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[Greenoughrunner]

I really like this guy. But i feel like he will be a BIG bust. You look at him and he dose have talent. But hes a late blumer and he still is bluming but i dont feel the NFL is a place for him. Kinda like Jamarcus Russell. Running QB who can throw, but idt he will be to good.

[Blackhawk4]

Thank you Nostradamus. Can you please tell me who will win the NBA finals this year and if so in how many games as well? You're getting ahead of yourself assuming RGIII will be a bust. Griffin hasn't even taken a snap in the NFL yet.

[Greenoughrunner]

Thank you Nostradamus. Can you please tell me who will win the NBA finals this year and if so in how many games as well? You're getting ahead of yourself assuming RGIII will be a bust. Griffin hasn't even taken a snap in the NFL yet.

lol i seem to do that alot. o btw the lakers

[Blackhawk4]

lol i seem to do that alot. o btw the lakers

Being a Lakers fan I would love to see that, but this year it seems like 7-8 teams have a legit shot at winning it this year.

[Andy]

Well, I can come out and say Andrew Luck will be a bust, or Matt Kalil, or anybody, but without any major points to back that up, you just look silly. You can't just say he's like Jamarcus Russell (which he's not), b/c that's not enough.

Please give me 5 reasons why you think he'll be a bust.

[coltsrule91]

Thank you Nostradamus. Can you please tell me who will win the NBA finals this year and if so in how many games as well? You're getting ahead of yourself assuming RGIII will be a bust. Griffin hasn't even taken a snap in the NFL yet.

THE SUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i wish.

[ManningToCollie]

Wait a season or two before you speculate if he is a bust.

[The Fish]

Since were getting Luck and the odds of both being starters in 5 years is small,I'd prefer RG3 be the bust.

[21isSuperman]

I really like this guy. But i feel like he will be a BIG bust. You look at him and he dose have talent. But hes a late blumer and he still is bluming but i dont feel the NFL is a place for him. Kinda like Jamarcus Russell. Running QB who can throw, but idt he will be to good.

Huge difference between Russell and Griffin: Russell didn't care. He wanted to get paid and blame others for all of his shortcomings. Griffin seems like a hard-working, smart leader who I think will be a successful NFL QB

[21isSuperman]

Well, I can come out and say Andrew Luck will be a bust, or Matt Kalil, or anybody, but without any major points to back that up, you just look silly. You can't just say he's like Jamarcus Russell (which he's not), b/c that's not enough.

Please give me 5 reasons why you think he'll be a bust.

Well said, Andy. There's nothing wrong with coming out and saying any player will be a bust. Just provide good reasons for your claim

[RGIII]

I may have just fractured my skull with my own palm... somebody call 911.

[Vance]

Can't argue with this. Dose have talent, but a late blumer. It's air tight.

[AustinCollie17]

Guys you're all crazy. OKC will win it all. I'm a Knicks fan before all that Linsanity started. OKC has my favorite player in Durant.

RG3 will be RG3

[Betty27_1]

I think it's a little unfair to be calling this kid a bust before he even plays a snap in the NFL. Is he going to be an elite QB? Who knows. No one knows. You can't even honestly say Luck is going to be one before he even plays an NFL game.

I say we just let these young men play first, then pass judgment on the kind players they are.

Wasn't Cam Newton labeled a bust before he was drafted?

[chad72]

Guys you're all crazy. OKC will win it all. I'm a Knicks fan before all that Linsanity started. OKC has my favorite player in Durant.

RG3 will be RG3

San Antonio, the boring machine

[AustinCollie17]

Aw the Spurs. Smh

[John Dee]

Nobody knows how hard these guys will work when they get paid. Even Luck.... But I think AL is going to be fine. He has been working with T Moore, he has worked out for any team wanting him to. Dude called his own plays half the season last year. And he is from a affluent family, he already has money. Luck is as safe a bet at QB IMO since Peyton.

RG3 ???? I bugs me a bit he refused to workout for Indy. And his comments about being "fine" with backing up Manning bother me a bit. And this guy played with some outstanding talent around him. Just glad I don't have to worry about RG3.

[21isSuperman]

Steve Nash needs to win an NBA championship.

[JCPatriot]

I still think it would be interesting if a rival league like the UFL or the USFL or even the CFL could work out the financing to outpay the rookie cap limits and steal one or even both of these guys away from the NFL. Talk about a way to generate some publicity and interest in your league. Does a team get any kind of compensation if their draft pick decides not to play in the NFL?

[21isSuperman]

I still think it would be interesting if a rival league like the UFL or the USFL or even the CFL could work out the financing to outpay the rookie cap limits and steal one or even both of these guys away from the NFL. Talk about a way to generate some publicity and interest in your league. Does a team get any kind of compensation if their draft pick decides not to play in the NFL?

The CFL has a lot of interest here in Canada. It's just not as big worldwide and its operations are much much smaller. There are only 8 teams and the salary cap is around $4.5 mil

[JCPatriot]

$4.5 mil total per team? That's probably not enough to make any kind of play, even with the rookie cap. What is the NFL cap for a high first-round draft pick?

I know the CFL is pretty popular in Canada. I listened to some sports radio while I was in Ottawa and Montreal on business, and they got a decent amount of coverage. I didn't realize that you were from Canada.

[CCH]

Well Baylor didn't really do a tremendous job in preparing RGIII for the pros, but he has the tools to be successful.

The Heat will be winning the NBA Finals, and then they'll win one with Steve Nash next year.

[John Dee]

Well Baylor didn't really do a tremendous job in preparing RGIII for the pros, but he has the tools to be successful.

The Heat will be winning the NBA Finals, and then they'll win one with Steve Nash next year.

The Heat are soft... They won't beat Indiana in the second round.

[CCH]

The Heat are soft... They won't beat Indiana in the second round.

I think we've blown them out 3 times and are 4-0 this season against them so they're not exactly the best of matchups lol. And only Chris Bosh is playing extremely soft right now, but he was last year too and then stepped up big time in the playoffs so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt right now.

[John Dee]

I think we've blown them out 3 times and are 4-0 this season against them so they're not exactly the best of matchups lol. And only Chris Bosh is playing extremely soft right now, but he was last year too and then stepped up big time in the playoffs so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt right now.

Prince James is soft. And a NO SHOW when it matters.

Indiana lost by 2, and spanked Miami the last 2 played. The Pacers are on the come.

[CCH]

Prince James is soft. And a NO SHOW when it matters.

Indiana lost by 2, and spanked Miami the last 2 played. The Pacers are on the come.

I think they beat us the last time we played them...can't remember a time other than that. And LeBron has been great recently and in the playoffs up until about game 3 of the Finals last year. The Pacers being anywhere near the Heat's level is laughable. Danny Granger and Roy freakin' Hibbert aren't beating LeBron, Wade and Bosh in the playoffs, sorry. They are a good team though I'll give them that.

[21isSuperman]

$4.5 mil total per team? That's probably not enough to make any kind of play, even with the rookie cap. What is the NFL cap for a high first-round draft pick?

I know the CFL is pretty popular in Canada. I listened to some sports radio while I was in Ottawa and Montreal on business, and they got a decent amount of coverage. I didn't realize that you were from Canada.

Yep, living in Canada. A few years ago, the Edmonton Eskimos signed then-QB Ricky Ray to a contract that was worth $500 000 and he was the highest paid player in league history. Not sure if that's changed now. Caps are as follows:

2010: $4,250,000
2011: $4,300,000
2012: $4,350,000
2013: $4,400,000

And minimum team salary are:

2010: $3,900,000
2011: $3,900,000
2012: $4,000,000
2013: $4,000,000

With minimum player contract being:

2010: $42,000
2011: $43,000
2012: $44,000
2013: $45,000

[The Peytonator]

I think RG3 will be good, but I see it taking a long time for him and Washington to become a relavent team. With the way Snyder runs that show, he would do best to get out of his own way, get a good GM in there, and let everything fall into place.

I have much more confidence in RG3 than I did in Cam Newton, heck I'm still not sold on Newton.

[ColtsDude27]

I think RG3 will be very good in the NFL. To me he just has all the tools to be a great QB.

[bahhummbug]

Well, I can come out and say Andrew Luck will be a bust, or Matt Kalil, or anybody, but without any major points to back that up, you just look silly. You can't just say he's like Jamarcus Russell (which he's not), b/c that's not enough.

Please give me 5 reasons why you think he'll be a bust.

1.He better learn to slide hes going to be hit hard and often (Big Injury Risk)
2.Overconfident (Think he will not put his whole heart into the game)
3.As above too much confidence leads to less studying of film because ( Why study when you already know everything)
4.Even though its great to be cocky he will fold under NFL pressure when it comes to calling his own plays (Which he has never done no experience calling his own plays or reading DEF)
5.Whi
ch makes for happy feet which leads to turnovers or worse( Griffin out for season with torn ACL or Back)
6.The best i ever see him as is Michael Vick injury prone running smaller QBs and end up on bench.

[gacker65]

Depends on the coaching staff and gm

[bahhummbug]

1.He better learn to slide hes going to be hit hard and often (Big Injury Risk)
2.Overconfident (Think he will not put his whole heart into the game)
3.As above too much confidence leads to less studying of film because ( Why study when you already know everything)
4.Even though its great to be cocky he will fold under NFL pressure when it comes to calling his own plays (Which he has never done no experience calling his own plays or reading DEF)
5.Whi
ch makes for happy feet which leads to turnovers or worse( Griffin out for season with torn ACL or Back)
6.The best i ever see him as is Michael Vick injury prone running smaller QBs and end up on bench.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/752574-nfl-power-rankings-ranking-all-32-offensive-lines-in-the-nfl-for-2011/page/4Oh and Washington cannot protect the QB?

[fvantagio]

Wait till he plays before we start all this bust talk.

And...the Heat are going all the way this year.

[fvantagio]

1.He better learn to slide hes going to be hit hard and often (Big Injury Risk)
2.Overconfident (Think he will not put his whole heart into the game)
3.As above too much confidence leads to less studying of film because ( Why study when you already know everything)
4.Even though its great to be cocky he will fold under NFL pressure when it comes to calling his own plays (Which he has never done no experience calling his own plays or reading DEF)
5.Whi
ch makes for happy feet which leads to turnovers or worse( Griffin out for season with torn ACL or Back)
6.The best i ever see him as is Michael Vick injury prone running smaller QBs and end up on bench.

1. He does slide, and besides thats no reason to label him a bust.
2-4. (since there basically the same thing written differently). Was Peyton overconfident when he said id kick your butt for the next 15 years? Correct me if im wrong but i believe Peyton did study some film. I mean just a little bit, considering you know...his enormous ego and all.
6. He is the size of Aaron Rodgers...So invalid.

So lets summarize what we just learned. RG3 will bust because he may possibly get happy feet occasionally, if under pressure. He is confident so therefore will not study film. (fact i guess?) Because he is a edit QB that can run we throw his size and weight out the window and use Michael Vicks measurements instead. (apparently). Therefore he is to small. Oh and because he doesnt slide all the time. (HUGE indicator if the player will bust or not)

Great glad we got that out of the way now lets do Luck.

1. His neck beard will be uncomfortable and give him a rash which will distract him from playing and he will suck.
2. He enjoys playing football so wont take it seriously and will suck.
3. Hes a edit QB, with athletic ability, just like David Carr.
4. David Carr couldnt handle getting hit all the time and struggled because of it. Therefore Luck will struggle as well.
5. Did David Carr get any injury's? If yes then Luck will get injured as well.

Edited by Coltssouth, 15 April 2012 - 03:31 PM.
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[doogansquest]

I really like this guy. But i feel like he will be a BIG bust. You look at him and he dose have talent. But hes a late blumer and he still is bluming but i dont feel the NFL is a place for him. Kinda like Jamarcus Russell. Running QB who can throw, but idt he will be to good.

Or like Cam Newton, Michael Vick, Steve Young, Warren Moon, Aaron Rodgers...

Those are all QB's who can run. RGIII has always been a pass-first guy. If you think otherwise, you simply haven't watched him.

I promise you, he will have a better start to his career than will Andrew Luck. That doesn't mean he will end up more successful, but he will be more ready for the big stage than Luck will be.

[funktacious2]

He certainly has all the tools to succeed, and for Washington's sake he has to. lol

[Coltssouth]

Lets keep on topic about the players abilities and not the color of their skin please.

[John Doe]

I don't know yet.

Certainly, Griffin has QB talent, and has shown that at the collegiate level.
Certainly, Griffin has athletic ability, and has shown that as well.
Certainly, Griffin has intelligence, and has shown that as well.

What is uncertain are his maturity and his ability to withstand the common pitfalls of being a QB at the professional level.
Can he overcome the temptations of:
1) wealth
2) ego (over-confidence and attitude)
3) laziness
4) substance abuse
which have been the downfall of several professional football players in the past.

[coltmb]

Had to vote wait and see, because why i don't think he will be as good as everyones making him out to be. I don't completey agree 100% with what you say. I think he will have moderate sucess and then fizzle out. Kinda like Young.

[Malakai432]

Thank you Nostradamus. Can you please tell me who will win the NBA finals this year and if so in how many games as well? You're getting ahead of yourself assuming RGIII will be a bust. Griffin hasn't even taken a snap in the NFL yet.

I would have to say the Thunder in 7.