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Wow, they are making games technical these days.

 

They're trying to make it technical and failing hard.  Madden devs don't seem to have a good enough grasp of the game to pull it off.

 

It really is. Which is why I hate Madden 13. Tried to get Julio Jones & some other big name players & the stupid thing said their scheme fit was "poor" in my system. So they signed elsewhere smh. That's just pitiful

 

Offer them more money and you get them regardless of scheme fit.  Quitting Madden is pretty understandable, though.  Game hasn't been a quality product in at least 5 years.

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 was trying to make the point that scheme fit is important in any position, whether that position be CB, OL, D-line or whatever. Then you decided to start with name calling. It's against the rules and if the mods so choose to do so, could give you a vacation from the forum. Just trying to save you from that and from turning this thread into one that will get locked.

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Posted · Hidden by 21isSuperman, March 10, 2013 - off topic/giving ideas for breaking the rules
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I was trying to make the point that scheme fit is important in any position, whether that position be CB, OL, D-line or whatever. Then you decided to start with name calling. It's against the rules and if the mods so choose to do so, could give you a vacation from the forum. Just trying to save you from that and from turning this thread into one that will get locked.

omg dude its over, lol im sorry didnt think you would make this big of a deal lol relax man. and if I did get a vacation id be back with a new acct on a vpn lol so cool it.

anyways back to the topic please.....

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one of the developers of madden actually lives across the street from my parents in florida. he says they try to make it more realistic each year.

 

They try, for sure.  Problem is that they seem to lack focus and, as such, introduce a whole bunch of half-baked features every year that aren't a great approximation of the game.  I don't envy them, being on the release schedule they're on as well as being under the EA umbrella most likely stifles their ability to create a quality product significantly.

 

I don't think consoles are a great platform for a football sim, to be honest.  The actual game experience would be better served if they didn't have to re-release the entire game every year and just did updates.

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I don't. If I want someone, then I want them. I hate when I'm restricted by something. Let me run my team.

They are letting you run your team, but not control every player. I like realism. If I feel like I cheated it can ruin the game for me.
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My personal feeling is that they are only chasing both to ensure they get one. I would feel better with Vasquez, a vet RT Tackle, and drafting our other guard (and/or/both signing a mid-level OG to start opposite Vasquez). I'm not crazy about having that much money tied up in OG when you will be having to re-sign your left tackle in a few years. 

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The Colts tendered RFA's Link and Reitz.       If both sign then I do not see Indy bringing in both of these guys.    But I totally expect ONE to be a Colt.

 

And I would not count out one of the lower tier OT's either,... 

 

 Bushrod, Baker, the guy from Detroit.....       

 

Who knows?

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I'd take either or. Andy levitre is supposedly a artist at pass blocking so I'd rather get him. Getting both would be a dream come true and I would scream at the top of my lungs if we did get both. If we miss out on both we could try Ramon foster,Kevin boothe,Matt slauson, or Brandon Moore

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so if we take one of those guys where is the rest of the money we have to spend going to go ?

 

A right tackle perhaps? We are not going to just get one Olineman and stop...

 

so I am confused even with kruger for 10 mil we still have a lot more to spend.

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If we bring in Ed Reed..... who's moving to SS? Doubt we sigm him

 

As a FS Bethea has 100 or more tackles every year, many many near the line of scrimmage, and 1 Int. 3 years ago.

To me he as a FS, has been our best SS for a few years now.

 

He, Zib, and Lefeged are all the same size.

 

He, Zib, and Lefeged are all the same size.

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Posted · Hidden by 21isSuperman, March 10, 2013 - off topic
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omg dude its over, lol im sorry didnt think you would make this big of a deal lol relax man. and if I did get a vacation id be back with a new acct on a vpn lol so cool it.

anyways back to the topic please.....

 

Wait, what?  you'd be back with a new account on a vpn?  What does that even mean?  And before you reply I know exactly what a vpn is, but I can't think of how that would have anything to do with your account on this forum.  

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Realistic my butt. I was once playing agains the computer and I had Rodgers on a 3rd and 16 in the last drive of the game. I timed the snap perfect, te couldn't even touch me...

But somehow the rt, yes, RIGHT TACKLE, sprints all the way down the line and stops me right before I smack Rodgers. Rodgers just stands there and throws a first down.

I haven't played madden since. And this is madden 13 I'm talking about.

They should take page of 2ks book. How they do with the basketball series, focus on making the gameplay and modes better instead of trying to "introduce new features"

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I don't. If I want someone, then I want them. I hate when I'm restricted by something. Let me run my team.

This sum up one of the issues of Madden, trying to satisfy those who want a proper "Sim" of the NFL both in gameplay and running a franchise and those who want instant gratification. Leads to stuff like the schemes, which although a good idea, are implemented in horrendous fashion.

To somewhat bring this back on topic you could sign the all time top 5 O lineman and it wouldn't make a difference in Madden due to the broken O line/D line interactions. Oh we'll I suppose I could just go buy another NFL game....

Fully back on topic I'd take Vasquez over Levitre but would be happy with either, it would be hard not to improve at G if we signed one in FA.

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your trying to compare ol,s to secondary....your logic is flawed....please try again.

No it's really not, Balzer is merely saying that any player asked to play on a a scheme he's not used to can struggle regardless of position. The inverse to this would be people getting giddy about Pep coming in and as to how this will improve Luck/Fleener due to scheme familiarity.

He's also quite correct in saying if a scheme calls for certain physical abilities/attributes these cant always be coached or attained through training. The only thing I personally would say to counter that is I'm sure Grigson with his experience has a better idea about the suitability of players for our O line and as to whether they can transition schemes.

Notice how was I was able to resort to just plain old name calling just because someone didn't agree with me, and how I offered (correct or not) a tangible reason for why I believe this. You sir are the one who needs to try again with a degree more civility and a willingness to listen. You never know you might learn something, I certainly do every time I come on here.

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They should take page of 2ks book. How they do with the basketball series, focus on making the gameplay and modes better instead of trying to "introduce new features"

Madden is so overated it's ridiculous. Every since EA bought the exclusive rights to the NFL in 06 the game has been a disaster. I can honestly say NFL 2K5 is a better football game in EVERY aspect than madden 13. And if I remember correctly it was $20.00 when released and madden is Always $60....

2K is so much better than EA that they don't own exclusive rights to the NBA or MLB but EA won't drop a game because if they do it would be so much worse than 2K it would bring bad Publicity to EA...

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No it's really not, Balzer is merely saying that any player asked to play on a a scheme he's not used to can struggle regardless of position. The inverse to this would be people getting giddy about Pep coming in and as to how this will improve Luck/Fleener due to scheme familiarity.

He's also quite correct in saying if a scheme calls for certain physical abilities/attributes these cant always be coached or attained through training. The only thing I personally would say to counter that is I'm sure Grigson with his experience has a better idea about the suitability of players for our O line and as to whether they can transition schemes.

Notice how was I was able to resort to just plain old name calling just because someone didn't agree with me, and how I offered (correct or not) a tangible reason for why I believe this. You sir are the one who needs to try again with a degree more civility and a willingness to listen. You never know you might learn something, I certainly do every time I come on here.

 

 

 

Well said, and you are absolutely correct.

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Madden is so overated it's ridiculous. Every since EA bought the exclusive rights to the NFL in 06 the game has been a disaster. I can honestly say NFL 2K5 is a better football game in EVERY aspect than madden 13. And if I remember correctly it was $20.00 when released and madden is Always $60....

2K is so much better than EA that they don't own exclusive rights to the NBA or MLB but EA won't drop a game because if they do it would be so much worse than 2K it would bring bad Publicity to EA...

and that is why EA was sued. Fans of the Madden and NCAA Football are sick of having to pay $60 every year on the same game with more features. The features that could easily be DLC and all they would have to do is make the DLC $15-20 and they would be making more money. 

 

And to the OP if we got both and a good RT then our OL would be amazing for years to come definitely with Shipley as C. 

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Posted · Hidden by 21isSuperman, March 10, 2013 - off topic
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Wait, what? you'd be back with a new account on a vpn? What does that even mean? And before you reply I know exactly what a vpn is, but I can't think of how that would have anything to do with your account on this forum.

btw this isnt a lcal vpn from your router...

client = server = there provided ip = new ip

if you knew what a vpn is then you would know you get a new ip from the place you rent the vpn from...soooo you get banned come back on a new ip....works on anything plus ur untracable for illeagal downloads ect..

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Posted · Hidden by 21isSuperman, March 10, 2013 - off topic
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btw this isnt a lcal vpn from your router...

client = server = there provided ip = new ip

if you knew what a vpn is then you would know you get a new ip from the place you rent the vpn from...soooo you get banned come back on a new ip....works on anything plus ur untracable for illeagal downloads ect..

The same can be achieved via a proxy with much less hassle, VPNs unless properly set up with proper termination equipment (like a ASA) are bandwidth killers.

The real question is why would you go to such lengths to avoid a forum ban.... Though I suppose it fits with the language and manners you've shown so far.

It's also pretty dumb stating how you intend to avoid any ban, should one to descend, on the very forum in question.

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No it's really not, Balzer is merely saying that any player asked to play on a a scheme he's not used to can struggle regardless of position. The inverse to this would be people getting giddy about Pep coming in and as to how this will improve Luck/Fleener due to scheme familiarity.

He's also quite correct in saying if a scheme calls for certain physical abilities/attributes these cant always be coached or attained through training. The only thing I personally would say to counter that is I'm sure Grigson with his experience has a better idea about the suitability of players for our O line and as to whether they can transition schemes.

Notice how was I was able to resort to just plain old name calling just because someone didn't agree with me, and how I offered (correct or not) a tangible reason for why I believe this. You sir are the one who needs to try again with a degree more civility and a willingness to listen. You never know you might learn something, I certainly do every time I come on here.

this is all debatable....you cant predict this...your going off a few players bad fits. you dont know if the player justdecided to not care either since they got the fat pay day. its quite common, so you cant predict a player not addapting to a new scheme or not, your just assuming...where is the solid proof he wont do well?

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