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#1 SilentHill

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:56 PM

I'm convinced. It is time to cut Adam. We've had a good run but his time is done.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:58 PM

I'm convinced. It is time to cut Adam. We've had a good run but his time is done.


Shades of San Diego come to mind.

He's made some great game winners for us. Heck, he just did it last week. Still, he's way, way, WAAAAAAAAY too inconsistent from inside the 45.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 02:58 PM

He won us a game with a 50+ yard field goal last week...

If every player who people on this forum demanded be cut after a bad play was actually cut, we'd barely be able to field basketball team, much less a football team.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:01 PM

Just because he missed a FG, doesn't mean we will cut him. People always have off days.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:06 PM

He is off 2 of 3 games? Time to say bye bye

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#6 jvan1973

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:08 PM

we don't have anyone better cutting him would be a terrible move

#7 Moose Of Woe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:11 PM

He may have a shot at redemption this game.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:13 PM

It's one thing to miss the occasional fg. But vinni misses often inside 45 yards even early in games and it comes back to bite us. Cut him. I am never confident when he comes in to kick. The guy just doesn't have it anymore. Move on. It's been like 4 years since he has been good. How are u blind to this?

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:13 PM

If he kicks another game winning FG, lets put up a statue of him in front of the stadium!

#10 Moose Of Woe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:15 PM

Here we go.... 37 yards.

#11 Warhawk

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:16 PM

Well, this thread had a short shelf life.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:16 PM

that was close....he made that by about 2 inches.

If he had missed that, the Colts might have had a help wanted sign out on 56th street tomorrow.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:16 PM

Aaaaand there's redemption. Barely. But I'll take barely.

The point he's inconsistent still has ground, though. Although I can't imagine us getting anyone better at the moment.

...Unless we put in our MVP Patty Mac for field goals.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:17 PM

Barely is all that matters.

#15 Moose Of Woe

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:19 PM

Aaaaaand all for not.

#16 SilentHill

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:22 PM

I still say cut him

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:32 PM

I still say cut him


Why? He won the game last week and would have won us the game today. If it was not for the Colts giving it away to the Jags at the end. He is still money when it comes down to the line.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:35 PM

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#19 colts1993

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:16 PM

I'm not really considering on cutting adam but he sure has lost a step..

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:16 PM

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#21 1959Colts

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:20 PM

For years now I have had no confidence when he steps up to kick.
No matter the distance.

#22 SilentHill

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:36 PM

Why? He won the game last week and would have won us the game today. If it was not for the Colts giving it away to the Jags at the end. He is still money when it comes down to the line.


No, he is not. He has been a model of inconsistency for the last few years. He makes way too much money to be this bad.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:42 PM

Why? He won the game last week and would have won us the game today. If it was not for the Colts giving it away to the Jags at the end. He is still money when it comes down to the line.


Yea, he would have won the game for us today...Had he made that kick earlier.....

I also still contend him missing the one in Chi to end the half was the game changer.....

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:44 PM

He always misses one.
And he cant even kick off.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:03 PM

and pick up who?

Don't say Patty Mac, because the guy isn't ready to start taking over kicking duties.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:04 PM

On a side note. If he makes it we still lose by two:) so whats better losing by two or five. Nutty ppl!

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:07 PM

Can we stop with the silly over reactions?

He hit a game winner last week and a 50+ yarder vs. the Steelers in the pre-season there is no issue with his leg. Then he came back and hit a kick to give us the lead today and then the defense blew it even with his miss. Yes he's missed two kicks but if you've followed most of Adam's career that's what he does he misses kicks here or there and then comes threw in the clutch. The fact he misses kicks here or there is why he hasn't been to more pro-bowls in his career.

Adam is fine. I understand people are mad at that we lost today but let's just stop the silly over reactions because we are mad. I mean yes Adam missed a kick but you know what Luck made a mistake today too he threw a silly INT and Reggie dropped a pass, should they be cut too because they made a mistake?
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:08 PM

I wanted to cut Vinateri when we decided to rebuild this thing. Doesn't make any sense to keep an aging kicker and pay him $2M + when we could have found a servicable kicker of the future and have him struggle and grow with the rest of the team.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:09 PM

He always misses one.
And he cant even kick off.

He can kick off McAfee is just better at it. Before we got Pat Adam was our kickoff man and even with the old kick off rules would still get the ball the to the endzone line and get a touch back here or there. This isn't a situation like with Vandy where he honestly couldn't do kick offs because he didn't have the leg for it.
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#30 GoColts8818

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:09 PM

I wanted to cut Vinateri when we decided to rebuild this thing. Doesn't make any sense to keep an aging kicker and pay him $2M + when we could have found a servicable kicker of the future and have him struggle and grow with the rest of the team.

Where were you last week when he hit the 50+ yard game winner? Funny no one was calling for him to be cut then...
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:10 PM

and pick up who?

Don't say Patty Mac, because the guy isn't ready to start taking over kicking duties.

You called it with this thread
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:12 PM

Actually there are more quality free agent kickers out there right now then any year I can remember. Def a buyers market, might be time with the bye week to bring a few of the better ones in for a look see. Neil Rackers, Josh Brown, Ryan Longwell, Graham Gano, Nick Novack, Olindo Mare. I'd opt for Mare last season he was 8 of 9 from 40-50 yards, doesnt have a booming leg anymore but we need a kicker who can be a lock at that distance I believe.

#33 Susie Q

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:12 PM

You called it with this thread


Well we knew this thread would be coming. :funny:

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:15 PM

Actually there are more quality free agent kickers out there right now then any year I can remember. Def a buyers market, might be time with the bye week to bring a few of the better ones in for a look see. Neil Rackers, Josh Brown, Ryan Longwell, Graham Gano, Nick Novack, Olindo Mare. I'd opt for Mare last season he was 8 of 9 from 40-50 yards, doesnt have a booming leg anymore but we need a kicker who can be a lock at that distance I believe.


I would say we have more worries right now ( O-line ) than replacing the kicker. :slaphead:

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:17 PM

Where were you last week when he hit the 50+ yard game winner? Funny no one was calling for him to be cut then...


So you're saying he is the one and only kicker in football who could have made that kick?
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#36 Let there be Luck

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:18 PM

I agree with Andy it would be silly to cut him this season. Let him play this season and see what we will have next year. Rather it be FA or going into the late round draft and pick out a rookie kicker. He might retire after this season who knows? Just let him play this season then decide. But I still say if the game is on the line I rather have him to kick the FG.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:21 PM

Why? He won the game last week and would have won us the game today. If it was not for the Colts giving it away to the Jags at the end. He is still money when it comes down to the line.


You missed it. He was playing CB and cost us the game.

#38 GoColts8818

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:24 PM

So you're saying he is the one and only kicker in football who could have made that kick?

I didn't say that or all or anything close to it. I am asking where you were last week when he hit the game winner? If you want him cut for the reasons you said what he did last week shouldn't have changed your opinion at all yet no one was calling for him to be cut last week. People are mad we lost today and saying silly things like cut Adam more so because they are mad we lost and he happened to miss a kick and completely ignoring he hit a kick later in the game that gave the Colts the lead and it was the defense who lost it.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:27 PM

I didn't say that or all or anything close to it. I am asking where you were last week when he hit the game winner? If you want him cut for the reasons he said what he did last week shouldn't have changed your opinion at all yet no one was calling for him to be cut last week. People are mad we lost today and saying silly things like cut Adam more so because they are mad we lost and he happened to miss a kick and completely ignoring he hit a kick later in the game that gave the Colts the lead and it was the defense who lost it.


If you go back and read my post, you will see that I wanted Vinateri gone after last season. No sense of keeping him at his salary when you're in rebuilding mode. He is not our future. I also wanted Freeney gone too.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:27 PM

A replacement for Collie is a higher priority.
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