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#121 Superman

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:16 PM

Ballard needs 20 plus carries  game.  He showed me something vs the Texans.  I wasnt to high on him before that game but he has the potential to be a good back in the NFL. 

 

Ballard was very impressive. The spin move in the hole, the speed to the outside, he finished carries, etc. He just didn't have a good game in pass protection, but that's not surprising. He'll get better.

 

The offensive line also did a nice job, and was probably more physical than I can remember them being all year. We were actually crushing guys in the run game for most of the game. The line gets a lot of flack, and most of it is well-deserved, but they deserve some credit for their run blocking on Sunday.


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#122 AntonMcG

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:54 PM

I personally am a fan of the Arians offense. The problem is we do not have the personel in place yet, but a year of Luck playing in this can only benefit him, I believe he s far too mentally strong to ever suffer from David Carr syndrome, one of the biggest traits associated with Luck out of college was how he could have a short memory and forget mistakes and get on with it.

 

Obviously when you are in a vertical offense you need time to let the play develop, I believe Grigson needs to be as aggressive as possible to ensure we turn one of the worst o-lines into one of the best, which is certainly possible with all the o-line men available in the draft and free agency, this would also make teams respect the run game more to set up play-action which should be a vital component in this Arians offense.

 

I'd also love us to bring in Wallace in FA as he thrived in Arians' system.



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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:01 PM

I personally am a fan of the Arians offense. The problem is we do not have the personel in place yet, but a year of Luck playing in this can only benefit him, I believe he s far too mentally strong to ever suffer from David Carr syndrome, one of the biggest traits associated with Luck out of college was how he could have a short memory and forget mistakes and get on with it.

 

Obviously when you are in a vertical offense you need time to let the play develop, I believe Grigson needs to be as aggressive as possible to ensure we turn one of the worst o-lines into one of the best, which is certainly possible with all the o-line men available in the draft and free agency, this would also make teams respect the run game more to set up play-action which should be a vital component in this Arians offense.

 

I'd also love us to bring in Wallace in FA as he thrived in Arians' system.

 

 

 

 

The only problem I have only recently noticed is that there are not very many quality O-lineman available this yr. in free agency. There is Ryan Clady and Jermon Bushrod, but those guys are virtual locks to return to their respective teams. As far as guards that are available(which IMO is the main problem) there really isn't anyone worth even wasting our time and money on. Maybe Grigson can work a trade or 2 for a couple of quality guards, but I doubt it. 

 

As far as Mike Wallace is concerned. Don't want him and don't need him. We already have 2 small speedy receivers with Hilton and Brazill. Both of which, I feel can be just as good as Wallace.


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:10 PM

The only problem I have only recently noticed is that there are not very many quality O-lineman available this yr. in free agency. There is Ryan Clady and Jermon Bushrod, but those guys are virtual locks to return to their respective teams. As far as guards that are available(which IMO is the main problem) there really isn't anyone worth even wasting our time and money on. Maybe Grigson can work a trade or 2 for a couple of quality guards, but I doubt it. 

 

As far as Mike Wallace is concerned. Don't want him and don't need him. We already have 2 small speedy receivers with Hilton and Brazill. Both of which, I feel can be just as good as Wallace.

 

Indeed, and we are not the only team looking for better pass/run blocking lineman.  We don't have to have stars, we just need quality guys.  Can win their fair share of the battles, not get blown up nearly every down.  And hopefully they're durable too.  We can survive on that. Grigson?  I trust you to be able to find these guys...

 

Wallace is a luxury purchase.  We need to stock the shelf with staples first. :)


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:23 PM

Ballard was very impressive. The spin move in the hole, the speed to the outside, he finished carries, etc. He just didn't have a good game in pass protection, but that's not surprising. He'll get better.

 

The offensive line also did a nice job, and was probably more physical than I can remember them being all year. We were actually crushing guys in the run game for most of the game. The line gets a lot of flack, and most of it is well-deserved, but they deserve some credit for their run blocking on Sunday.

 

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#126 AntonMcG

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:23 PM

The only problem I have only recently noticed is that there are not very many quality O-lineman available this yr. in free agency. There is Ryan Clady and Jermon Bushrod, but those guys are virtual locks to return to their respective teams. As far as guards that are available(which IMO is the main problem) there really isn't anyone worth even wasting our time and money on. Maybe Grigson can work a trade or 2 for a couple of quality guards, but I doubt it. 

 

As far as Mike Wallace is concerned. Don't want him and don't need him. We already have 2 small speedy receivers with Hilton and Brazill. Both of which, I feel can be just as good as Wallace.

I don't agree. Jake Long has had a bad year because he doesn't suit a West Coast style blocking scheme. He has had one bad year, won't be kept on next year by Miami, but don't forget before this season he was considered arguably the best LT in the league, and he's only 27. As for Guards, Andy Levitre is easily one of the best in the league. I think they are both attainable and would be HUGE upgrades. I'd still love Warnack in the draft as well. O-Line is so so important in this style of offense.



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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:17 PM

I don't agree. Jake Long has had a bad year because he doesn't suit a West Coast style blocking scheme. He has had one bad year, won't be kept on next year by Miami, but don't forget before this season he was considered arguably the best LT in the league, and he's only 27. As for Guards, Andy Levitre is easily one of the best in the league. I think they are both attainable and would be HUGE upgrades. I'd still love Warnack in the draft as well. O-Line is so so important in this style of offense.

 

 

 

Im not a fan of Long, even before this season he had allowed 50 some sacks in just about as many career games. IMO he is highly over rated. As far as Levitre, Im not sure he fits our man blocking scheme, they use a zone blocking scheme in Buffalo. He may be able to do it and if Grigson brings him here I'll trust him.


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