I already went through this stuff on another post. I don't have time to argue my point again, but the game was lost on the "bomb play". As I said in a previous post, and this will be the only time I'll reference that again (I'm tired of arguing the/my point). If you could some how magically go through the entire game and assign some kind of value to fault for the loss, where do you honestly think Manning would stand in his fault value? How many mistakes did you see Manninig make during the game? How many mistakes were made by D? What key player(s) came out of the game to effect a change? The biggest play everyone is pointing to is the pick in double OT. What about the defense not performing as it had all season? What about the missed FG? What about Moreno getting injured? What about the big bomb at the end? They shouldn't have been in the position to throw a pick.
Was the post in this thread or another? . . . I would like to read it . . . just let me know the thread and I can find it . . .
As for your points I would like to say the following . . . the pick 6 was a bad bounce (i don't think it was PI frankly), the WR was looking into the sun and it was cold . . . the pass was a tad high but that was it from Manning, it was otherwise a fine pass . . . the fumble was a fumble and was past the tuck point, bad luck for Manning had he just dropped the ball it would of been a incomplete pass, like what happen to Romo in a game last year, but he lost control of the ball and tried to corral it and was able to grab it with both hands, so to that extent it was on mannning and just bad luck it was past the point of the tuck (whereas Romo was saved by dropping the ball). . . the final pick was on manning . . .
The D did not play lights out, but on the other hand were not awful either, they gave up 21 points on hail marys that work about once in 15 tries, the other 14 points were on the pick 6 and the short field based on Manning's fumble . . . so not great, but not awful, bad luck maybe
the team was helped by 14 points on ST, the missed FG i believe was from beyond his range and, like a golfer trying to kill a ball, you can hit the dirt before the ball . . .
so was the game on manning . . . no it was not . . . nor was it totally on the D either . . . the one thing that i will say is that in games like that, you really need to avoid trying to make a mistake, and it has happened to everyone . . .so to that extent I feel that it was ill advise for Manning not to throw away the ball OT, was it the be all end all, no of coarse not, but merely a situation were a mistake was made, like the safety play and coaching, could not be afforded . . .
hey all QBs have had mistakes and many times have made ones that are just a mere part of a game . . . this is simple what happened . . . so the pick, like the coaching and safety play, were all parts of the loss . . . alas, when your team around you are making mistakes it carries an extra burden on teammates not to make a mistake themselves . . .