A. Q. Shipley traded

[Marcio James 106]

#Colts acquire a conditional 2014 draft pick from the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for center A.Q. Shipley http://blogs.colts.com/2013/05/09/immediate-reaction-colts-acquire-2014-draft-pick-for-center-a-q-shipley/?icampaign=blog_ind_blogfeed_entry …

 

[Derakynn 1,138]

This is going to tick some people off.

[BNS 135]

This caught me off guard!  WOW

[jvan1973 12,934]

uh oh...lol this thread is going to be epic

[Mr.Debonair 782]

We will see how this works out

[jshipp23 842]

Thought he had potential....hope it's not for just a 7th rounder ..

[Albaby 165]

Why couldn't they trade Satele?

[AntonMcG 1,298]

Shame, performed admirably, but Satele should be a lot better this year being injury free and Holmes is clearly a very highly rated prospect by the Front Office. We don't need three centers.

[Marcio James 106]

Why couldn't they trade Satele?

Why, guys? why?!?!?!?

[Valpo2004 2,312]

They traded him for a CONDITIONAL pick?  What are the conditions?  

 

You realize if he doesn't meet the conditions they we essentially gave him away. . . for free.

[AntonMcG 1,298]

Thought he had potential....hope it's not for just a 7th rounder ..

 

Conditional, so if he doesn't make the team we may not get anything. I would imagine the most we would get for him is a 6th round pick.

[coltsfanatic24 1,007]

Not surprised i said that Holmes would be the starter, Satele will help him out along the way as a mentor.

[Valpo2004 2,312]

Why couldn't they trade Satele?

 

Ravens probably didn't want to pay Satele's salary, which is much higher then Shipley's.  I still don't understand dumping Shipley for a conditional pick though.  If he doesn't meet the conditions then they gave him away for free.  

[Albaby 165]

I guess they got tired of having a guy that's best picture is him picking his nose.

[lollygagger8 6,232]

WOW!!!  Uggghhhhhhh!!!! 

[J@son 5,550]

They traded him for a CONDITIONAL pick?  What are the conditions?  

 

You realize if he doesn't meet the conditions they we essentially gave him away. . . for free.

 

That's possible but not necessarily true.  It could be, just for example, a 5th round pick if he meets X criteria, but a 6th round pick if he doesn't meet that criteria.  

[TKnight24 8,530]

:nuke: :nuke:

[HtownColt 2,932]

Satele and Shipley were about equal, addition of Holmes, Grigson decided to go with the experience in Satele over Shipley.

I bet it's a 7th rounder that could become a 6th based on performance

[LockeDown 1,118]

He wasn't THAT good.  He just performed pretty good under our circumstances last year.  I guess they believe Holmes is the real deal then.

[Marcio James 106]

AQ Shipley ‏@aqshipley39 s

An amazing year and i cant say enough about them and all the awesome fans in this beautiful city of indianapolis! I look forward to going

 

 

AQ Shipley ‏@aqshipley2 min

Just wanted to say thank you to all the people in the colts organization who gave me an opportunity last year to show what i can do! It was

 

oh, man

[IndyD4U 2,038]

Not surprising by any means. We knew that one of them had to go. A.Q. played decent and I wish him the best. Looks like Holmes is the man, unless Satele show vast improvement this year. I'm looking forward to watching these two in camp.

[Valpo2004 2,312]

I guess I don't understand the logic of this until you see what you had from the rookies in camp.  

[Gavin 7,030]

Not surprised about getting rid of a Center, That was bound to happen sometime. Its to bad it was the wrong Center

[jskinnz 3,658]

Ravens probably didn't want to pay Satele's salary, which is much higher then Shipley's.  I still don't understand dumping Shipley for a conditional pick though.  If he doesn't meet the conditions then they gave him away for free.  

 

Think you are looking at this all wrong.  With the trade it becomes clear he did not fit in the Colts plans, in other words, he was likely going to be cut anyway.  That is giving away something for nothing.  Not sure of the terms of the trade, but my guess is that the Colts will get something back regardless if he makes the Ravens roster or not.

[weslo1812 524]

Not supprising in a way. Shipley was solid but I'm pretty sure Grigs and Pagono feel that Holmes is the future. Well see how this all plays out.

[ED29_1659yards 45]

I was just , then  , saw this thread and... ... ,.. :cuss: :cuss:  What happen to his ... :rulez: ...i tried to post all of the emoticons that expressed my feelings, but obviously i went too far. I feel like right now...This was a bad move. Satelle probably doesn't have as much value a Shipley, so maybe that's why Grigson did it...we'll find out soon enough....

[FightLikeSin 684]

Oh well, the man deserves to start somewhere. Satele is making a lot of money and I think they drafted Holmes with the mindset that he'd be the man going forward. This only furthers that logic. If you can get something for someone who was probably going to get cut regardless...I'm fine with it. Happy for A.Q. He should be in contention to start in Baltimore.

[Valpo2004 2,312]

Think you are looking at this all wrong.  With the trade it becomes clear he did not fit in the Colts plans, in other words, he was likely going to be cut anyway.  That is giving away something for nothing.  Not sure of the terms of the trade, but my guess is that the Colts will get something back regardless if he makes the Ravens roster or not.

 

I would just think they would want to see what Holmes has in training camp before they ship out Shipley.    But I suppose Grigs had to move on the trade quick or the Raven's might have looked elsewhere.  

[Insert Colts Pun Here 296]

I'm fine with this. I know a lot of people on here won't be, but I am

I just hope Holmes steps up now.

[In Luck We Trust 295]

Think you are looking at this all wrong.  With the trade it becomes clear he did not fit in the Colts plans, in other words, he was likely going to be cut anyway.  That is giving away something for nothing.  Not sure of the terms of the trade, but my guess is that the Colts will get something back regardless if he makes the Ravens roster or not.

we only got a conditional pick in 2014 for shipley

[Shepman 120]

Don't get me wrong I like Shipley but a center without a consistent shotgun hike is a poor center. I read a surprising article that stated Satele last year was better at run block and Shipley was better at pass blocking. Satele was also hurt and had poor inside blockers.

[coltsfanatic24 1,007]

Holmes was gonna start over A.Q and Satele and we couldn't keep 3 centers on the roster. Satele had no value atleast we got a pick for A.Q  instead of cutting one of them and not getting anything for it.

[In Luck We Trust 295]

guess this means grigson is happy with injury prone Sattelle and Holmes??? 

[ALuck>RG3 99]

Don't get me wrong I like Shipley but a center without a consistent shotgun hike is a poor center. I read a surprising article that stated Satele last year was better at run block and Shipley was better at pass blocking. Satele was also hurt and had poor inside blockers.

Poor inside blockers? They both had poor inside blockers

[In Luck We Trust 295]

Holmes was gonna start over A.Q and Satele and we couldn't keep 3 centers on the roster. Satele had no value atleast we got a pick for A.Q  instead of cutting one of them and not getting anything for it.

just curious where you got that fact?? because the way i see it is, there is no guaranteed starter for center on this team and that spot is up for grabs. 

[Shepman 120]

guess this means grigson is happy with injury prone Sattelle and Holmes???

Perhaps the offensive line coach is happy with those two?

[Jay Kirk 5,018]

WOW!!!  Uggghhhhhhh!!!!

My sentiments exactly :hmm:

[Mouthfire 322]

 

Seriously, though... first front office move I vehemently disagree with....

[Qwiz 3,603]

Well we know who the starting center is going to be now ha

[jshipp23 842]

The fact that 1 of the best G.M.'s and talent evaluators in the league in Ozzie Newsome wanted Shipley tells me this was a bad move for us, Newsome continues to make brilliant moves this offseason...