Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

bayone

Von ( doom ) Miller Takes Home Second DPOW Award

11 posts in this topic

On the strength of a three-sack performance against the San Diego Chargers, linebacker Von Miller took home his second career Defensive Player of the Week Award for Week 11.

In addition to sacking Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers three times last Sunday, he forced two fumbles and registered six tackles — two of which were for a loss.

Miller’s three sacks led the AFC for the week, and he is now the only AFC player to record at least three sacks and two forced fumbles in a game in 2012.

He currently ranks second in the NFL and first in the AFC with 13 sacks while leading the league with 23 tackles for a loss.

http://blog.denverbr...ond-dpow-award/

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

On the strength of a three-sack performance against the San Diego Chargers, linebacker Von Miller took home his second career Defensive Player of the Week Award for Week 11.

In addition to sacking Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers three times last Sunday, he forced two fumbles and registered six tackles — two of which were for a loss.

Miller’s three sacks led the AFC for the week, and he is now the only AFC player to record at least three sacks and two forced fumbles in a game in 2012.

He currently ranks second in the NFL and first in the AFC with 13 sacks while leading the league with 23 tackles for a loss.

http://blog.denverbr...ond-dpow-award/

Yay, Von!

23 TFL is by far the best among linebackers (L. David and A. Smith both have 13). He is also tied for first in forced fumbles (4), second for QB hits (17). No sophomore slump for Von.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Aldon Smith had a monday night record 5.5 sacks + a FF v. a 7-2 Bears club and Miller gets it? Love me some Von Miller but Smith is coming off the best defensive performance the NFL has seen in a long, long time. Perhaps it is because he is overshadowed by the other big-names on that defense...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Aldon Smith had a monday night record 5.5 sacks + a FF v. a 7-2 Bears club and Miller gets it? Love me some Von Miller but Smith is coming off the best defensive performance the NFL has seen in a long, long time. Perhaps it is because he is overshadowed by the other big-names on that defense...

understand your point, Millewr had tons of pressure on Rivers too, I dont know what else smith did as didnt watch game

Maybe was also because against A sub QB , or as u say that entire D is lights out , I was hoping that would be where Peyton went , think easier to win SB there but then again he wouldnt have freedom he likes in running offense and hes not a big city person, he has a good life, that in the end is what counts

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Aldon Smith had a monday night record 5.5 sacks + a FF v. a 7-2 Bears club and Miller gets it? Love me some Von Miller but Smith is coming off the best defensive performance the NFL has seen in a long, long time. Perhaps it is because he is overshadowed by the other big-names on that defense...

Other than TFL stats I mentioned above, here is what IOAFM says:

By PFF's accounting, Von has 61 pressures (13 sacks, 11 hits, 37 hurries) in 663 snaps (9.2%), while Smith has 43 pressures (15 sacks, 9 hits, 19 hurries) in 618 snaps 7.0%). It's not exactly a close call. The site's grades say the same thing - they have Von at +60.1, and Smith at +14.6.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Other than TFL stats I mentioned above, here is what IOAFM says:

By PFF's accounting, Von has 61 pressures (13 sacks, 11 hits, 37 hurries) in 663 snaps (9.2%), while Smith has 43 pressures (15 sacks, 9 hits, 19 hurries) in 618 snaps 7.0%). It's not exactly a close call. The site's grades say the same thing - they have Von at +60.1, and Smith at +14.6.

1) this is a defensive player of the week award, not DPOY. No argument can be made that Miller had a better game than Smith.

2) stats are useless. There are too many variables outside the players' control that effect the stats, which are often times difficult to measure in the first place (i.e. how close does one have to be for a pressure?). For example, Miller plays vs worse teams than Smith (AFC West is by far worst division, nfc is much better than afc), Smith competes with other studs on that D for plays, etc. Stickin with the niners, pat willis and justin smith are good examples of players with massive impacts who have lesser stats than infefior players who play the same position...heck Andrew Luc has a QBR below 80 but he is the best rookie Qb I have ever seen, even with RG3 and RW posting QBRs of 90+...

Von Miller is amazing.....total stud....potential HOFer at this rate....but lets not pretend he is way better than Aldon SMith. Watching both these guys play, it is clear both are probably the best at their position right now

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1) this is a defensive player of the week award, not DPOY. No argument can be made that Miller had a better game than Smith.

2) stats are useless. There are too many variables outside the players' control that effect the stats, which are often times difficult to measure in the first place (i.e. how close does one have to be for a pressure?). For example, Miller plays vs worse teams than Smith (AFC West is by far worst division, nfc is much better than afc), Smith competes with other studs on that D for plays, etc. Stickin with the niners, pat willis and justin smith are good examples of players with massive impacts who have lesser stats than infefior players who play the same position...heck Andrew Luc has a QBR below 80 but he is the best rookie Qb I have ever seen, even with RG3 and RW posting QBRs of 90+...

Von Miller is amazing.....total stud....potential HOFer at this rate....but lets not pretend he is way better than Aldon SMith. Watching both these guys play, it is clear both are probably the best at their position right now

1) Sure. I'm more reacting at Smith's attitude toward Von Miller. I thought, dude, sack is just one thing of many.

2) Stats are not useless but it's misleading a lot of the times. I don't think Denver's schedule has been easier than the Niner's thus far. It is now beginning to really ease. My feeling is that Denver has played against better O lines than the Niiners has so far too. But obviously I don't watch or follow all NFL teams, so this is just my impression, which is often wrong admittedly. One thing I agree with you, though, is Andrew Luck is the best rookie QB I've ever seen.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1) Sure. I'm more reacting at Smith's attitude toward Von Miller. I thought, dude, sack is just one thing of many.

2) Stats are not useless but it's misleading a lot of the times. I don't think Denver's schedule has been easier than the Niner's thus far. It is now beginning to really ease. My feeling is that Denver has played against better O lines than the Niiners has so far too. But obviously I don't watch or follow all NFL teams, so this is just my impression, which is often wrong admittedly. One thing I agree with you, though, is Andrew Luck is the best rookie QB I've ever seen.

1) this is a defensive player of the week award, not DPOY. No argument can be made that Miller had a better game than Smith.

2) stats are useless. There are too many variables outside the players' control that effect the stats, which are often times difficult to measure in the first place (i.e. how close does one have to be for a pressure?). For example, Miller plays vs worse teams than Smith (AFC West is by far worst division, nfc is much better than afc), Smith competes with other studs on that D for plays, etc. Stickin with the niners, pat willis and justin smith are good examples of players with massive impacts who have lesser stats than infefior players who play the same position...heck Andrew Luc has a QBR below 80 but he is the best rookie Qb I have ever seen, even with RG3 and RW posting QBRs of 90+...

Von Miller is amazing.....total stud....potential HOFer at this rate....but lets not pretend he is way better than Aldon SMith. Watching both these guys play, it is clear both are probably the best at their position right now

Dont know where u r getting yopur QBR from but Luck is 3rd behind Brady then Peyton with the later 2 the only ones above 80

http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

people were etching jj watts name on the DOY a little too soon

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

people were etching jj watts name on the DOY a little too soon

1) Sure. I'm more reacting at Smith's attitude toward Von Miller. I thought, dude, sack is just one thing of many.

2) Stats are not useless but it's misleading a lot of the times. I don't think Denver's schedule has been easier than the Niner's thus far. It is now beginning to really ease. My feeling is that Denver has played against better O lines than the Niiners has so far too. But obviously I don't watch or follow all NFL teams, so this is just my impression, which is often wrong admittedly. One thing I agree with you, though, is Andrew Luck is the best rookie QB I've ever seen.

'

JJ had big game today esp with 2 4th qrtr sacks I heard and much pressure

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

JJ had big game today esp with 2 4th qrtr sacks I heard and much pressure

Yeah, I saw that. A great player for sure.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

  • Welcome New Members

    • Member Introductions! (Say Hi!)
      When I first saw this thread, I thought I was late to the party, but then I saw that this thread has been going since 2012.   I'm still late to the party, but story of my life.  I joined in 2015, but have been a Colts fan since I was a kid.   My first Colts memory is getting a hat signed by Quentin Coryatt at training camp, and that same year almost going to the SB.   My favorite Colts memory is beating the Pats to get to the SB in 2006.   Favorite Colts:   1. Peyton Manning 2. Marvin Harrison 3. Reggie Wayne 4. Dallas Clark 5. Brandon Stokely   Needless to say, Peyton (#1) and everyone he threw the ball to (#2-5) won me many, many fantasy football games, and are my guys for eternity.   You might assume from my top 5 Colts that I am a "new-age" "fairweather" fan who only likes offense and points.  You are wrong.  I am grateful for the offensive Renaissance in Indy, but Defense is my passion.  My secret top 5 Colts: Bob Sanders, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Cato June, Gary Brackett.   I want Henry Anderson to help lead a Defensive Renaissance in Indy.  Luck and TY are great, and I hope the OLine is outstanding, but the D is the Key.
    • Member Introductions! (Say Hi!)
      Hey guys,   I have been posting for probably a year or so now.  I reside in Brazil, IN, which is about 20 minutes East of Terre Haute on I-70.  I'm 28 years old and have been a Colts fan since Harbaugh days, but really started following and rooting hard for them after they drafted Manning in 98.  I love our team and my family and I make sure we are ready to rock for every game.  We always have viewing parties at my father-in-laws or my house and are known to holler and scream at the TV!  Hope all is well with all of you, and GO COLTS!
  • Members

    • cgi4life

      cgi4life 9

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • throwing BBZ

      throwing BBZ 1,040

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • GoColtsWin

      GoColtsWin 56

      Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • 21isSuperman

      21isSuperman 8,746

      Moderators
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Restored

      Restored 873

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Flash

      Flash 91

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • Coltsfan1953

      Coltsfan1953 35

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • GwinnettColt

      GwinnettColt 299

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • dw49

      dw49 2,115

      Senior Member
      Joined:
      Last active:
    • il vecchio

      il vecchio 28

      New Member
      Joined:
      Last active:

Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc.