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Posted 05 June 2013 - 02:47 PM

I don't normally watch Americas got Talent, but the wife had it on when I got home from work...
Anyways, the crazy gregorian chanting special head dude had me rolling last night, did anyone else see that dude???
great switch & bait trick, greatest thing I've seen in awhile...
anyways haven't found anybody today to talk to who actually saw it last night, so I thought I'd ask peoples here..

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:29 PM

I started watching it when Terry Fator won it all a few years back. He is still a headliner in Vegas, with his puppets he imitates famous singers and their songs, without moving his lips..He is one of the best ventriloquists ever.They have some great acts, and some really bad ones..If you want to see some amazing acts that almost won, but didn't..you can look up their auditions or performances on You Tube

 

Here are some of my favorites..

 

Terry Fator (original audition)

Team I Luminate'

Silouhettes

Jackie Evancho

 

The best one ever though, came from Britain's got talent...Just look up Susan Boyle Britain's Got Talent' 1st audition..and watch as they first tried to make her out to be a dud contestant...till she opens her mouth and sings.

 

Thanks for posting this..I forgot about it being back on soon..


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:13 AM

I'm gonna be honest here. I have never seen AGT, but if shock jock Howard Stern is going be a judge, I'll definitely check out a few episodes. I love watching people who you never know what they are going to say & if Howard thinks an act sucks he won't be afraid to mention it publicly either. Controversy always moves the needle baby! I live for that...being unconventional & unpredictable...smell the skyrocketing rating...KA CHING!


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:30 AM

The cool thing about Howard is 2 fold in scope: 1: He's been around enough actors, entertainers, & bands to have a knack for dissecting true talent from utter trash & #2: He knows full well what the phrase "starving artist" really means. His film "Private Parts"demonstrates his struggles to find his direction/his voice on the radio & now Stern is a kingpin provocateur on Sirus Satellite Radio.

Howard blazed his own path to success & he will give contestants a fair evaluation of their overall skills...Spectacular or Pathetic...I pray NBC producers don't neuter his originality too much. NBC as a broadcast network is lackluster to be kind & because of the need to increase viewership they might give Stern more freedom. God, I sincerely hope so, but I shouldn't get my hopes up though should I... It's on at 8 P.M. on Tuesdays...9 P.M. would be better...The later the show the more latitude producers stay off the censorship button. I just wish this country wasn't so obsessed with clean cut family entertainment, but that's just me I guess...I like my entertainment more than a little spicy I guess. To each their own, I suppose right?
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:55 AM

Supermodel Heidi Klum & Howard Stern on the same judicial panel...There's certainly a joke there...Ahem, but SW1 better not tell it. Ha! Ha! I really don't want to be suspended for a month. Just Kidding!

 

So, it sounds like Howard Stern will be AGT's version of Simon Cowell, the critic audiences love to hate...Works for me man just fine...Let the festivities begin like a gladiator battle in the Roman Coliseum...


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:17 AM

There is a delicate balancing act when it comes to judging though, especially on TV. You have the every act is adorable crowd. You have the stop the trainwreck before I loss my mind crowd. You have the what the Hades was that crowd. And the I've never seen that before how do I evaluate something new & foreign to me crowd. Basically, it boils down to nurture this act or destroy dreams & rip this act to shreds. On shows like this, I always wonder is the objective to coddle the talent, offer constructive advice to the talent for improvement purposes, or to deflate and or humiliate the talent?  

 

Has there ever been an eliminated contestant on the show who became more successful than the final grand prize winner who typically wins a multi-record deal with a major label? Just brainstorming outloud...


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 02:49 AM

Is AGT like an all you can eat buffet or do they break contestants up into pet tricks, dancing/ballet routines, & singing or band performances? etc. etc. I like acts broken up into categories not throw everything against the wall & lets see what sticks shall we. Never a good idea except maybe on a paintball maze outing with your friends on your birthday perhaps, but I digress...

 

Also, what qualifications does say a Supermodel bring to the table when judging quality musicians? True, a supermodel might be able to play an instrument well. It is possible I suppose. Not all that commonplace though I would guess. But sometimes, when you are out of your element completely, you tend to be way too nice having no idea how to critique a sad musician from a top notch one either.

 

What are the qualifications to be a judge anyway? A famous face that looks good on camera, needs a few million dollars for about 35 minutes of air time per show, & makes a large male demographic tune in for a pretty face every single week?  


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:26 AM

There are no categories per say..Anyone can tryout, and the best act wins 1 million dollars and a chance to headline in Las Vegas...Its supposed to be judged as what act would be best to headline Vegas..so you have singers, win, a dog act won last year, a ventriloquist who can imitate singers Terry Fator won one year, by having his puppets sing everything from Etta James, the rat Pack, Garth Brooks..He's friggin awesome..

 

The judges are just celebrities..last year it was Stern, Sharon Osbourne and Howie Mandel..Sharon quit cause of her son being axed from the network for some show he was supposed to be on cause he was diagnosed with some disease..

 

Just some of the acts are amazing...please go check out the named I listed on You Tube..esp the Susan Boyle one from Britain's got talent...And on that Panel was Cimon Cowell and that other British guy Piers...Its a pretty decent show and you see some really creative acts..and some really stupid ones..


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 03:26 AM

I remember in my younger days watching Ed McMahon, famous for Tonight Show days with Johnny Carson, host his own talent show in the mid 80's called "Star Search." Well once Ed was talking to a young woman during a supermodel video segment who was trying to win a contract with a premier modeling agency & Ed accidentally told this woman "Good luck Miss________ [I forget her name]. I wish you much s**[another word for intimate relations] down the road. I mean much success down the road." Live mishaps are extremely embarrassing, but trust me you never forget them either.

Whenever you see either a host or contestant go off script or off the reservation, it makes for unforgettable TV. I did feel bad for Ed McMahon, but that mistake that slipped past the censors was something I never thought I'd ever see from a TV pro like Ed. It simply floored me actually. It will interesting to see what the sponsors of AGT let Howard Stern get away with that's all I'm saying...
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:03 AM

There are no categories per say..Anyone can tryout, and the best act wins 1 million dollars and a chance to headline in Las Vegas...Its supposed to be judged as what act would be best to headline Vegas..so you have singers, win, a dog act won last year, a ventriloquist who can imitate singers Terry Fator won one year, by having his puppets sing everything from Etta James, the rat Pack, Garth Brooks..He's friggin awesome..

The judges are just celebrities..last year it was Stern, Sharon Osbourne and Howie Mandel..Sharon quit cause of her son being axed from the network for some show he was supposed to be on cause he was diagnosed with some disease..

Just some of the acts are amazing...please go check out the named I listed on You Tube..esp the Susan Boyle one from Britain's got talent...And on that Panel was Cimon Cowell and that other British guy Piers...Its a pretty decent show and you see some really creative acts..and some really stupid ones..

Thanks for the detailed summary CF4L. Do they ever bring previous winners back? Terry Fator the puppet guy should do a comedy tour with Jeff Dunham. I'm sure that Walter your avatar would approve. Then again, Walter is pretty set in his routine too so who knows. Howie Mandel doesn't he have an obsessive compulsive disorder regarding cleanliness too? I could so see Howard messing with Howie's head about dirt, bacteria, germs, & not washing his hands. Ha! Ha!

Too bad I never got to see Sharon Osbourne evaluate talent because she singlehandedly made Ozzy a household Metal icon after he was fired from Black Sabbath. She's the brains behind OzzFest & wears the pants in that household. Don't bleep with Sharon man. She's got a strong set of brass ones. Sharon has been around some darn good rock-n-roll bands. She could spot a solid Metal band blindfolded in a foreign country IMHO.

No screening process really? I guess I just prefer categories. It makes it easier to evaluate talent that way in my opinion. Bands 1 day. Puppets & magic acts the next. Standup comics on the 3rd day etc. etc. JMO.
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:37 AM

"The best act wins 1 million dollars and a chance to headline in Las Vegas.."

Okay, dumb question time my friend. Does the phrase "chance to headline in LA" mean 1 day, 1 week, or 1 year being the star attraction at a famous casino? I have no idea. I'm only asking...

If contestants make it to additional rounds week by week are they paid or is the participant only taken care of hotel & plane ticket wise as long as they continue to survive each round. I've always wondered what expenses a participant is required to take care of on their own. I have no idea how famous talent shows decide which contestants expenses are covered & which are not based on the TV ratings they generate.
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 05:10 AM

Okay, my brain is jello now. Time to exit stage right gracefully...Ouch! I said exit the stage not fall off it man!  http://www.thefreedi...com/break a leg

 

Jesus, I feel like I'm trapped in Freshmen Grammar & Composition again...Oh the Horror! Here we go: Break a leg: "Used to wish someone, such as an actor, success in a performance."

 

Funny in all those definitions I don't the word Klutz...Ha! Ha!...Sayonara everyone...


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:26 AM


"The best act wins 1 million dollars and a chance to headline in Las Vegas.."

Okay, dumb question time my friend. Does the phrase "chance to headline in LA" mean 1 day, 1 week, or 1 year being the star attraction at a famous casino? I have no idea. I'm only asking...

If contestants make it to additional rounds week by week are they paid or is the participant only taken care of hotel & plane ticket wise as long as they continue to survive each round. I've always wondered what expenses a participant is required to take care of on their own. I have no idea how famous talent shows decide which contestants expenses are covered & which are not based on the TV ratings they generate.


Not sure how long..they do do one show with the top 8 acts with the winner headlining. Terry Fator is the only one I know that has been doing it foe years and years since he won.You can watch last years shows on youtube and see Sharon interact with Howard..they usually show the judges evaluating the acts if its an AGT video on you tube...Not sure on their expenses, but if you read the credits..the million is paid out over a lot of yeas, not one lump sum. (which I don't agree with)



Thanks for the detailed summary CF4L. Do they ever bring previous winners back? Terry Fator the puppet guy should do a comedy tour with Jeff Dunham. I'm sure that Walter your avatar would approve. Then again, Walter is pretty set in his routine too so who knows. Howie Mandel doesn't he have an obsessive compulsive disorder regarding cleanliness too? I could so see Howard messing with Howie's head about dirt, bacteria, germs, & not washing his hands. Ha! Ha!

Too bad I never got to see Sharon Osbourne evaluate talent because she singlehandedly made Ozzy a household Metal icon after he was fired from Black Sabbath. She's the brains behind OzzFest & wears the pants in that household. Don't bleep with Sharon man. She's got a strong set of brass ones. Sharon has been around some darn good rock-n-roll bands. She could spot a solid Metal band blindfolded in a foreign country IMHO.

No screening process really? I guess I just prefer categories. It makes it easier to evaluate talent that way in my opinion. Bands 1 day. Puppets & magic acts the next. Standup comics on the 3rd day etc. etc. JMO.

They occasionally near the finals bring back the previous years winner...or someone really special..like Terry Fator, and Jackie Evancho..(She was 20 years old and sang opera like she'd done it for 30 years...she sang Ave Maria and man it was like watching an Angel from Heaven sing.

I think they do try to have in the finals a variety of acts, you'll hear Howard or someone say we have a lot of great dancers this year so it will be hard for you to move much farther..etc...They tend to look for original ideas..like Team Iluminate and Silhouettes...both dance groups...Ilumiate is awesome..they perform in the dark with computer generated lights on their bodies...telling a story in neon light..or silhouettes...a group of very young dancers that are behind a screen and dance, then end up in a shape of something familiar..like Washington standing on the boat crossing the Delaware..the statue of liberty...a little girl swinging on a tree...A comedian got second place last year..

Just take an few hours when you are bored and do a search in youtube on america's got talent...or Britain;s got talent..i think they even had a highlight from a korean version...i think they have at least 6 or 7 countries that do the same show premise...

This one is still the best one ever....she ended up in second place but she ended up making some cd's and actually got to sing with her idol Elaine Page



Here are a couple of my favorite acts...

Terry Fator



Silhouettes

http://youtu.be/Sw0fT3M-CLs

.Team Iluminate

http://youtu.be/rq5xFHB1bl8


Fighting Gravity

http://youtu.be/RMiaDlrMiDg

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:21 PM

The best one ever though, came from Britain's got talent...Just look up Susan Boyle Britain's Got Talent' 1st audition..and watch as they first tried to make her out to be a dud contestant...till she opens her mouth and sings.

I've never been able to figure out whether I love that clip or hate that clip.

 

On the good side, it was an incredible and moving "everyman" moment. She was charming in a goofy way, and you have to love her and be happy for her. I'll admit to tearing up the first time I saw it. I can't dispute the point that it was great television.

 

HOWEVER, in watching it multiple times it bothers me that the emotion all comes from the fact that they so superficially dismissed her in the first place. It essentially comes down to "wow, you're pretty good for someone who looks like that, and is that age, and comes from that background." It's a backhanded compliment coached in pity. She shouldn't have been dismissed in the first place, and Simon Cowell is just an intolerable :cuss: .  But ironically if she HAD simply been evaluated fairly up front, she probably wouldn't have gone as far in the show, nor built it into a career. Why? Because she isn't all that good a singer.

 

So when it swings back the other way it's equally annoying for completely different reasons. The fact that Susan Boyle became a "star" says a LOT about our silly culture, and speaks to how much I really can't stand reality television most of the time. I'm sure that there are thousands of people there are out there who can sing much better than her who have no chance of breaking into the industry. Pretty much anyone whose gotten paid to sing on Broadway could perform "I Dreamed a Dream" in a manner that would make Susan's version sound pedestrian - but suddenly she has name recognition, so people line up to hear her musical interpretations as if she's Aretha Franklin or Barbara Streisand. She probably belongs where she was in the first place - singing in a local choir. So good for her for having the gumption to pull this off, and I don't blame her for making the most of it, but the entire thing is pretty ridiculous.

 

But that MOMENT alone was great television, and don't meant to detract from your obvious enthusiasm in sharing it.



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Posted 07 June 2013 - 02:23 AM

I've never been able to figure out whether I love that clip or hate that clip.

 

On the good side, it was an incredible and moving "everyman" moment. She was charming in a goofy way, and you have to love her and be happy for her. I'll admit to tearing up the first time I saw it. I can't dispute the point that it was great television.

 

HOWEVER, in watching it multiple times it bothers me that the emotion all comes from the fact that they so superficially dismissed her in the first place. It essentially comes down to "wow, you're pretty good for someone who looks like that, and is that age, and comes from that background." It's a backhanded compliment coached in pity. She shouldn't have been dismissed in the first place, and Simon Cowell is just an intolerable :cuss: .  But ironically if she HAD simply been evaluated fairly up front, she probably wouldn't have gone as far in the show, nor built it into a career. Why? Because she isn't all that good a singer.

 

So when it swings back the other way it's equally annoying for completely different reasons. The fact that Susan Boyle became a "star" says a LOT about our silly culture, and speaks to how much I really can't stand reality television most of the time. I'm sure that there are thousands of people there are out there who can sing much better than her who have no chance of breaking into the industry. Pretty much anyone whose gotten paid to sing on Broadway could perform "I Dreamed a Dream" in a manner that would make Susan's version sound pedestrian - but suddenly she has name recognition, so people line up to hear her musical interpretations as if she's Aretha Franklin or Barbara Streisand. She probably belongs where she was in the first place - singing in a local choir. So good for her for having the gumption to pull this off, and I don't blame her for making the most of it, but the entire thing is pretty ridiculous.

 

But that MOMENT alone was great television, and don't meant to detract from your obvious enthusiasm in sharing it.

 

You are more than likely right in your assessment...but you can also look at it from the point where I love this clip..Look at the video again, before she sings, there's a girl in the audience rolling her eyes, the judges are like ..oh no...Everyone made a judgement on this lady, who had the gumption to try to do something she always wanted to do, and just because of the way she looked, and acting just like herself, thought she was a complete joke...From the first note she hit, she made everyone realize that the old adage is true...you can't judge a book by its cover. Its a shame our world is like this, but this clip made people realize its not all all about looks, flash, bling, or whatever...

 

She may not be the greatest singer in the world, but she got to live her dream, in spite of what anyone else thinks...and She did it all with everyone laughing in her face. If only one person changed because of watching Susan Boyle that evening remind us all to be less judgmental with whomever we meet or see, then the world is just a little much better...

 

That is why I am "enthusiastic" about that video....it made for great TV, but it also taught a lesson....a lesson I hope many others will realize before making rash judgements on others.


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Posted 07 June 2013 - 04:00 AM

You are more than likely right in your assessment...but you can also look at it from the point where I love this clip..Look at the video again, before she sings, there's a girl in the audience rolling her eyes, the judges are like ..oh no...Everyone made a judgement on this lady, who had the gumption to try to do something she always wanted to do, and just because of the way she looked, and acting just like herself, thought she was a complete joke...From the first note she hit, she made everyone realize that the old adage is true...you can't judge a book by its cover. Its a shame our world is like this, but this clip made people realize its not all all about looks, flash, bling, or whatever...

 

She may not be the greatest singer in the world, but she got to live her dream, in spite of what anyone else thinks...and She did it all with everyone laughing in her face. If only one person changed because of watching Susan Boyle that evening remind us all to be less judgmental with whomever we meet or see, then the world is just a little much better...

 

That is why I am "enthusiastic" about that video....it made for great TV, but it also taught a lesson....a lesson I hope many others will realize before making rash judgements on others.

Oh I understand that, believe me. As I said, I teared up watching it the first time. I know exactly what you are talking about. I personally take the approach in life that "I don't care what people think of me" as I proceed down one slightly eccentric path or another, but then sometimes you find out the hard way that you do care after all, and it's not fun.

 

Susan Boyle has considerably more courage than I do, and I applaud her for it - believe me. My ambiguous feelings about the circumstances are somewhat related to those offensive looks from all the pretty-normal-judgemental people in the audience. It's mean, and than she sings and they treat her differently. If she was lousy wouldn't they still have been mean? They should have been trying to make her feel comfortable regardless - laughing with her not at her - as she took this big risk. I could be wrong, but I've gotten the impression that part of the pleasure in those shows is the mocking of the ones that are lousy. I don't see the pleasure in it.

 

By the way, my comments about her singing are based SOLELY on my other-the-top enthusiasm for Les Mis. I've got the original cast recording, the 10th anniversary performance, the 25th anniversary performance, we saw the road show in Philly, listened to every clip from the movie we could (didn't get a chance to see it in the theater, but will buy it when I can). I always loved the song in question, and when the movie came out went nuts about the "new" version as performed by Anne Hathaway (who is easy to go nuts about no-matter what she is doing). It prompted me to go online and listen to a good dozen other versions of the song, and in the process I came upon the above Susan Boyle clip again. I'm no expert, but she really didn't seem to have the range, the power, or the ability to hold a note that the others do (all of them also live). The thing is, it's a really hard song. Perhaps she comes across better in other songs, and I'm sure she's better still in a studio where they can do multiple takes and enhancements. Just for the heck of it, I checked out her version of Wild Horses, and I must say that I was impressed with her "take" on it. Another song that I love, and she did it pleasantly differently than the original. And that goes to my original comments questioning why someone would buy her albums. When you aren't putting out original music, you had better have either an extraordinary voice or a unique interpretation, or both. For instance I prefer Joe Cocker's version of about anything he covers better than the original. Since I haven't listened to more of Susan's stuff, I should probably just assume that people liked "her" versions that they heard on tv in a similar manner.  No harm intended - really. The woman is delightful. She should seriously consider latching on to a British sit-com or something.








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