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#1 oldunclemark

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:26 PM

When I see CJ play, he is pretty much as effective vs. 2-man or bracket coverage as he is vs. single press coverage...

He's not overly fast....he just goes up above anyone you put on him and grabs the ball..

I'd put Vontae Davis on him (even though he's 6 inches shorter) and send an extra blitzer at Stafford......especially near the goal line and to try to get quick throws......with a heavy rush..

we got Davis to stick the other teams top receiver...let him try it


...there arent a lot of good options agianst the No.1 passer and the No.1 receiver...indoors

what do you think?

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#2 SteelCityColt

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:28 PM

I can see your logic, I've seen plenty of footage of Megatron beating out double coverage with his vertical ability. Teams have tried to double Reggie against us this season and it's not always worked.

He's too good be to stopped, at least if you can rush Stafford you might be able to slow him down a little.

#3 Stephen

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

forget cj he stops himself sometimes with dropped passes Id single cover him and send blitzes at stafford all game

#4 lollygagger8

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:32 PM

It doesn't matter if we assign duct tape and velcro to Megatron. He's going to catch everything and have a monster day against us.

I agree. Send extra pass rushers and hurry Stafford and hope for errant throws.

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:47 PM

Having Vonate back healthy will be the key.

When Vontae has been healthy, he has done a fair job of slowing down receivers.

With Zibby out, either Lefeged or Sergio Brown will definitely have to step up their games tremendously.
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#6 BrentMc11

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:48 PM

It doesn't matter if we assign duct tape and velcro to Megatron. He's going to catch everything and have a monster day against us.

I agree. Send extra pass rushers and hurry Stafford and hope for errant throws.

I use this term loosely.....but I would head hunt with a safety or LB (Time for an Angerer sighting?)......the Lions use the same Mega-tron plays over and over. Freeman will sneak in at least once to get Stafford. I feel a Mathis strip or the first sack ever for D Free against the Lions making an impact.

With the D-line a wreck, we need the disguised and undisguised blitz to hurt the Lions. :colts: :colts: :colts:

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#7 BrentMc11

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:50 PM

Having Vonate back healthy will be the key.

When Vontae has been healthy, he has done a fair job of slowing down receivers.

With Zibby out, either Lefeged or Sergio Brown will definitely have to step up their games tremendously.

And Lefeged has a bad toe too.......is it possible we will see Brown and Delano Howell out there.....? Say it is not so...... :???: :???: :???: :peek:

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#8 krunk

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:11 PM

It could possibly work, but then again we could get Chicago Bears game Vontae. I think Marshall won that matchup. And before you say anything I know it was Vontaes first game.

#9 oldunclemark

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 01:14 PM

I use this term loosely.....but I would head hunt with a safety or LB (Time for an Angerer sighting?)......the Lions use the same Mega-tron plays over and over. Freeman will sneak in at least once to get Stafford. I feel a Mathis strip or the first sack ever for D Free against the Lions making an impact.

With the D-line a wreck, we need the disguised and undisguised blitz to hurt the Lions. :colts: :colts: :colts:


Near the goal line..I've seen linebackers on Johnson because he's going to jump up over your CB...every time

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:43 PM

Mix up the blitzing. CJ has good hands but does not catch everything. I don't see how double coverage will help either, he can just as easily jump over 2 players as 1, it's really up to him if he catches it or not. So lets get the throw off target.

#11 Gavin

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:09 PM

The key is to get to Stafford, we dont have a Corner on the roster that can shut Johnson down or slow him down at this point, Vontae has ability but is still growing up and into his abilites

#12 The Fish

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:14 PM

2 unknown WR's lining up with Johnson and no running game so to speak. Double team Johnson. Easy choice.
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#13 krunk

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:15 PM

Honestly, I think we will mostly play 2 man for the majority of the game against Johnson with some selective blitzing. We will probably dare them to run. I don't have a whole lot of respect for Leshoure. I think we'll bottle him up.

#14 coltsrule91

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 04:16 PM

stopping stafford to johnson is like stopping manning to harrison. its not happening

its not T.Y its T.watttttttttt WHAT DID T JUST DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


#15 TMPHBITEU

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:43 PM

stopping stafford to johnson is like stopping manning to harrison. its not happening


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#16 coltsrule91

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:45 PM

Oh, no you didn't!


other then maybe dalton to green i cant think of a better qb/wr combo

its not T.Y its T.watttttttttt WHAT DID T JUST DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


#17 funktacious2

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:31 PM

This game definitely looks destined to have to be a shootout in order to have any chance at winning. I just can't envision Megatron having anything less that a fantastic game, but if we can limit the running game and the other receivers, we can maybe stay in this one.

#18 Robin

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:29 PM

other then maybe dalton to green i cant think of a better qb/wr combo


brady to moss?

#19 coltsrule91

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 09:33 PM

brady to moss?


that lasted three seasons. stafford to johnson will be stable for 10-15 years

its not T.Y its T.watttttttttt WHAT DID T JUST DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


#20 Robin

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:00 PM

that lasted three seasons. stafford to johnson will be stable for 10-15 years


you don't know that, and Dalton green haven't played for any longer.

Montana - Rice?

#21 coltsrule91

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:04 PM

you don't know that, and Dalton green haven't played for any longer.

Montana - Rice?


but they will and the way their playing together, their gonna be something to watch for years to come

its not T.Y its T.watttttttttt WHAT DID T JUST DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


#22 Robin

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:31 PM

but they will and the way their playing together, their gonna be something to watch for years to come


I agree, but that was not the discussion

#23 coltsrule91

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 10:40 PM

I agree, but that was not the discussion


i didnt mean to say their the best combo ever just that their as hard to stop as manning to harrison

its not T.Y its T.watttttttttt WHAT DID T JUST DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


#24 oldunclemark

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:03 PM

I heard Brian Billick says that its standard operating proceedure in the NFL that you 'rotate' to speed and 'bracket' ability..

meaning you rotate coverage to very fast receivers and double team (bracket coverage, short and deep) a great catcher who isnt as fast


...Still I dont think 2 defenders near Johnson are any better than one if the ball is thrown accurately and high






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