Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

BProland85

This Sunday will show a lot

29 posts in this topic

Im hoping this team shows it can play very well for the full 60 minutes, and not just the 2nd half. Luck needs to stop with the INTs if this team is going to have a shot against quality opponents. I like that BA admitted in the last postgame speech that once we play well the full game we're gonna be darn good. Now lets see it!

I for one would like to see some comfortable leads/wins instead of narrow ones.

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

if, and a big if, the colts build a lead i hope they dont get conservative. the texans came back easily against the jags and lions.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Luck will stop with the interceptions when his offensive line stops offending. And when he stops staring WR's down

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Eventually he'll learn to stop throwing the ball in order to avoid being sacked. I love his effort, but if there's no escape, sometimes you just have to eat the ball to play another down.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Eventually he'll learn to stop throwing the ball in order to avoid being sacked. I love his effort, but if there's no escape, sometimes you just have to eat the ball to play another down.

Or just throw it away. :/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Luck will stop with the interceptions when his offensive line stops offending. And when he stops staring WR's down

Yeah, he'll always throw INTs if he continues to be the most pressured and most hurried QB in the league. Offensive line is below the bottom of the barrel. Critical this has to be the primary focus on the off season or else he'll eventually get injured.

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Or just throw it away. :/

Yeah that would be an abnormally large amount of throw always though, haha.

They just need to do the best they can this year, Luck can get better while the mgmt can find some semblance of an offensive line with all that cap room + the draft next year.

I think shoring up both the OL and DL need to come first. Pick up a nice CB somewhere. Rookies will learn and progress and next year we can start the decade long rise to stardom. Got kind of an early start this year at least :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why take chances? lol

I'd rather chuck it out of bounds and lose a down instead of losing yardage. If nothing is open, toss it away.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd rather chuck it out of bounds and lose a down instead of losing yardage. If nothing is open, toss it away.

That's a difficult task while in a collapsing pocket. Range of throwing motion is greatly reduce. With this Oline, there's very little time to decide. It's one thing to throw the ball away if nothing's open. It's another to have 1000 lbs of meat about to engulf you lol
2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Some better play calling in the first half would be nice. Don't have to sling it down field every single down. Need to be more creative and mix in some short routes, draws, stretch plays...we just need to play to our lines strength so we're not out there getting luck killed. Whatever that might be, heh. Need the right guys on the line also, even if that means link and shipley

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Some better play calling in the first half would be nice. Don't have to sling it down field every single down. Need to be more creative and mix in some short routes, draws, stretch plays...we just need to play to our lines strength so we're not out there getting luck killed. Whatever that might be, heh. Need the right guys on the line also, even if that means link and shipley

Exactly I would love BA to concede the offensive line sucks, therefore putting a gameplan together that gets the ball out fast to backs or short routes and more play action. Not so much telegraphing the plays.

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

its seems as If Bruce Ariens is under the imprssion that the O line has done well this year becuase they have blocked well at certian times which has helped us come back to an extent and win these games. I dont know for sure but I hope he realsizes that overall for this season the Oline has played very poor, besides maybe a lil improvement in the run game. But those games were against bad defenses so I dont know you can really take too much from that. And yes we have had Injuries too but still its been bad.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, i would say what my thoughts were on this game from a week ago, but for some reason, Houston should not be a scare. I don't say that from watching the absolute whoopin' they got on MNF but from just knowing that JJ Watt is so pumped up to kick our butts and the Texans hate us and Foster should run for 300 yards and all that, but ya know,,,,,,,,,,, I just have a good feeling bout this game. I hope I'm not back here eatin' Raven after Sunday.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Exactly I would love BA to concede the offensive line sucks, therefore putting a gameplan together that gets the ball out fast to backs or short routes and more play action. Not so much telegraphing the plays.

Maybe he will just milk this downfield game plan until the playoffs and then bust out the dink & dunk one to throw people off guard. =p

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Luck will stop with the interceptions when his offensive line stops offending. And when he stops staring WR's down

I feel he's getting better each week. Compare his numbers from the Lions game to the Titans game, and I think you'll see a decrease in interceptions.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Im looking at Lucks Game Splits according to NFL.com and can someone tell me where it says 20+, does that 20+ mean number of ATTEMPTS of 20+ yards or COMPLETIONS of 20+ I would guess completions because I think Luck is WELL over the numbers of attempts that are in these Game Splits

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

in their five comeback wins when they've trailed at halftime, the Colts have allowed one touchdown in 29 drives.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Arians in his Monday press conference expressed that Luck chose to look downfield when he had Fleenor open short 3-4 times and Arians wasn`t pleased with Lucks choices there. Arians said, "he would rather Luck took the easier throw".

To me Luck IS staring down his receivers and Was over targeting Reggie pretty Badly.

So I wonder, how much of this holding onto the ball and constantly looking deep is a Luck problem?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Luck definitely has a gunslinger mentality at times. It doesn't help when he is under constant pressure from his weak O-line, but I don't think that it is any secret he always looks for the long ball before he does his short routes. Whether that is because those long balls are his first reads or whether he just wants bigger chunks of yards I am not sure, or maybe it is simply a product of BA's offense. His deep balls have both hurt the Colts and paid off big at different times this season. I do believe that with an offseason of coaching, and even more importantly, improving that terrible O-line, his completion percentage will go way up and his INTs way down.

This Sunday he just needs to take what the defense gives him. Really cliche, but if we don't turn the ball over we should have a chance in the 4th quarter to steal this one from the Texans. Like I said in another post, if you give me Luck with the ball in the 4th quarter with a chance to win/tie the game, I am feeling pretty good with the guy's 2nd gear for game winning drives/comebacks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

BA is right some of Luck's int's are mechanical (ball sails, ball under thrown) and those are on Luck not the line (to be fair some are on his receivers, not crossing the face of the defender, per BA in Detroit). That being said, Luck's ability to keep his eyes focused down the field given the never ending pressure he always faces is nothing short of astounding. Once we have a good pass blocking line in front of Luck or even if we replaced the current line with a great run blocking line so that the defense was always concerned with run first and Luck was mostly play action passing then Luck will be unstoppable.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If we can at least have some sort of hot reads/quick throws in these plays for luck to throw, then we can win this game. We won the Lions game this way!

Our O-Line is not going to hold up for these 20 yard routes the entire day. Dink and dunk worked perfectly for the Pats. Then when Texans are tired of that and press up close, throw the deep ball. This isn't rocket science. I hope Arians watched tape of the Pats game all week and makes some adjustments for this game!

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

BA better script some darn nice first 20 plays. First drive is gonna be huge IMO.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why take chances? lol

Exactly, we have to take chances in order to score. Almost every play the Oline gets blown up off the snap, Luck makes hurried throws or flushed out of the pocket almost every play. Either Arians needs to come up with shorter, more conservative plays or Grigson gets a Oline.

Until then, INTs will be thrown.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What exactly will one game show that the entire season to date hasn't already?

Hoping it doesn't show what showed the last time we played a division leader...........

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I feel he's getting better each week. Compare his numbers from the Lions game to the Titans game, and I think you'll see a decrease in interceptions.

I feel he's getting better each week. Compare his numbers from the Lions game to the Titans game, and I think you'll see a decrease in interceptions.

This is all about Luck handling overload blitzes and making ok to good decisions on 9 out of 10 throws.

To be honest in the last three games Luck hasn't been making ok to good decisions on 9 out of 10 throws.

I'll share your optimism though!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Exactly, we have to take chances in order to score. Almost every play the Oline gets blown up off the snap, Luck makes hurried throws or flushed out of the pocket almost every play. Either Arians needs to come up with shorter, more conservative plays or Grigson gets a Oline.

Until then, INTs will be thrown.

I don't worry about luck throwing while being flushed out of the pocket. He's got that rythm down pat. And yes, he needs more options in the short passing game. My point was, when the pocket collapses and there's no escape, don't force the ball.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Someone already said this, but I'd like to co-sign... that's not 42 hits, it's 42 pressures. And pressures is a somewhat subjective metric. I haven't charted it, but I think 42 is a bit high.   Other things to consider: Did you know that, before Sunday, the Colts hadn't run a single offensive play with the lead? They've been playing from behind a lot, which means more obvious passing situations (almost the entire second half of the opener, for instance), which means more aggressive pass rush.   Also, Luck takes more time to throw than almost every QB in the league, and his average depth of target is deeper than any QB in the league. If QB1 is generally quicker to throw and attempts shorter passes than QB2, you can probably count on QB1 facing a lower rate of pressure than QB2.   This is why, especially with offensive line play, there's no adequate substitute for actually watching the games. Even better is watching other teams play, so you can get good context. The Colts protection hasn't been great, but it's definitely improved. Reitz has been leaky at RT, whether it's due to injury or him just not having it, but he either needs to sit out or get it together, because he's the weak link right now. AC has had troubles, too, but he was better Sunday, and will be fine. There are injury issues at RG, but between Good and Haeg, assuming they get and stay healthy, I think RG will be okay. (I definitely don't want to see anymore snaps of Blythe at RG...)
    • The post was in response to the OP, who basically asked 'what's the worst that could happen?' Yeah, there's lots that can happen, which is the answer whenever someone questions a conservative decision.    The real question is about risk/reward, which is how basically any binary decision should be graded. The risk is something catastrophic happening, and the chances of that were considerable, given the fact that the protection was leaky all day, Luck had given up a sack/fumble/TD at the end of the first half, and he'd thrown a pick earlier in the second quarter. Lots could go wrong.   The reward would be a first down, or even a TD. But on that drive, the offense was a mess, the calls were going against the Colts, and you could assume that any well coached team would be very passive in coverage to avoid a cheap defensive holding penalty for a five yard automatic first down. You never know, but you're playing the odds, and the odds weren't in the Colts favor on that drive.   Besides all that, it's early in the 4th quarter, you have a tight game, you're at home, the defense is actually playing pretty well, especially in the red zone, and your offense has been moving the ball effectively when they avoid big mistakes. The smart play is to flip the field, rely on your defense, and let the offense get the ball back with a chance to deliver the lead. And that was the eventual outcome.   The sequence almost worked out for the Colts, by the way. The Chargers muffed the punt and the Colts almost recovered.    I know fans always want to see the team go 'pedal to the metal,' but the Colts did the smart thing there. (Fans in LOS were even booing when the Colts kneeled it out at the end of the first half, which is a ridiculous response, IMO.) 
    • I bet we can thank one Mr. Hilton for that, just as we thanked Reggie for TY's growth and Marvin for Reggie's growth.  It's a long great tradition here....
    • ???   You could punt on 2nd and 40 from your own 21 yard line, or you could punt on 4th and 24 from your own 37 yard line. How is one not better than the other?
  • Welcome New Members

  • Members

Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc.