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  1. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    Yeah, I'd expect the NFLPA to have something to say about it. They always do. But, there seemed to be pretty good unity on this issue. I would have thought there would have been some agreement. Maybe there was?
  2. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    I'm so sorry. I'm glad that man took the time to come over to her. It's not overblown. After I submitted that post, I thought of several more examples that I've seen recently. It is un American
  3. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    It's not a bunch of bunk and it's not a few police forces It's also not just the police, it's every day people In the past month, I've seen videos of people being accosted for speaking spanish, bar be queing in an area where it's always been allowed, sleeping in a dorm common area, walking a baby, inspecting a house (ie doing your job), checking out of an air b n b and on and on and on. These are every day people living their lives A good first step toward building consensus would be to acknowledge that this is not isolated and not just a few people and victims are just that, victimized by people who are racist. I'm not saying that all people are racist or that all police are bad. That's just not true But it's far more pervasive that you are willing to see
  4. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    Not that I'm aware of. There are extremists on all issues but, I would guess the vast majority of us just want to get rid of bad cops I know that was the intent
  5. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    For me this all boils down to one group of people feeling fiercely that the national anthem must be played before a game and everyone must stand otherwise they feel disrespected vs another group of people who feel fiercely that racism occurs everywhere and on a daily basis and the country needs to do better. Some are proud no matter what and feel that others should show pride too. The others feel excluded, dismissed, oppressed and, are showing that by kneeling. There are strong feelings on both sides. The flag, the country, and the anthem belong to all of us. We don't get to tell each other that we don't matter. We need to work this out. That, for me, is America. Coming together is more important than anything else, including the anthem. The NFL can try this but, as long as people are not united in addressing rampant social injustice, protest will continue.
  6. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    Why are we talking about a rapper you don't like?
  7. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    It does because it gets attention
  8. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    That's not what's wrong with the country Words evolve and have power. Used to be that the 'diagnosis' for a developmental disability had a scale that included *, imbecile etc. It was right to stop using them just as it's offensive to call someone a #. I agree that homophobic speech is wrong although I don't listen to that rapper so, I don't know what you are talking about. I think focusing on who is a hypocrite doesn't get us closer to solving the problem anyway. I'm fine with the NFL's policy. But, the problem is not going away
  9. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    Sorry, I should have clarified. I was referring to the recent increase in hate crimes. I think we're not past the calling attention to it phase at all. We need to continue to shine a light on this I'd be all for a problem solving phase though
  10. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    Hypocrisy abounds these days and no one seems to care. Whataboutism abounds as well. you can talk yourself out of caring about most anything. Right is right and wrong is wrong. I support positive change. I believe in Martin Luther Kings vision. I think Margaret Meade was 100% spot on when she said btw, my husband is not a bad apple. He's just a bit ocd
  11. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    agree
  12. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    I could never be mad a you I actually think that things have gotten worse. I strongly disagree that the first step to addressing the divisiveness is for people to stop calling attention to it.
  13. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    I'm not sure it was immediately on the news. It wasn't on the stadium screens. But at the game, I got a twitter notification. That's how I knew. Depends on how plugged in your are I think
  14. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    But half isn't enough. I'm optimistic and persistent. For example, I'm horrified by the massive islands of plastic floating in the ocean so, I recycle everything I can and avoid contributing to the problem as best I can. For me, this involves counter acting my husbands disregard for the ease of recycling. Every day I retrieve the recyclables he pitches in the regular trash and put them in the recycle bin. Will it eliminate those massive piles of trash floating in our oceans? No, but it doesn't make them worse. I don't give up on people either
  15. Nadine

    NFL adopts new Anthem policy

    ahh, well I'm more in the glass half full camp