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#1 BayAreaBronco

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:21 AM

Sez Mark Barron:

Peyton Manning has a seven-game winning streak. He has 29 touchdowns this season, a Broncos team record, putting him ahead of John Elway. The adjustments Manning made during last week's game against Tampa Bay left Buccaneers players stunned.

"It was amazing, almost like I thought he was cheating," safety Mark Barron told the Tampa Tribune. "I was just kind of in amazement that he was able to recognize some the things that we were doing. Most of it was new but he picked up on it and he recognized a lot of the things that we were doing."

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:46 AM

Sez Mark Barron:

Peyton Manning has a seven-game winning streak. He has 29 touchdowns this season, a Broncos team record, putting him ahead of John Elway. The adjustments Manning made during last week's game against Tampa Bay left Buccaneers players stunned.

"It was amazing, almost like I thought he was cheating," safety Mark Barron told the Tampa Tribune. "I was just kind of in amazement that he was able to recognize some the things that we were doing. Most of it was new but he picked up on it and he recognized a lot of the things that we were doing."

Cute!

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

As much as I miss Peyton, it is really nice getting to see him flourish and end his career on a high note. He deserves it as a world class athlete and person. With that being said, I love the new direction of our team.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:17 AM

As much as I miss Peyton, it is really nice getting to see him flourish and end his career on a high note. He deserves it as a world class athlete and person. With that being said, I love the new direction of our team.

You said it. If the Colts can't win the Super Bowl, I want the Broncos to do it. I don't like Elway all that much, but Peyton deserves it.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:58 AM

He forgot to use his cheat codes against the good teams. What a sport

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:30 PM

He forgot to use his cheat codes against the good teams. What a sport


& also in early games was still developing chemistry and team had many fumbles , Not saying he wopuld have won but I give credit to texans trhis year , u can give credit for Peytons body of accomplishment and way he has performed in his comeback season

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

You said it. If the Colts can't win the Super Bowl, I want the Broncos to do it. I don't like Elway all that much, but Peyton deserves it.


I couldn't agree more!
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:26 PM

Sez Mark Barron:

Peyton Manning has a seven-game winning streak. He has 29 touchdowns this season, a Broncos team record, putting him ahead of John Elway. The adjustments Manning made during last week's game against Tampa Bay left Buccaneers players stunned.

"It was amazing, almost like I thought he was cheating," safety Mark Barron told the Tampa Tribune. "I was just kind of in amazement that he was able to recognize some the things that we were doing. Most of it was new but he picked up on it and he recognized a lot of the things that we were doing."

Cute!

http://www.cbssports...ady-and-peyton/


That's funny. Peyton just cheats..... :D

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:13 PM

& also in early games was still developing chemistry and team had many fumbles


So beating the Steelers in the opener and then the Raiders a few games later was just luck I guess?

Excuses....

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:19 PM

So beating the Steelers in the opener and then the Raiders a few games later was just luck I guess?

Excuses....


they had trouble getting to big ben & stopping him on long 3rd downs and pulled that game out

I am not saying they are better than texans, just better than initial part of season , sorry if u cant see that, I give texans all the credit in the world, guess u cant to others
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:29 PM

they had trouble getting to big ben & stopping him on long 3rd downs and pulled that game out

I am not saying they are better than texans, just better than initial part of season , sorry if u cant see that, I give texans all the credit in the world, guess u cant to others



"B" ..agreed

I think its obvious that If the Colts play at Houston next month,,,,

The Texas wont be seeing the same caliber of team they saw in September..

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:41 PM

they had trouble getting to big ben & stopping him on long 3rd downs and pulled that game out

I am not saying they are better than texans, just better than initial part of season , sorry if u cant see that, I give texans all the credit in the world, guess u cant to others

"B" ..agreed

I think its obvious that If the Colts play at Houston next month,,,,

The Texas wont be seeing the same caliber of team they saw in September..


This is absolutely true. The Broncos will admit that themselves. They've gotten better as chemistry developed in all areas. And it continues to.
Though last night I dreamed that the Texans spanked us again :)

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:46 PM

This is absolutely true. The Broncos will admit that themselves. They've gotten better as chemistry developed in all areas. And it continues to.
Though last night I dreamed that the Texans spanked us again :)


Really? Wow. Must have been that big butt-whipping the Texans took at New England next Monday that inspired them...

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:46 PM

This is absolutely true. The Broncos will admit that themselves. They've gotten better as chemistry developed in all areas. And it continues to.

Though last night I dreamed that the Texans spanked us again :)


Enough during the game & day to think about the fututre, not in ones nightmares

"B" ..agreed

I think its obvious that If the Colts play at Houston next month,,,,

The Texas wont be seeing the same caliber of team they saw in September..


Colts or Broncos , Colts didnt play Texans yet still have 2 left If I have it right week 15 & 17 ,

Broncos & texans played in Sept , the 23rd , 3rd week of seasopn right after falcons

glad agree anyway , maybe u mean if Broncos play Texans in playoffs will be different bronco's team Texans played in sept
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:58 PM

So let me see if I got it

Steelers - Great chemistry
Falcons - Bad chemistry
Texans - More bad chemistry
Raiders - Sweet chemistry!
Patriots - Aw man bad chemistry again
Chargers - Chemistry once more!! Woo woo!


Question is will they suddenly lose their "chemistry" when they play the Ravens and then magically regain it the next week against the Browns...only time will tell.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:10 PM

Really? Wow. Must have been that big butt-whipping the Texans took at New England next Monday that inspired them...

This is absolutely true. The Broncos will admit that themselves. They've gotten better as chemistry developed in all areas. And it continues to.
Though last night I dreamed that the Texans spanked us again :)



So let me see if I got it

Steelers - Great chemistry
Falcons - Bad chemistry
Texans - More bad chemistry
Raiders - Sweet chemistry!
Patriots - Aw man bad chemistry again
Chargers - Chemistry once more!! Woo woo!


Question is will they suddenly lose their "chemistry" when they play the Ravens and then magically regain it the next week against the Browns...only time will tell.





Steelers - Great chemistry never said great at all, but puled game out if u read what i said
Falcons - Bad chemistry , bad ist hafl great second
Texans - More bad chemistry was coming back dont remember partcic ulars
Raiders - Sweet chemistry! played a full game
Patriots - Aw man bad chemistry again fumble on way to opening TD on deep pass to DT & that " could " of channged game * momentum , try come back Mgchaahee drops easy 3rd dwm pass on next to last drive i think , &, next series inside the 5 & Mcahee fumbles
Chargers - Chemistry once more!! Woo woo! only in 2nd half & that changed season


Question is will they suddenly lose their "chemistry" when they play the Ravens and then magically regain it the next week against the Browns...only time will tell. Now that will agree with

Broncos need to learn to play a full game from the start , turnovers have decreased, receiver timing , esp with DT better

Mcahee tough loss as really need his power even thopugh this year diod fumble more than any other, he could of changed thopughg , may have been an aberration & great pass blocker & reciver usually saave for that key drop

Just saying team is better than at start, u cant seem to get that, every TV station says same though i dont love TV people


This is my last comment on this, I dont need to waste my time saying its a better team now than at start and u run off on me, esp when i give texans there respect., is it that colts beat texans for all those Peyton years that u are saying this ??
anyway again thats all opn this subject, better things to do witrh my time
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:16 PM

So let me see if I got it

Steelers - Great chemistry
Falcons - Bad chemistry
Texans - More bad chemistry
Raiders - Sweet chemistry!
Patriots - Aw man bad chemistry again
Chargers - Chemistry once more!! Woo woo!


Question is will they suddenly lose their "chemistry" when they play the Ravens and then magically regain it the next week against the Browns...only time will tell.


Well in my opinion if the Broncos do play the Texans again you won't see the same team you saw in September. :D The Texans are a good team but in the play offs anything can happen and probably will. Just keep rooting for your team as you should and will but don't compare playoff games to what happened in the regular season because that's how disappointments happen. Play off time is when all teams start with a clean slate. :thmup:

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:20 PM

So let me see if I got it

Steelers - Great chemistry
Falcons - Bad chemistry
Texans - More bad chemistry
Raiders - Sweet chemistry!
Patriots - Aw man bad chemistry again
Chargers - Chemistry once more!! Woo woo!


Question is will they suddenly lose their "chemistry" when they play the Ravens and then magically regain it the next week against the Browns...only time will tell.


are you mad because your team doesn't get enough respect or do you just hate the broncos?

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:20 PM

So beating the Steelers in the opener and then the Raiders a few games later was just luck I guess?

Excuses....


The Steelers are good, but nothing special. And Oakland... Do I really need to say anything? Osweiler could have beaten them.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:21 PM

So let me see if I got it

Steelers - Great chemistry
Falcons - Bad chemistry
Texans - More bad chemistry
Raiders - Sweet chemistry!
Patriots - Aw man bad chemistry again
Chargers - Chemistry once more!! Woo woo!


Question is will they suddenly lose their "chemistry" when they play the Ravens and then magically regain it the next week against the Browns...only time will tell.


What will Houston lose when New England gets a hold of them Monday night???

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:22 PM

So let me see if I got it

Steelers - Great chemistry
Falcons - Bad chemistry
Texans - More bad chemistry
Raiders - Sweet chemistry!
Patriots - Aw man bad chemistry again
Chargers - Chemistry once more!! Woo woo!


Question is will they suddenly lose their "chemistry" when they play the Ravens and then magically regain it the next week against the Browns...only time will tell.


Did the Texans lose their chemistry against the Jags and the Lions?

Teams have ups and downs. So do quarterbacks. Doesn't change the fact that the Broncos are doing pretty good, nor does it change the fact that Manning's play at quarterback has been a huge benefit to them.

And speaking to the development of the team, it's obvious that they are better now than they were even in Week 1 against the Steelers. I'd say the same thing about the Pats, the Bengals, the Niners, etc. It's a long season. I don't see why it's so hard to believe that the Broncos have improved since earlier in the season. And I doubt you'd find it very comforting that the Texans beat the Broncos earlier this season if you wind up playing them in the postseason. The Texans are a really good team, capable of beating anyone in the AFC, but that's got little to do with how you played against the Broncos two and a half months ago.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:25 PM

we really should have more respect world champion Texans....

I remember when they used to win the Super Bowl every year..with Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin. Legends.


Oh wait? Am I confused? :scratch:

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:27 PM

As much as I miss Peyton, it is really nice getting to see him flourish and end his career on a high note. He deserves it as a world class athlete and person. With that being said, I love the new direction of our team.


The only Denver-Indy match I could tolerate would be in the AFC title game

....but then, you know what everybody would say ???




.....what happened to Houston???

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 03:30 PM

we really should have more respect world champion Texans....

I remember when they used to win the Super Bowl every year..with Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith and Michael Irvin. Legends.


Oh wait? Am I confused? :scratch:


yeah, that was the san antonio spurs

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:22 PM

First 6 games, Broncos gave up 23 points per game. You might as well wash out the Raiders game because the Raiders are and might still not be a competitive team.

That means the Broncos gave up 133 points over 5 of those 6 games for a whopping 26.5 points per game. Next 6 games, Broncos have given up 18 points per game.

To me, the improvement of the D is a key difference.

Next, their center and right guard positions. J.D.Walton went down during game 4. Dan Koppen, the ex-Patriot at center, has been a better fit for the no huddle than J.D.Walton. Their right guard Chris Kuper came back for the 1st Chargers game, I think, and has been out of the line up since the 2nd Chargers game. I have to admit that the Chargers, in their 2nd game vs the Broncos, played real hard and still came up short, I could see it in their defensive intensity. I believe the wind probably got knocked out of their sails after they gave it all and still came up short. McGahee was lost for the season in that game and Chris Kuper went back to the injury list after that game as well.

It was not like the Bucs were not a red hot team coming into the Broncos game and the Broncos took care of business, as usual. Yes, it is hard to put up 30 points every week, even an experienced team like the Pats put up just 23 vs the Dolphins on the road while the Titans shellacked them. Each game assumes its own dynamic and matchups.

Last but not least, they have gotten 2 TDs out of their special teams and some good field position due to Trindon Holliday for their offense. He was acquired, I think, around the 1st Chargers game. Texans fans are familiar with him. He started by fumbling once (or twice but he lost it once), and 2 ST fumbles within their own 20 gave Chargers 14 easy points. Then came the MNF comeback, the bye week to work on stability on O, D and ST. Then they start by crushing the Saints 34-14, get 2 ST TDs with Holliday in the Bengals and Panthers games, and their ST play has improved.

To me, the key differences are the improvement in the Broncos D and the improvement in O-line play of the Broncos thus leading to more efficient offense, and improved ST play helping with field position. The numbers reflect it.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 04:48 PM

First 6 games, Broncos gave up 23 points per game. You might as well wash out the Raiders game because the Raiders are and might still not be a competitive team.

That means the Broncos gave up 133 points over 5 of those 6 games for a whopping 26.5 points per game. Next 6 games, Broncos have given up 18 points per game.

To me, the improvement of the D is a key difference.

Next, their center and right guard positions. J.D.Walton went down during game 4. Dan Koppen, the ex-Patriot at center, has been a better fit for the no huddle than J.D.Walton. Their right guard Chris Kuper came back for the 1st Chargers game, I think, and has been out of the line up since the 2nd Chargers game. I have to admit that the Chargers, in their 2nd game vs the Broncos, played real hard and still came up short, I could see it in their defensive intensity. I believe the wind probably got knocked out of their sails after they gave it all and still came up short. McGahee was lost for the season in that game and Chris Kuper went back to the injury list after that game as well.

It was not like the Bucs were not a red hot team coming into the Broncos game and the Broncos took care of business, as usual. Yes, it is hard to put up 30 points every week, even an experienced team like the Pats put up just 23 vs the Dolphins on the road while the Titans shellacked them. Each game assumes its own dynamic and matchups.

Last but not least, they have gotten 2 TDs out of their special teams and some good field position due to Trindon Holliday for their offense. He was acquired, I think, around the 1st Chargers game. Texans fans are familiar with him. He started by fumbling once (or twice but he lost it once), and 2 ST fumbles within their own 20 gave Chargers 14 easy points. Then came the MNF comeback, the bye week to work on stability on O, D and ST. Then they start by crushing the Saints 34-14, get 2 ST TDs with Holliday in the Bengals and Panthers games, and their ST play has improved.

To me, the key differences are the improvement in the Broncos D and the improvement in O-line play of the Broncos thus leading to more efficient offense, and improved ST play helping with field position. The numbers reflect it.


I think kuper had stayed in once he came back but did always have ankle issues or may have left for 1 game again, not sure, but he may not play tonight however and was downgraded today from probable to questionable as u may have seen , i quoted u so u can see it where i posted it in Denver -10+ etc

anyway like and agree with most of what u say, but 1 on this site just wont listen to anything, & i have losst respect for, maybe i never had and just always give all the benefit of the doubt but this thread got way out of hand by saying a simple concept , all i know but 1, & i mean all on this site & tv & newspaers & respected analysts agree with but person who i shall not name & now know dont need to ever bother to answer, he can have the last word if wants as doesnt deserve my time or respect to answer
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:46 PM

That's why they play the game. When the Broncos meet the Texans, well we'll all know the truth. Some of us know it already, and some of us are in denial (cough.....Texans fans......cough), but that's okay :thmup:
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 06:56 PM

I ask for LINKS not quotes because I don't have time to read all your post. No LOL needed just links please. I would like to see them myself thank you.


Why do you want to see them? And they are in this thread

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:07 AM

Well, I will say this; it is a good thing that the NFL isn't set up like the BCS..lol. In all fairness, I believe that you just go out and beat who you are scheduled to and Peyton has looked good pounding cupcakes. I just hope that they make it past the first game. Not saying that they won't but lets just see.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 11:38 AM

Well, I will say this; it is a good thing that the NFL isn't set up like the BCS..lol. In all fairness, I believe that you just go out and beat who you are scheduled to and Peyton has looked good pounding cupcakes. I just hope that they make it past the first game. Not saying that they won't but lets just see.


If they beat Baltimore in Baltimore, you have to give some respect for that road win. If, in the minds of folks, only the Pats and Texans are elite, then there is only one way to prove it in the playoffs for the Broncos - beat them in the playoffs.

I have a hard time believing that the Texans, Pats and Broncos cannot hang with the best in the NFC in the SB, but that is just me. :)

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:23 PM

There's more passion for the Broncolts in this thread than there is for the Colts in most threads.. lol. I miss Peyton also, but we all know none of the smack talkers are looking forward to seeing him in the playoffs (except me, :rock:)
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#34 Susie Q

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:35 PM

There's more passion for the Broncolts in this thread than there is for the Colts in most threads.. lol. I miss Peyton also, but we all know none of the smack talkers are looking forward to seeing him in the playoffs (except me, :rock:)


Well considering that this is the NFL Section and that is where all non Colts Post are to be posted I guess that is why your not seeing Luck or Colts post in this section. They have their own section and it's full of Colts post.

PS The title of the thread is Peyton is so Good. Go Figure haha

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 03:41 PM

The 2012 Broncos = the 2001-2010 Colts....his WR's are 88 and 87 there too..IRONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:07 PM

The 2012 Broncos = the 2001-2010 Colts....his WR's are 88 and 87 there too..IRONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Does that mean they will go 1-1 in SBs while Peyton is there? :)

I am sure Broncos fans will take that.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:11 PM

If they beat Baltimore in Baltimore, you have to give some respect for that road win. If, in the minds of folks, only the Pats and Texans are elite, then there is only one way to prove it in the playoffs for the Broncos - beat them in the playoffs.

I have a hard time believing that the Texans, Pats and Broncos cannot hang with the best in the NFC in the SB, but that is just me. :)

I have no doubt about the Texans or Pats. I just want to see how the Broncos do against good teams. If they beat Baltimore convincingly, then I have no doubts, but it is some truth that they have struggled against good teams. (and the Chiefs..lol. Romeo still got it when it comes to slowing down Peyton Manning)
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:14 PM

Well considering that this is the NFL Section and that is where all non Colts Post are to be posted I guess that is why your not seeing Luck or Colts post in this section. They have their own section and it's full of Colts post.

PS The title of the thread is Peyton is so Good. Go Figure haha


"most threads" being all the threads on the board.

I gotcha ya though!
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#39 Susie Q

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:19 PM

"most threads" being all the threads on the board.

I gotcha ya though!


Now I understand friend.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:44 PM

The 2012 Broncos = the 2001-2010 Colts....his WR's are 88 and 87 there too..IRONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


with 3 ex-Colts starting for Denver,,,,,including our 12-year QB.....

it would be odd if many Colts fans DIDNT have passion for Denver...

But there's enough to pull for both Denver and Indy...

I have to say that the paralell ressurrections stories of the Colts and Peyton have made this one of my favorites all-time seasons...

..and to have 2 'Indy-flavored' teams in a 6-team playoff...

......this really is a lot of fun...






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