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#1 GoColts8818

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:43 PM

Per one Phil B.'s twitter I think (I was driving and didn't hear it clearly) that the NFL has fined six players for hits on Luck and he suspects Mayo's fine is coming.

Also reported that Justin Anderson has been activated and TE Kyle Miller has been waived as well as signing a CB to the practice squad. I didn't catch his name.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:52 PM

I hope Anderson can play. We need o-line depth badly.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:57 PM

The CB was Marshay Green. They brought him back and put him on the PS.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:58 PM

I hope Anderson can play. We need o-line depth badly.


I'm not excited about Anderson, based on what I've seen and read. But hopefully he can make something happen.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:58 PM

Didn't even know Kyle Miller was still here. Saunders has been Fairly Good, must've forgot all about Miller

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:01 PM

I hope Anderson can play. We need o-line depth badly.


Agreed. I hope Anderson is as Good as he was back in GA

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:50 PM

Per one Phil B.'s twitter I think (I was driving and didn't hear it clearly) that the NFL has fined six players for hits on Luck and he suspects Mayo's fine is coming.

Also reported that Justin Anderson has been activated and TE Kyle Miller has been waived as well as signing a CB to the practice squad. I didn't catch his name.

6 Patriots?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:55 PM

they should be ejected from the league!

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:56 PM

6 Patriots?


I think he meant 6 total players, not necessarily all Patriots players. Knighton was fined $25,000 it appears for his hit on Luck on the play where Luck's pass was intercepted by Ross and the interception was nullified by the penalty. I don't see where the player (can't remember who it was) that hit Luck when he slid. I hope that doesn't draw a fine. I can see the penalty definitely but there was no malicious intent so I hope that player doesn't get fined. It was a stupid play but he realized it and apologized to Luck

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:10 PM

I think he meant 6 total players, not necessarily all Patriots players. Knighton was fined $25,000 it appears for his hit on Luck on the play where Luck's pass was intercepted by Ross and the interception was nullified by the penalty. I don't see where the player (can't remember who it was) that hit Luck when he slid. I hope that doesn't draw a fine. I can see the penalty definitely but there was no malicious intent so I hope that player doesn't get fined. It was a stupid play but he realized it and apologized to Luck


I believe that was the S Landry that did that. Then they shook hands afterwards on it

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:43 PM

I'm not excited about Anderson, based on what I've seen and read. But hopefully he can make something happen.



I think it encouraging that they activated him. I'm with you on the scouting reports , they are all terrible. However , Grigson says he has the feet of a good LT and if he developes , he will be a joke of a steal in round 7. He really is a " raw" player as he spent time at Georgia playing defense. Boom - bust type player that really has no "bust" considering we only used a 7thon him.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:59 PM

I think he meant 6 total players, not necessarily all Patriots players. Knighton was fined $25,000 it appears for his hit on Luck on the play where Luck's pass was intercepted by Ross and the interception was nullified by the penalty. I don't see where the player (can't remember who it was) that hit Luck when he slid. I hope that doesn't draw a fine. I can see the penalty definitely but there was no malicious intent so I hope that player doesn't get fined. It was a stupid play but he realized it and apologized to Luck


he was fined..and deserved it imo. gotta be smarter than that..just a stupid play. only 10k i believe

i expect arrington to fined for his attempted wussy cheap shot on luck...even phil simms seemed to think arrington made it obvious.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:38 AM

he was fined..and deserved it imo. gotta be smarter than that..just a stupid play. only 10k i believe

i expect arrington to fined for his attempted wussy cheap shot on luck...even phil simms seemed to think arrington made it obvious.


If we're talking about the same play, then I disagree about deserving the fine. Yes it was a stupid play and it drew a penalty, which was justified. However, imo it was not worthy of a fine. In the replay it looked very clear that he did everything he could to avoid contact to Luck's head, and it looked more like shoulder to shoulder to me. There was certainly no intent to injure or anything like that. It was a dumb play and against the rules, since Luck had given himself up with the slide and therefore deserved the penalty. A fine for that play though is over the top and unnecessary, in my opinion.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:49 AM

6 Patriots?

Just said six players but he did say he thinks Mayo's fine is coming which would lead me to think that these were six players outside of the Pats game. They wouldn't announce fines for everyone but one guy. There was a story on espn.com on Sunday morning about Arians saying he was tired of the cheap shots on Luck so it's to me like the league looked into it and agreed with him and went back and issued these fines after that.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:18 AM

Hopefully Good News
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:00 AM

We should put Green on returns. Anything would be an upgrade at this point.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:06 AM

We should put Green on returns. Anything would be an upgrade at this point.


I'm sure the Coaching Staff noticed all the Blunders on ST this week. Some changes may be made, or maybe they won't

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:17 AM

I'm sure the Coaching Staff noticed all the Blunders on ST this week. Some changes may be made, or maybe they won't


Here's hoping!

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:18 AM

I'm sure the Coaching Staff noticed all the Blunders on ST this week. Some changes may be made, or maybe they won't

I agree the return game has been subpar but really Sunday was the first time all year that the coverage units had problems so I would be careful about over correcting those in response to one game.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:02 PM

pat's leg looked weak too. that didn't help matters

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:45 PM

If we're talking about the same play, then I disagree about deserving the fine. Yes it was a stupid play and it drew a penalty, which was justified. However, imo it was not worthy of a fine. In the replay it looked very clear that he did everything he could to avoid contact to Luck's head, and it looked more like shoulder to shoulder to me. There was certainly no intent to injure or anything like that. It was a dumb play and against the rules, since Luck had given himself up with the slide and therefore deserved the penalty. A fine for that play though is over the top and unnecessary, in my opinion.


he did very little to avoid it imo. 1.once he goes int slide mode it's over 2) it's not just the head, it's the whole neck head area

when it comes to qb's and defenseless receivers the guys have to be way more careful...and obviously they're not getting the message. that was just so easy to avoid.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:50 PM

pat's leg looked weak too. that didn't help matters

Maybe Pat's like Sampson and really needs his hair!
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:54 PM

Anderson must be garbage juice because he got waved today...how you get fired on your day off????

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:54 PM

Just said six players but he did say he thinks Mayo's fine is coming which would lead me to think that these were six players outside of the Pats game. They wouldn't announce fines for everyone but one guy. There was a story on espn.com on Sunday morning about Arians saying he was tired of the cheap shots on Luck so it's to me like the league looked into it and agreed with him and went back and issued these fines after that.

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I think it is more cumulative. The kid has been getting more calls than some vets.

I highly doubt that a coach could make a comment and the NFL goes back to issue fines. I would say the 6 would precede anything from the Patriots game, so Mayo is likely # 7.

There haven't been many hits that haven't been called, so Arians must be griping about the contact in general, and there have been some that have been somewhat questionable but the refs are erring on the side of the qb/caution

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:05 PM

Anderson must be garbage juice because he got waved today...how you get fired on your day off????

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:13 PM

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I think it is more cumulative. The kid has been getting more calls than some vets.

I highly doubt that a coach could make a comment and the NFL goes back to issue fines. I would say the 6 would precede anything from the Patriots game, so Mayo is likely # 7.

There haven't been many hits that haven't been called, so Arians must be griping about the contact in general, and there have been some that have been somewhat questionable but the refs are erring on the side of the qb/caution


he gets more call than some vets? merton hanks disagrees

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:47 PM

he gets more call than some vets? merton hanks disagrees


Calls = fines..

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:13 PM

Calls = fines..


I agree 100% FJC with your claim my friend. I just wish that more NFL zebras would call more fines on offensive players who commit penalties against defensive players myself. Often times, the offense gets way to pampered for my tastes. Do these offensive players want milk, cookies, and a bedtime story too?

I'm not mad at you FJC just glaring NFL double standards that I see almost every game. LB's, DE's, & DT's have to make a living and feed their families too.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:04 AM

Calls = fines..


yes, and they were all deserved. u really think merton hanks is playing favorites?

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:07 AM

pat's leg looked weak too. that didn't help matters


Uh oh. Don't be critical of Pat (deserved). Gets people all riled up

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:11 AM

I agree 100% FJC with your claim my friend. I just wish that more NFL zebras would call more fines on offensive players who commit penalties against defensive players myself. Often times, the offense gets way to pampered for my tastes. Do these offensive players want milk, cookies, and a bedtime story too?

I'm not mad at you FJC just glaring NFL double standards that I see almost every game. LB's, DE's, & DT's have to make a living and feed their families too.


it's because for the last 20 or so years defensive players started targeting the head. the nfl always had some players that did that, but imo, it had gotten out of hand. you had sub 200lb corners head hunting.

but i agree to an extent...the nfl should do more when it comes to cut blocking by offensive linemen.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:17 AM

yes, and they were all deserved. u really think merton hanks is playing favorites?

My comment is more about the refs on the field than Merton Hanks. Some of the "flags" have been questionable, and I have seen some vets hit far worse and not even have a flag thrown.

So the flags on the field lead to the fines that come with them.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:28 PM

My comment is more about the refs on the field than Merton Hanks. Some of the "flags" have been questionable, and I have seen some vets hit far worse and not even have a flag thrown.

So the flags on the field lead to the fines that come with them.


well, we disagree....and hanks isn't bound to fine because of a flag.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:29 PM

well, we disagree....and hanks isn't bound to fine because of a flag.

Obviously.

Of course, that disagreement could easily be based on the amount of football watched each week. I've just seen Luck get calls that others haven't.

No he isn't, but there are more cases that fines come from penalties that were flagged than than those caused by plays that go unflagged.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:19 PM

Obviously.

Of course, that disagreement could easily be based on the amount of football watched each week. I've just seen Luck get calls that others haven't.

No he isn't, but there are more cases that fines come from penalties that were flagged than than those caused by plays that go unflagged.


i watch a crap ton

well, that would only be logical. i mean the refs are bad, but they aren't that bad...

nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:39 PM

it's because for the last 20 or so years defensive players started targeting the head. the nfl always had some players that did that, but imo, it had gotten out of hand. you had sub 200lb corners head hunting.

but i agree to an extent...the nfl should do more when it comes to cut blocking by offensive linemen.


I agree with your premise BloodontheTRACKS,but if they are defensive players are restricted from head hunting, they start targeting the knees & lower body of offensive players next. Equally as bad or worse if you ask me. I have no solution here, but if a players head is targeted, you might actually see it coming before the collision occurs at least...The body can brace itself for impact.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:47 PM

I don't agree with the fines that are brought against contact with any QB.

Most things I see now are pretty harmless hits to the QB, relatively.

With concussions the NFL is just trying to protect themselves from more lawsuits.

And depending on what player it is like a pro bowl caliber player getting fined 25 grand, that is chump change for the player.

Mostly just a waste of time, and the refs shouldn't be so flag happy for any kind of hit to the QB.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:58 PM

Like Joker has said many times, & he is exactly right, Roger Goodell & the NFL are using all this talk about play safety/new helmet design research etc. seems meant to distract the public & prevent NFL players from filing class action lawsuits against the league for sustained memory loss issues as a result of concussion problems. Safety vs profit & profit wins hands down every single time. Just my 2 :2c: anyway.

I guess you could make the counter argument that all players know the risks involved & they are well compensated for their on the field occupational contributions I guess. It's like smokers. Light up as often as you want, but don't cry me a river & expect people to save your caboose from a painful demise once you contract lung or throat cancer right? Point taken...
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:59 PM

I agree with your premise BloodontheTRACKS,but if they are defensive players are restricted from head hunting, they start targeting the knees & lower body of offensive players next. Equally as bad or worse if you ask me. I have no solution here, but if a players head is targeted, you might actually see it coming before the collision occurs at least...The body can brace itself for impact.


i don't agree with that at all. lowering the head or moving it to the side a couple inches is not a big deal when the offensive player is in a defenseless position....and that is the only time they are protected. even ted brushi, a hard nose player in his day, said the same thing on espn radio today. i know a lot of defensive players will rant and rave, but they will adjust and the game will be fine. i remember when players acted like it was impossible for a pass rusher to pull up under 3-4 steps....now they magically do it fine.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:10 PM

I don't agree with the fines that are brought against contact with any QB.

Most things I see now are pretty harmless hits to the QB, relatively.

With concussions the NFL is just trying to protect themselves from more lawsuits.

And depending on what player it is like a pro bowl caliber player getting fined 25 grand, that is chump change for the player.

Mostly just a waste of time, and the refs shouldn't be so flag happy for any kind of hit to the QB.


I always laugh when I hear someone say "Can you imagine what the NFL & the zebras would do if Deacon Jones played today with his headslap technique?" haha

Referees would throw their shoulders out tossing yellow flags. Deacon Jones, by today's standards, would be expelled & exiled from the NFL.
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