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#1 coltsguy510

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:49 PM

Let's assume that we make the playoffs and are picking from 21 to 32. Who do we select?

1. Chance Warmack
2. Kenny Vaccaro
3. Dion Jordan
4. Justin Hunter
5. Shawn Williams
6. Jesse Williams
7. Jonathan Banks
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:53 PM

Chance Warmack would be nice.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:57 PM

Chance Warmack would be nice.

I personally would want him or Jordan.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:18 PM

Warmack or Jones in the first or Alex Okafor, Walter Football has him a potential late first round pick

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:22 PM

Jonathan Banks is a zone guy.

I want Matt Elam.
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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:23 PM

haha Id love to pick 32 and take warmack or Jones or someone else who has fallen to us

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:42 PM

Chance Warmack would be my #1 choice if we are picking that late. If a very good defensive pass rusher is there I think we consider that. Dont know if Bjoern Werner or Damontre Moore would last that long.

If all those players are gone, then I wouldnt mind the best safety available like Vacarro or Elam possibly after a trade down.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:56 PM

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:45 PM

Warmack is not going to last until #21.

I know DeCastro lasted until #24 last year. But each draft is different. And that draft had a lot of top tier talent (Luck, RG3, Richardson, Kalil) there's none of that this year.

Plus, you've got lots of players at downgraded positions who are ranked in the top 10-15 of the draft. (Loutulele, Hankins, Jenkins, Te'o, Warmack) that means those players are grading out higher than the players at the more desired positions.

That tells me this is not a very good draft, and so teams will take the best player regardless of position. That's my hunch at least.

The downside of all this winning is what it will mean in the upcoming draft. I don't think Warmack falls far enough for us to take.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 12:06 AM

Chance Warmack would be the ideal guy. Him and Decastro are the best guards to come out of college in the last 8 years. He hasn't allowed anything past him. Castonzo and Justice are gradually getting more and more comfortable with their positions (and getting better too), so getting a potential pro bowl guard could just make the Colts' line one of the best in the league.

The second choice would be John Jenkins, a 355 pound NT who plays on one of the better Ds in the nation. Not very athletic but commands double teams and is a disruptive force.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 12:18 AM

Im looking at several possibilities in the first round

1.Okafor
2.Barrett Jones
3.Chance Warmack (I think if we finish with a 25th or lower draft pick we wont have a chance)
4.Werner
5.Jake Matthews

3rd round possibilities are (in my opinion)
1.Brandon Jenkins
2.Devin Taylor
3.Ricky Wagner
4.Alex Hurst

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 12:56 AM

Warmack is not going to last until #21.

I know DeCastro lasted until #24 last year. But each draft is different. And that draft had a lot of top tier talent (Luck, RG3, Richardson, Kalil) there's none of that this year.

Plus, you've got lots of players at downgraded positions who are ranked in the top 10-15 of the draft. (Loutulele, Hankins, Jenkins, Te'o, Warmack) that means those players are grading out higher than the players at the more desired positions.

That tells me this is not a very good draft, and so teams will take the best player regardless of position. That's my hunch at least.

The downside of all this winning is what it will mean in the upcoming draft. I don't think Warmack falls far enough for us to take.
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warmack is a guard...it's very possible that he will be available, their positional value just isn't that high. then again i can't see the cowboys passing on him. and don't fret about draft position...looking at past drafts it's hilarious when you see who went where

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 12:58 AM

Im looking at several possibilities in the first round

1.Okafor
2.Barrett Jones
3.Chance Warmack (I think if we finish with a 25th or lower draft pick we wont have a chance)
4.Werner
5.Jake Matthews

3rd round possibilities are (in my opinion)
1.Brandon Jenkins
2.Devin Taylor
3.Ricky Wagner
4.Alex Hurst


is anybody respectable giving barret jones a first round grade? and at this point werner is easily a top 10 pick

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:01 AM

is anybody respectable giving barret jones a first round grade? and at this point werner is easily a top 10 pick

There is no chance of him going in the top 10 in my opinion way to much other talent ahead of him, no way does 3-4 pass rushers go in the top 10

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:11 AM

There is no chance of him going in the top 10 in my opinion way to much other talent ahead of him, no way does 3-4 pass rushers go in the top 10


no chance? national football post, kiper, mcshay all have him ranked inside the top 10. plus, he is more than capable of playing DE in a 43. and using your logic mingo, jarvis jones won't go in the top 10. although the way mingo is playing he might not....

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:16 AM

is anybody respectable giving barret jones a first round grade? and at this point werner is easily a top 10 pick

Jones is looking like a third round player and Gavin, no offense, can't seem to get his head around that.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 01:59 AM

Jones is looking like a third round player and Gavin, no offense, can't seem to get his head around that.


I went over to CBS Sports.com.... and their draft guy, Rob Rang (?) is giving Barrett Jones a 1st round grade for now.

But the three people I follow closest, Kiper & McShay at ESPN and Nolan Nowrocki at Pro Football Weekly do not. By the way, those three don't often agree with each other.... and they do in this case.... So, take it for what it's worth...

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 02:33 AM

I went over to CBS Sports.com.... and their draft guy, Rob Rang (?) is giving Barrett Jones a 1st round grade for now.

But the three people I follow closest, Kiper & McShay at ESPN and Nolan Nowrocki at Pro Football Weekly do not. By the way, those three don't often agree with each other.... and they do in this case.... So, take it for what it's worth...

Or not.

CBS is a joke when it comes to NFL scouting.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:49 AM

offensively were fine we need to get better on the defensive side. i really like vaccarro but jordan would be the pick. we need another pass rusher opposite mathis and i think jordan would thrive in this hybrid defense.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:54 AM

Warmack would be perfect if available
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:55 PM

Barret Jones is snd could very well be a late first rounder erarly second rounder. This guy is not only very smart up front but he id dominamt and hr hit over 98 percent of hiis blocks last year. That combo blocks and all. I have heard and read a number of times how Alabama loves to run behind him brcause he opens holes. And as far as pass blocking hes play one on one agsinst LSU pass rushers with no help and has done outstanding. Thizs guy is right there with Warmack plus he can play anywhere and play well. This guy is alot better than some of you think.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 09:05 PM

if people are wanting a guard, after warmack the #2 is johnathon cooper of UNC and many think he isn't far behind.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:00 PM

Barret Jones is snd could very well be a late first rounder erarly second rounder. This guy is not only very smart up front but he id dominamt and hr hit over 98 percent of hiis blocks last year. That combo blocks and all. I have heard and read a number of times how Alabama loves to run behind him brcause he opens holes. And as far as pass blocking hes play one on one agsinst LSU pass rushers with no help and has done outstanding. Thizs guy is right there with Warmack plus he can play anywhere and play well. This guy is alot better than some of you think.

We aren't saying that he shouldn't be a first rounder, we're saying that no one is projecting him as one.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:01 PM

if people are wanting a guard, after warmack the #2 is johnathon cooper of UNC and many think he isn't far behind.

I think that Cooper is on DeCastro's level, which is still really good. Warmack is just above them IMO.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:04 PM

no chance? national football post, kiper, mcshay all have him ranked inside the top 10. plus, he is more than capable of playing DE in a 43. and using your logic mingo, jarvis jones won't go in the top 10. although the way mingo is playing he might not....

Jones will and probably another pass rusher but 3-4 in the top ten considering all the other talent that will be available and team needs then 3-4 pass rushers is just to be many to go in the top 10

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:05 PM

My only concern about Cooper is his size and maost sites project him being better suited for a Zone Blocking Scheme

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:31 PM

I personally would want him or Jordan.



I tried telling you months ago that there was no chance of Jordan falling to the 6th rd., glad you came around.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:32 PM

I tried telling you months ago that there was no chance of Jordan falling to the 6th rd., glad you came around.

Lol, It was the 5th round and that's where some places projected him. You were right lol.
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

Lol, It was the 5th round and that's where some places projected him. You were right lol.


Being from Oregon and a huge fan of the Ducks, I had watched more film on him than most scouts so I had an unfair advantage.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 12:34 AM

offensively were fine we need to get better on the defensive side. i really like vaccarro but jordan would be the pick. we need another pass rusher opposite mathis and i think jordan would thrive in this hybrid defense.


Apparently you have not seen our offensive line attempt to block.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:41 PM

Let's assume that we make the playoffs and are picking from 21 to 32. Who do we select?

1. Chance Warmack
2. Kenny Vaccaro
3. Dion Jordan
4. Justin Hunter
5. Shawn Williams
6. Jesse Williams
7. Jonathan Banks


I'd be okay we any of these guys, but I think I'd rank them like this.
1.Warmack
2.Hunter
3.Jordan

The other guys just don't feel like a sure thing 1st round pick. However I do like Williams. People are too high on Elam IMO, he's a hard hitter and a decent tackler and cover man, but that is his problem... he's decent. I like Williams, Vacarro, and Rambo as better safeties.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:12 PM

Seeing that Woods could slip into the 20s I really would not be too supprised if we took him in the first. I mean our mangement is gonna take the player that more talented over a player who may just fill a need. Griegson has stated that. I thinks Woods overall if he were to slide that far could be the way we go. He is a very talented Widout with alot of potential and could have a big impact. I just think wed pick him if hes available over maybe a Warmack, Jones, Richardson or even a Saftey. Personally its not the direction I would want us to go but If you think about what our managments philosophy is this would not be a supprise. Something to watch for. Plus with how we are on pace to win7 to9 games this year and probably even more next year we may not get that chance to get a guy with real number 1 potential for a while.
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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:25 PM

Seeing that Woods could slip into the 20s I really would not be too supprised if we took him in the first. I mean our mangement is gonna take the player that more talented over a player who may just fill a need. Griegson has stated that. I thinks Woods overall if he were to slide that far could be the way we go. He is a very talented Widout with alot of potential and could have a big impact. I just think wed pick him if hes available over maybe a Warmack, Jones, Richardson or even a Saftey. Personally its not the direction I would want us to go but If you think about what our managments philosophy is this would not be a supprise. Something to watch for. Plus with how we are on pace to win7 to9 games this year and probably even more next year we may not get that chance to get a guy with real number 1 potential for a while.


you don't need a high first to get a number one receiver. would much rather the other receiver on usc

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:34 PM

you don't need a high first to get a number one receiver. would much rather the other receiver on usc


Maquese (sp?) Lee doesn't come out until the 2014 draft at the earliest. This is only his 2nd year.

I suspect he will come out after next season though.... too good not to....

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:43 PM

I'd love if we got either of the first two. Vacarro could help solidify our Safeties into something really special. But a line consisting of Castonzo-Warmack-Shipley/Satele-Ijalana/Fa-Justice could be a very serviceable offensive line.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 12:07 AM

Xavier Rhodes

He is a clone of Nnamdi Asomugha and would be a nasty, press corner. He would fit exactly what we want to do with man coverage, and his size would allow him to cover the bigger WRs in the league.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 02:39 PM

Maquese (sp?) Lee doesn't come out until the 2014 draft at the earliest. This is only his 2nd year.

I suspect he will come out after next season though.... too good not to....


i know he's a sophmore,,,i was just point out he is the better prospect. he and robert woods actually played on the same high school team....a tad unfair

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:10 PM

I know it doezt have to be a high first or really even a first to get a number one guy, but my main point in this is that we could very well take Woods if he fell there. Especailly if were remotly considering taking one and he were to slide there I think they would pick him. And Lee is very good too but were not gonna be in position to take him, especially if he contines this next year. He will be top ten. And the only thing he has over woods is speed. Woods has great hands, runds good routes, cand create big plays after the catch and still has solid speed. I dont really want this myself but Im thinking it could become a real possiblilty seeing how Woods seems to be fallimg down boards. Our Oganization could view it as a big steal.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:10 AM

I know it doezt have to be a high first or really even a first to get a number one guy, but my main point in this is that we could very well take Woods if he fell there.


I have the same feeling. I know its not popular around here but while Hilton is talented, im not sure we have a true #1 caliber WR to replace Reggie with on the roster.

Id rather have Warmack but if the situation arises to get Woods i think it would be tempting for the Colts.






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