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  1. We don't know the whole story, and history. It is unusual for a team to jettison a physician in season (or Pre). I don't feel what happened (using only information I'm aware of) was all that egregious. However, every job in the NFL seems to have perform or you'll be replaced mentality, from players to the doctors. The yeah, but what have you done for me lately?
  2. With each passing day, the chance of Luck playing in game one drops. We all knew this was a possibility. a great timeline was sill cutting it close, and seems to be still is. I still hope he is active before the season begins and he doesn't end up on Reserve PUP. But I feel it will take 2-3 weeks of team practice drills with the team to be truly ready. He may be activated to the roster sometime in the next couple of weeks or so, but that alone doesn't mean he' ll be ready to play right away. My hope his 'reported' throwing (30 yd finesse passes) at this point is for strength and conditioning reps, and not still in the 'light tossing' stages of his recovery. There are no pre-season injury rules on reporting, so everyone will just have to be patient and see what transpires as far as his PUP status.
  3. I have had to clean up many posts, lets keep it on topic, and keep politics and baiting out of it please. Thanks.
  4. One thing nobody points out... what percentage of the NFL are 'good guys', and what % are the ones in trouble? All things considered, I think the majority of the players are upstanding citizens (not perfect though none of us are) and won't tolerate an extended lockout just to make life easier for the minority few that just can't stay away from troubles doorstep. They'll want change, but won't hold out forever to take away all the Commissioners power. I think the commissioner will get first say, then the appeal / arbitration process will be external to the league, likely a tribunal, with a league rep, NFLPA rep, and a non affiliated party {pure guess} to hear and rule on the appeal. The owners know that the Shield is above even their own star players. Players age and retire, the franchise goes on and on. The League as a whole and perceptions of the teams drive the long term business. It's Sports Entertainment.
  5. Yep, and the owners want something (large) in return. They won't give that up for nothing (whether its 18 game season, whatever...). It's a bargaining session. we fan folk should prepare for a long lockout in a few years. The players and their union had better start saving money to weather the lean times without football paychecks rolling in the coming dark times too. In the meantime, the Best Zeke can hope for is a reduction in games on appeal to Harold Henderson. Whatever is decided there (confirmation or reduction) will hold up in the courts. At least under this CBA.
  6. Just becasue you aren't convicted, doesn't mean your innocent. I wanted to avoided busting this out, but here it goes. this from a live broadcast conference call from Peter harvay, Esq. former Attorney General of the state of New Jersey. heard this in real time, so I knew I could find record of this at a later time if ever needed. It is now needed. Here is the record of the conference call (following) and my poignant takeaway- At least the evidence that had been made public to us said that Ms. Thompson might have texted her friends to quote on quote lie about where they were. Was your conclusion more based on the photographic evidence you guys saw or was it more of a he said/she said and you just sided with her more than him? Well it starts with he said/she said, which is why an investigation is conducted. {snip some items} Now, you raise a question and I don’t want to dodge it, you asked whether or not she had made a misstatement and a false statement. Yes, she did. Her false statement that was revealed was she accused Mr. Elliott of yanking her out of a car on July 21st, really it’s the morning of the 22nd, because I think it was after midnight. That did not happen. And she did ask one of her friends to tell the police that it did happen and the friend had the good sense not to do that. That is true. But as to other statements that she made, both to the Columbus DA as well as to NFL investigators, she was absolutely truthful about them. And by the way, the Columbus prosecutor knew about that false statement and still said to our investigators that he believed her and he believed that the injuries that she articulated to the Columbus DA’s office were caused by Mr. Elliott. He just didn’t believe he had sufficient evidence to prove the case based upon the criminal standard which as you know is beyond a reasonable doubt and that’s the highest standard known to American law. https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/CONFERENCE-CALL-RE---EZEKIEL-ELLIOTT-DISCIPLINARY-DECISION-.aspx From where i sit, There isn't anyone that knows all of the evidence in the case that feels he didn't cause those injuries, except him and his (possibly)the NFLPA and his representative team. Zeke cannot win. The NFL is sending a new message, and it's a new era for the NFL; and Players better get on board- http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2726948-ezekiel-elliott-ruling-signals-new-era-for-nfl-in-confronting-domestic-violence
  7. {snip a lot of items regarding behavior on both sides} At the end of the day, neither has enough to get charged and found guilty 'beyond reasonable doubt'. both have clouded their behavior such that neither is completely believable. thus, it has to be settled by the NFL in their own version of the Peoples Court. Hear both sides, try to see who has more supporting evidence than the other, and who is more believable (however slight the scale tip). Then rule that way. The advisory panel of felt unanimous in favor of the victim. Goodel had final authority, and agreed with the panel. Done deal. All the other stuff is back and forth talk, and the NFL won't release the full investigation report, especially since an appeal and possible Federal Court appearances
  8. I don't have to do anything. I'm not an NFL investigator. But the NFL did investigate, and took great care (and time in doing so. The NFL saw all the evidence on both sides and issued this about Ezekiel committing the DV offense on 3 separate occasions-- The letter (to Elliott), obtained by the Daily News through a source, says on July 17, 2016, evidence shows Elliott “used physical force that caused injuries to Ms. Thompson’s arms, neck and shoulders.” On July 19, 2016, Elliott used physical force “that caused injuries to Ms. Thompson’s face, arms, wrist and hands.” And on July 21, 2016, Elliott used physical force “that caused injuries to Ms. Thompson’s face, neck, arms, knee and hips.” “League investigators interviewed more than a dozen witnesses, including Ms. Thompson, and examined all available evidence, including photographic and digital evidence, thousands of text messages and other records of electronic communications,” the NFL’s missive explains. “In addition, two medical experts were consulted regarding identification, causation and aging of certain injuries to Ms. Thompson.” The evidence was so convincing that all four of commissioner Roger Goodell’s advisors consulted in the case “individually were of the view that there is substantial and persuasive evidence supporting a finding that you engaged in physical violence against Ms. Thompson on multiple occasions during the week of July 16, 2016.” The NFL's personal conduct policy for violations states- While criminal activity is clearly outside the scope of permissible conduct, and persons who engage in criminal activity will be subject to discipline, the standard of conduct for persons employed in the NFL is considerably higher. It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard and expected to conduct yourself in a way that is responsible, promotes the values upon which the League is based, and is lawful. Persons who fail to live up to this standard of conduct are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime. So the NFL believed the victim more than the defendant. That is their ruling at the end of the day, the courts and any lack of formal charges has nothing to do with it, period. And while Elliotts team may take it to the courts (like Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson, etc,) the Tom Brady case pretty much sealed Goodells's power to be Judge, jury, and executioner, as long as he is unbiased and actions are without fraud. This is checkmate: http://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2017/08/14/if-elliott-suspension-goes-to-court-they-wont-be-reviewing-case-about-domestic-violence/
  9. I think they are counting on (hoping for ) Hooker and Geathers as FS and SS, with Green doing some CB, and most likely covering TE's in a 'Big Nickel' and Dime sub package. At least, that's how i see it moving forward...
  10. I don't care about score. I wasn't able to watch or listen to most of this last game for other reasons. What I care about is individual performances. How did each guy do, on his assignments against his opponent. Who won more often then not, who lost more often than not. Who has shown improvement in football IQ and technique, who still looks a little lost. Who shows NFL talent, who looks destined for practice squad or bypassed for NFL duty. The next game is the one I'm most interested in, and might just splurge on game pass to see it live here in FL. comes in handy to review games after they been played in season. (I cut the cord, so no DirecTV or RedZone)
  11. I've already lost the faceguard and football for Peyton! :-(
  12. Well, then there is this- "Among the most compelling evidence, Harvey said, was smartphone metadata that showed photographs Thompson took of her bodily injuries were snapped on the same days she had spent with Elliott. Days! not day... {smartphone data and all TXT and records from both parties phones were collected and turned over to the NFL} What the NFL investigators learned was that on at least four nights between July 16 and July 21, Mr. Elliott and Ms. Thompson stayed together in the same apartment in the same bedroom. And so these injuries did not just, at least in my judgment, magically appear on her body,” Harvey said. “So while alternative theories are interesting, in my judgment they have to be supported by evidence and that was lacking in this particular situation.” They also "reviewed the submissions offered by Mr. Elliott’s representatives. One thing that was significant to us was that many of these people offered affidavits. They declined to be interviewed by the NFL’s investigators, which raised suspicions in our minds about the veracity of these witnesses. In at least one of the affidavits that I reviewed, the information was different in the affidavit than the witness gave to the NFL’s investigators when they talked to this particular witness. We also examined the arguments made by Mr. Elliott’s representatives, and the arguments seemed to be theoretical. They did not seem to be supported by any witness, any document, any other substantive evidence. " You can't pick and choose some evidence and call it the way you want, as is being done here. Only the panel reviewed all the evidence, and then came to the conclusion submitted to the Commissioner. These affidavit people need to be interviewed by league officials before the appeal, or their affidavit testimonies are seriously diminished in credibility.
  13. Seems funny to me, many arguing about playing newer UDFA QB's instead of an older and game tested UDFA. To me, It's like debating who has the worst winter weather. Fargo ND, Minneapolis, MN, or Buffalo NY.. One has to be better than the other 2, but none seem enticing....
  14. Agreed, but i don't particularly like Tolzien either... Here is a list of QB's taken the last 5 years in round 4 and higher i probably would rather have right now- 2017- 4 Joshua Dobbs 5 Nathan Peterman 6 Brad Kaaya 2016- 4 Connor Cook 4 Dak Prescott !! 4 Cardale Jones (Chargers traded a 7th for this guy for 2017) * 5 Kevin Hogan 6 Nate Sudfeld 6 Jake Rudock 6 Brandon Allen 2015- 4 Bryce Petty 5 Brett Hundley 7 Trevor Siemian ! 2014- 4 Logan Thomas 4 Tom Savage 5 AJ McCarron 6 Zach Mettenberger 2013- 4 Matt Barkley 4 Ryan Nassib 4 Tyler Wilson 4 Landry Jones -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2012- ** 1 Luck ** 3 Russell Wilson !!! 4 Nick Foles ! 4 Kirk Cousins !! 7, Chandler Harnish *** Colts draft I'd would have liked any of these 2013 and newer4th rounders and beyond, except possibly Jones. But we have who we have and have to work with it.
  15. I'll take him, but I'll bet your price is too high... considering Luck will come back at some point, well before (unfortunately) Bridgewater in all likelihood..

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