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  1. I had some inside info back then. For instance , I knew the Cotts preferred Edge over Ricky Williams. They were very worried about the "entourage" that followed RW around. As to Manning vs Leaf the year before ... from the get go , Mora and Irsay "heavily " favored Manning. Polian on the other hand was around 50-50 in the beginning of the process. Leaf appeared to fit the mold of QB's that Poian coveted .
  2. Ha... you're talking to me about being logical . LOL
  3. What I said was correct I think ? The highest he ever drafted a RB I think was the Syracuse guy in the 4th ? You have a point but not quite that simple. He used a future first round pick on Richardson but if you want to be technical you could argue that next years first is more often than not valued at a "present time 2nd." Case in hand is if you want a teams pick in "this years" 2nd round , you have to give up your next year's first. Like when the Colts drafted Ugoh ? Just 1 of numerous examples. Unless you are Cleveland I guess. We also received a first rounder at what APPEARED to be a bargain price. So there was monetary compensation involved there also. Cleveland was charged with his signing bonus while the Colts only had to pay his base salaries. So Grigson thought he was getting a 5 mill $ player for around 2.5 per year. As it turned out he wasn't worth vet minimum but who would have really figured that. I was just pointing out to Bott that McShay isn't the one that predicted the Colts would finish with the 7th worst record in the NFL. If you read the whole back and forth between Bott and I , I think you will see that I was only trying to point out that there are good GM's and bad GM's and you certainly don't judge them on where they draft RB's.
  4. There are good GM's and not so good GM's . I was speaking generally .. like you were. If you follow your logic ,it would mean that any GM that drafts a RB in the first round is stupid. I was challenging that . I'm sure I'm wasting my time as you probably won't be able to understand that. BTW... wouldn't you think Grigson was good as he never drafted a RB in the first 3 rounds ?
  5. oh.....and where do you think E. Elliott would go if 2016 was re-drafted ? Two went in the top 8 this year. Are we to believe that NFL GM's that are paid millions are "dumb."? Everything being equal , I would agree with you . It's easier to get a starting RB outside of round 1 than say a left tackle. But that doesn't (IMO) qualify what you have above to be true.
  6. Don't be so hard on the guy.... The draft order below was generated by Football Outsiders, using its early projected records for the 2017 season.
  7. It was a crazy first 14 picks. If Hooker goes instead of one of the offensive players , do the Colts get a bargain at 15 ? If they can't trade back , I can't see it happening. J Allen has shoulder issues and no-one traded up to take OJ Howard. So in essence , 2 (Allen +Foster) of the guys that "dropped" as a result of the early "over drafting" had red flags and the other was a TE. So you might say the Colts and Bucs were really the only 2 teams that no doubt benefited ? I mean look at the other players between 16 and 22. IMO all are drafted right about where they figured to go ?
  8. Somehow , I forgot about Hooker being a top 10 pick and the selection took me by surprise. Yeah on Foster , he might end up to be great but no doubt a risk. Besides shoulder , he also had the weird character stuff going on at the combine. Plus the positive test (diluted) and I also read that he had concussion issues early at Alabama . Something about having a couple and taking much longer than expected to recover . I too was thinking Foster when the QB's and WR's went in the top 12 . Then like I said , I forgot about Hooker , figured Philly takes Barnettt and really couldn't think of another player I wanted at 15 other than Harris ... and he was no bargain there.
  9. Naturally it will change here and there when the betting comes in but there are some that really surprise me. Tenn. at 9.5 for one seems high ? I was hoping the Colts would be 8 .. 8.5 at highest . http://www.covers.com/Editorial/Article/32de140c-2e10-11e7-bcfd-005056830dca/NFL-regular-season-win-totals-released-by-South-Point-in-Las-Vegas
  10. True. I guess kind of crazy when you draft a guy as a "developmental " prospect and he's thrown into the starting lineup. I guess when you have a bad roster and injuries , this kind of thing happens.
  11. I was mostly just trying to bring some humor to the thread. I have no idea of Green has a future in the NFL . What I do know is he did not get better as the year progressed . So I'm kind of just figuring any contribution from Green is a bonus.
  12. I guess they would consider it because they really like Geathers at SS ? So Green is going to be a back up safety .Thus he would see the field more as a CB ? As to the "can't cover" issue , he's not exactly a great run defender either. So if he can't tackle and can't cover , it really doesn't matter where you play him.

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