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[stonehart1234]

1.1 Andrew Luck QB

2.34 Kendall Reyes DT/DE or Brandon Thompson DT

3.64 Jamell Fleming CB or Trevin Wade CB

4.97 Brian Quick WR or Greg Childs WR

5.136 Tommy Streeter WR

5.170 Hebron Fangupo DT or Evan Rodriguez FB/TE

6.206 Vontaze Burfict ILB

7.208 Donte Paige-Moss DE or James Hanna TE

7.214 Desmond Wynn OG

7.253 Bobby Rainey RB

UDFA Griff Whalen WR and Scott Wedige C and Damien Jackson FS

Thoughs?

[BProland85]

Not a fan at all sorry.

Both Kendall Reyes and Brandon Thompson are both big reaches at the 34 spot. As are a lot of your other picks. Just too many reaches in this draft.

[Gavin]

1.Luck
2.I would prefer Gilmore just based on his lack of a wrap sheet but Ill take Jenkins to since he can cover real good as well either one
3.AJ Jenkins
4.Ta'amu
5.Dwayne Allen,
5.Tommy Streeter
6.Ryan Broyles
7.Griff Whalen
7.Guard

[AustinCollie17]

Gilmore is most likely a first rounder. Even invited to the draft

[Gavin]

Gilmore is most likely a first rounder. Even invited to the draft

I know but their is a chance even if its slim he falls to the second round, I think my picks are pretty solid picks that can come in and contribute mostly right away

[Nobody]

Good draft. Hate the second round, if your gonna reach make it for a position of dire need.

[Gavin]

Good draft. Hate the second round, if your gonna reach make it for a position of dire need.

who?

[Nobody]

who?

Both.

[Gavin]

Both.

Corner is a dire need

[Mr.Debonair]

Dont think Streeter will be there in the 5th, if so great, I think he'll be as early as late 3rd to mid 4th

[Gavin]

Dont think Streeter will be there in the 5th, if so great, I think he'll be as early as late 3rd to mid 4th

what about the rest of my draft

[Blackhawk4]

1.Luck
2.I would prefer Gilmore just based on his lack of a wrap sheet but Ill take Jenkins to since he can cover real good as well either one
3.AJ Jenkins
4.Ta'amu
5.Dwayne Allen,
5.Tommy Streeter
6.Ryan Broyles
7.Griff Whalen
7.Guard

I don't see Ta'Amu lasting till the 4th, No way Allen goes in the 5th round when he's considered the 2nd best TE behind Fleener and Streeter is likely to go in the 3rd round.

[coltsfanatic24]

gilmore won't make it past bengals and tammu will be a late 2nd round pick

[K-148]

1^st round. Andrew Luck, QB.
2^nd round. Vinny Curry, OLB: no one CB can cover WR for 10 seconds; however, Freeney is in final year of his contract and doesn’t want to play OLB; Jerry Hughes didn’t prove he wasn’t a bust, Mario Addison is a backup at best.
3^rd round. Brandon Brooks, OG: there is only one serviceable OG in Colts roster, Joe Reitz; McGlynn, Murphy, Olsen, Tepper are backups/camp bodies (if Ijalana is going to play OG, then OT is a need, because Winston Justice is not a starter).
4^th round. Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, NT: Brandon McKinney is just a backup.
5^th round. James Hanna, TE.
5^th round. Chris Rainey, RB: special teamer.
6^th round. Adrien Robinson, TE: backup.
7^th round. J.R Sweezy, DE: backup 5-tech.
7^th round. Cody Johnson, FB: Colts have to use a FB.
7^th round. Micah Pellerin, CB: special teamer/ backup/camp body.

[FightLikeSin]

Corner is a dire need

How do you figure that? CB is near the bottom of needs for a 3-4 D. Defensive Line makes that horse gallop...we need a NT or a DE before CB. I'd also put TE and WR above CB for this draft as well.

[Gavin]

we can get Ta'amu or if push comes to shove we can get Baptiste, we have Moala that can play defensive end, Hickman can play defensive end, freeny, nevis, mathis in a rotation in different defensive packages, apparently you havent seen our corners get thrown on left and right for the last 14 years, after Fleener their is no other Tight End even being mentioned n any of the shows covering the draft let alone going early

[FightLikeSin]

we can get Ta'amu or if push comes to shove we can get Baptiste, we have Moala that can play defensive end, Hickman can play defensive end, freeny, nevis, mathis in a rotation in different defensive packages, apparently you havent seen our corners get thrown on left and right for the last 14 years, after Fleener their is no other Tight End even being mentioned n any of the shows covering the draft let alone going early

and you haven't seen our line get run on? Moala is terrible. You and I have never seen Hickman play. Freeny is an OLB. Nevis is a 4-3 DT who apparently is hurt all the time, Mathis is an OLB. So again...we're back to square one.

The proof is in the pudding right? Well here ya go.

According to NFL.com's stat sheet in 2011...

The Colts were ranked 29th out of 32 teams against the run. Ranked higher than the Browns, Rams and Bucs.

The Colts were ranked 15th out of 32 teams against the pass. Ranked higher than the 49rs, Cardinals and Broncos.

We have bigger needs than DB's right now. It starts with the D-line.

[Gavin]

and you haven't seen our line get run on? Moala is terrible. You and I have never seen Hickman play. Freeny is an OLB. Nevis is a 4-3 DT who apparently is hurt all the time, Mathis is an OLB. So again...we're back to square one.

The proof is in the pudding right? Well here ya go.

According to NFL.com's stat sheet in 2011...

The Colts were ranked 29th out of 32 teams against the run. Ranked higher than the Browns, Rams and Bucs.

The Colts were ranked 15th out of 32 teams against the pass. Ranked higher than the 49rs, Cardinals and Broncos.

We have bigger needs than DB's right now. It starts with the D-line.

I know what the stats are, I seen them a few times already, yes we need a defensive linemen primarily defensive tackle which we can get in the middle rounds, if we go corner in the middle or late rounds I guarantee you he will be a project player and will eventually be released because most project players are thats why they are projects

[FightLikeSin]

I know what the stats are, I seen them a few times already, yes we need a defensive linemen primarily defensive tackle which we can get in the middle rounds, if we go corner in the middle or late rounds I guarantee you he will be a project player and will eventually be released because most project players are thats why they are projects

Well I hate to break it to you but good players don't only exist in the 1st and 2nd round. Arian Foster was undrafted and he's now considered a top 5 running back. If Grigson does his job, he'll be able to spot those kinds of guys and get us going in the right direction. CB is not a premier position in a 3-4, thus we don't need to spend a high draft pick on it. The depth of NT and DE are far more shallow than CB's this year and we need to get some D-Line help immediately. Not saying we couldn't get one in a middle round, but the drop off of talent is way more substantial in that category.

Again, unless Claiborne or Gilmore are there, I'm going BPA, and there are plenty of 1st round talents to choose from that can help our team a lot more than a CB.

[coltsfanatic24]

kevin thomas is actually good in man coverage but we played mostly cover 2 and powers is great man cover cb. we do need a cb to play slot but jenkins off the field issues is very risky for our 2nd pick. the only starter we have on our d line is redding. mckinney is a backup nt,maola , antonio johnson aren't good vs the run and nevis is a 4-3 dt. if a guy like peter konz or cordy glenn falls we have to take them because castonzo,setele,ijilana are the only offensive linemen that are good.

[GrizzColt]

1^st round. Andrew Luck, QB.
2^nd round. Vinny Curry, OLB: no one CB can cover WR for 10 seconds; however, Freeney is in final year of his contract and doesn’t want to play OLB; Jerry Hughes didn’t prove he wasn’t a bust, Mario Addison is a backup at best.
3^rd round. Brandon Brooks, OG: there is only one serviceable OG in Colts roster, Joe Reitz; McGlynn, Murphy, Olsen, Tepper are backups/camp bodies (if Ijalana is going to play OG, then OT is a need, because Winston Justice is not a starter).
4^th round. Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, NT: Brandon McKinney is just a backup.
5^th round. James Hanna, TE.
5^th round. Chris Rainey, RB: special teamer.
6^th round. Adrien Robinson, TE: backup.
7^th round. J.R Sweezy, DE: backup 5-tech.
7^th round. Cody Johnson, FB: Colts have to use a FB.
7^th round. Micah Pellerin, CB: special teamer/ backup/camp body.

I like your draft better than the other 2 except you have to toss in at least 1 corner I would think. Our GM is an ex Olineman and our coach was a Dcoordinator. I think your draft expresses what they deem important. While we would like an all WR draft it ain't gonna happen nor would it be a smart move. We have to stop the run (NT) and rush the QB(OLB).

[Brian Casserly]

Okay, my own mini big board. Bold is the first two rounds and the rest are no doubt possible mid to late round to FA selections:

QB Andrew Luck, Stanford
DT Michael Brockers, LSU (will likely be long gone)
DT Alameda Ta'amu Washington (We have a legitimate shot at landing him)
TE Coby Fleener (odds are will not fall past the 49ers...but if he does, he should be there in round 2)
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DE Tyrone Crawford, Boise State
CB Janoris Jenkins, North Alabama (A lot of teams are apparently pulling him completely off of their board and no doubt our visit with him will have a big impact on the decision)
C Gino Gradkowski, Delaware (Kinda light in the butt however Center is way thin in this draft. If we want one, he's the only thing around)
OLB Tim Fugger, Vanderbilt
DE Matt Conrath, Virginia (Maybe OLB)
LB D.J.Bryant, James Madison
TE Adrien Robinson, Cincinnati
CB Keith Tandy, West Virginia
CB Chris Greenwood, Albion
CB Dwight Bentley, Louisiana-Lafayette
S Tavon Wilson, Illinois
OG Brandon Brooks, U. of Miami, Ohio
P Brian Stahovich, San Diego State

[Brian Casserly]

Hebron Fangupo DT

I like this guy. Kinda short but...

[Brian Casserly]

Good draft. Hate the second round, if your gonna reach make it for a position of dire need.

Definitely NT...IMHO.

[Brian Casserly]

Corner is a dire need

I don't think so. It is a need but I don't think it trumps a Dlineman.

[Brian Casserly]

The Colts were ranked 29th out of 32 teams against the run. Ranked higher than the Browns, Rams and Bucs. The Colts were ranked 15th out of 32 teams against the pass. Ranked higher than the 49rs, Cardinals and Broncos. We have bigger needs than DB's right now. It starts with the D-line.

Spot on. A lot of Colts fans are perpetually calling for high CB selections. And a good one would be nice but our line is a priority and I suspect Pagano is thinking the same. Add in the reality that without Haloti Ngata, Ray Lewis is already retired. And the writing is on the wall with regards to how a 3/4 prospers.

[Nobody]

Definitely NT...IMHO.

That's not dire need when we just signed a good one. WR, TE, CB, maybe even OG.

[Brian Casserly]

That's not dire need when we just signed a good one. WR, TE, CB, maybe even OG.

???

nah we signed depth. And we just signed a #2 speed receiver so that's straight. Depending on the type of offense we run TE may or may not be a "dire" need. Neither you or I can say. And some OG would be nice. But all of that still comes behind NT...and truth be told, maybe even DE. JMO

[alfred87]

That's not dire need when we just signed a good one. WR, TE, CB, maybe even OG.

What good one? McKinnie is not a starter

[Nobody]

What good one? McKinnie is not a starter

Okay sure. That's your opinion.

[Nobody]

IMO using #34 on a NT is a HUGE waste. Responding to Brian and Alfred.

[BLOODontheTRACKS]

Not a fan at all sorry.

Both Kendall Reyes and Brandon Thompson are both big reaches at the 34 spot. As are a lot of your other picks. Just too many reaches in this draft.

that's not a reach for reyes at all...he is seen as a late first early second by most

[FightLikeSin]

IMO using #34 on a NT is a HUGE waste. Responding to Brian and Alfred.

yes. using a 2nd round pick on the most significant position in a 3-4 defense when you have a 6 year backup with a total of 39 career solo tackles....definitely a waste.. *sarcasm*

[Nobody]

yes. using a 2nd round pick on the most significant position in a 3-4 defense when you have a 6 year backup with a total of 39 career solo tackles....definitely a waste.. *sarcasm*

He wasnt even a backup for good 3-4 teams, the ravens and the chargers? Ha! They suck don't they?! *sarcasm* tired of wasting 2nd and 3rd round picks on DTs. You can't fix everything in one offseason, why reach?

[Gavin]

The league is a pass first run second philosophy now do to the new rules, we need a corner with our second pick its that simple

[HyToCrItE]

How do you figure that? CB is near the bottom of needs for a 3-4 D. Defensive Line makes that horse gallop...we need a NT or a DE before CB. I'd also put TE and WR above CB for this draft as well.

I have to disagree with all of your points except that NT and TE are bigger needs (debatable). Our depth chart at corner looks awful. Rucker and Thomas were both embarrassingly bad last year. Corner is one of the most crucial positions in football, especially in a 3-4 where they have to have man coverage skills. The NFL is a quarterback's league. Pass coverage is nearly as important (if not equally) than pass rush, particularly when the unit has little talent and are learning a different system.

[INDYCOLTS18]

1.Andrew Luck
2.Coby Fleener
3.Jamell Fleming
4.A.J Jenkins
5. Nick Jean Baptiste
5. Audie Cole
6. Dale Moss
7. Brandon Lindsey
7.Markus Kuhn
7.Antoine McClain

[K-148]

I like your draft better than the other 2 except you have to toss in at least 1 corner I would think. Our GM is an ex Olineman and our coach was a Dcoordinator. I think your draft expresses what they deem important. While we would like an all WR draft it ain't gonna happen nor would it be a smart move. We have to stop the run (NT) and rush the QB(OLB).

Thanks.
I want to explain why I’m not fond of idea drafting CB or WR with the 2^nd or 3^rd round picks. This year, I mean.
WR: last season Colts used I formation with only 2 WR (Wayne, Garson) a lot. That’s why Anthony Gonzalez was not utilized and Austin Collie was underutilized. With only 2 WR starting every week we don’t need 5-6 WR in roster. Right now Wayne is # 2 WR, and Austin Collie is #3 WR. We can’t get excellent #1 WR with our 2^nd round pick (Blackmon, Floyd, Wright, Hill are 1^st rounders for sure), but we can get excellent FB with our 6^th round pick. So lets protect Luck by drafting OL with 2^nd – 3^rd round pick and help him to make a transition to the NFL by putting emphasis on running game.
CB: last season Colts had only 29 sacks, only Titans (28) and Buccaneers (23) had fewer. Sure, CB’s play was a part of it, but what part? I’m not ready to mark Rucker, Thomas as awful, I just want Colts to draft player, who is able to put heavy pressure on QB from 3-4 packages. Heck, even Derek Wolfe, 5-tech from Cincinnati has better value in 2^nd round (if I remember correctly, Fili Moala, projected 5-tech in our new 3-4 defense, is in final year of his contract and Cory Redding is 31 years old).

[Peytonparker]

1. Luck
2. Janoris Jenkins CB
3. Ta'Amu NT
4. Orson Charles TE
5. TommyStreeter WR
5. Ryan Broyles WR
6. Dale Moss WR
7. Vontaze Burfict ILB
7. Mike Harris CB

[Peytonparker]

I would have to think everyone would be happy if it worked out that way