is stacked with pass rushers. Mario Williams, Kyle Williams, Marcell Dareus.

 

The problem was that he was a natural fit for OLB and played DE basically his entire time here. Then he get's put into a 3-4 and produces 6 sacks in limited action. 

 

What?  Mario Williams I get.  Williams and Dareus are both big interior guys.  Dareus is basically a NT, and Williams is a high motor guy.  But all in all, neither one of those two is affecting Hughes playing time as they are in completely different positions with completely different skill sets.

 

Hughes was a pass rusher.  Be it 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB.  He got 4 sacks for us in 2012.  He gets 10 for Buffalo in 2013.  The guy needed opportunities which are EXTREMELY hard to come by when you play behind Freeney and Mathis, which he did in 2012.  Be honest... it's 3rd and long and you want to generate a pass rush with 2 rushers between Mathis, Freeney, and Hughes.  9 out of 10 times Hughes goes to the bench, and the other time he's simply in to give one of the others a breather on a long drive or when the game is sealed.

 

I think trading out Hughes was a mistake, IMO.  Not a big one, but a mistake.  We finally let Freeney walk, and then we get rid of the guy who never got a chance.  Instead of Wjerner, we could have drafted Te'o.  And I won't say that Te'o should have been picked, but he's probably an upgrade over Shepherd (the guy we traded Hughes for).  Our defense likely would've been better as a result.

 

All of this is pie in the sky talk, I know, but I find it funny that Hughes had 10 sacks last season and was written off by most Colts fans.  He's succeeding now because he doesn't have two stud DEs/OLBs in front of him.

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Yeah.... I saw that too this morning.... (bad, bad night of sleep!)

We have the best -- Mathis.

And we have the worst -- Walden.

At least, according to BR

It's his top 35 3-4 OLB, there are more than 35 3-4 OLBs in the league so walden isn't the worst

Whitney Mercilus, Courtney Upshaw, Brooks Reed, Melvin Ingram, Rob Jackson etc didn't even make the list

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Give me a break. Jerry Hughes sucked with us from day one to day gone. If you're a good player you show up even if you have a smaller role. He was given plenty oppertunities but he sucked too much to earn more playing time. Look at Seattle, they have a plethora of pass rushing talent and use them all.

His year with the Bills was much better than anything he showed us. Good for him but history tells us he wouldn't have done that had he remained a Colt. I don't know if he wasn't happy in Indy or the trade was a wake up call for him or what, but don't act like Hughes was ever better than below average for us.

Hey, who am I? Speed rush and get pushed past the QB. Next play, speed rush and get pushed by the QB. Next play, speed rush and get pushed by the QB. Get unblocked, QB releases the ball, I run into him with my face in the worst looking nonform tackle/hit ever seen and get flagged for personal foul late hit.

I'm happy Jerry (seemingly) got his % together in Buffalo but I'm also happy we no longer have to deal with the underachieving useless Jerry Hughes that was a Colt.

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It's his top 35 3-4 OLB, there are more than 35 3-4 OLBs in the league so walden isn't the worst

Whitney Mercilus, Courtney Upshaw, Brooks Reed, Melvin Ingram, Rob Jackson etc didn't even make the list

 

HTown....

 

Great minds think alike!      (OK, in my case, a not-so-great mind!)

 

If you scroll back up to post 12,  you'll see that I've written the exact same post in response to a post from another Colts fan here.

 

I'm with you all the way on this one!     :thmup:

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What?  Mario Williams I get.  Williams and Dareus are both big interior guys.  Dareus is basically a NT, and Williams is a high motor guy.  But all in all, neither one of those two is affecting Hughes playing time as they are in completely different positions with completely different skill sets.

 

My comment wasn't about them affecting his PT. It's was just about how Buffalo definitely has guys that are great pass rushers across their D-lines. 

 

And FWIW Hughes wasn't a starter for the Bills. He was a situational pass rusher. 

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Also everyone keep in mind that when Hughes left he admitted that he didn't like it in Indy..

He said "It never felt like home to me" "I never was comfortable" and other things.. He was really excited about the trade! He had nothing awful to say but made it very clear he didn't enjoy his time here..

So it is a good trade for both sides... We got Sheppard for him and believe it or not he was kind of important last year.. He is a solid back up

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Also everyone keep in mind that when Hughes left he admitted that he didn't like it in Indy..

He said "It never felt like home to me" "I never was comfortable" and other things.. He was really excited about the trade! He had nothing awful to say but made it very clear he didn't enjoy his time here..

So it is a good trade for both sides... We got Sheppard for him and believe it or not he was kind of important last year.. He is a solid back up

Sheppard is garbage. He'll be a backup again this season

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I'm as big of a Mathis fan as anyone but not sure he should have gotten an 18/20 on the run defense. He's definitely solid as a run stopper but I don't know if he's that good. Give him a 35/30 on pass rush :)

I agree with this.  Mathis has too many flaws to be number one.  You sometimes need to 'stay home' on the rush side too!  Horrendous at setting the edge when called upon as well.

 

I know you read the forums Robert...just know I love ya!  :)

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This is EXACTLY what i thought when we drafted him.

I'm on record that Werner is going to be a situational guy. I don't think he'll ever be an every down OLB but he can develop into a guy that you can move around and play standing up or hand down is certain situations.

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