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[TKnight85]

Hello Colts Family

Seems our very own Robert Mathis is interested in bringing Percy Harvin to Lucas Oil Stadium. Just posted this Tweet a few minutes ago.

(@RobertMathis98)
Vikes talking trade for Percy!? #WARNING!! Playmaker on the loose & does #NOT need 2 escape the #MidWest, espicially the "HOOSIER STATE"

I'm guessing Hooisers are the Indy Team? Not really sure . What do you guys think?

[ColtJ82]

Not sure anyone would NOT be interested in having him on their team. I am personally indifferent. He would be nice, but I don't want his contract given his health issues to date. TY can fill the role (obvious no Percy) well enough.

[corgi]

I'd normally give a more in depth reply, but I'm going to have to sit this one out due to a migraine.

[TKnight85]

I just thought Id share this. I myself am trying to figure out what Mathis sees in him. Must be something we don't know

[Dustin]

He's one of the most explosive players in the league and was an MVP candidate for the first 9 weeks of the season before getting injured. He'd be a great addition, but he's proven to be a bit injury prone. Does anybody know what his contract is?

[weslo1812]

He's got attitude problems and maturity problems from what I hear. Plus he's gonna expect a big money extension and there's the Injury problem. Plus can we really afford giving up draft picks. If were gonna spend money on a reciever in the offseason Id rather it be a guy like Bowe. Or just draft a guy with high upside/potential. Just not worth it at all to me.

[Dustin]

Averaged 8.9 YAC before he got hurt.

[MrNLM]

Dude is young and asking for too much money with the problems he brings. Someone will pay him... not us though. Dude would be smart to take a huge paycut to work with a QB like Luck though. I think Cincy should persue him HARD! Harvin does his YAC thing and Green does his catch/TD thing and Cincy has a respectable offense to go deep into the playoffs with.

[Nobody]

Not sure anyone would NOT be interested in having him on their team. I am personally indifferent. He would be nice, but I don't want his contract given his health issues to date. TY can fill the role (obvious no Percy) well enough.

TY had more reveiving yards and
TDs than Harvin his rookie year (where he won OROY).

[Dustin]

[Dustin]

TY had more reveiving yards and
TDs than Harvin his rookie year (where he won OROY).

 

Harvin also had 135 rush yards and over 1,000 return yards.

[ColtJ82]

TY had more reveiving yards and
TDs than Harvin his rookie year (where he won OROY).

I think TY is a better WR, but Percy is a better play maker (taking the ball and making a big play out of it). On the flipside, I think TY will take less of a beating in the WCO. I think we are good with TY.

[Restored]

He's got attitude problems and maturity problems from what I hear. Plus he's gonna expect a big money extension and there's the Injury problem. Plus can we really afford giving up draft picks. If were gonna spend money on a reciever in the offseason Id rather it be a guy like Bowe. Or just draft a guy with high upside/potential. Just not worth it at all to me.

I honestly believe his attitude problem being more related to the team and more particularly the QB he's stuck with. He knows that Ponder can't get him the ball outside of a screen pass. Luck on the other hand can get him the ball. Imagine Percy on the outside along with TY in the slot. We'd have teams in a two deep look all game and be able to run the ball up and down the field and dictate at will.

Now for the cons, he is injury prone. No migraine problems anymore but he got hurt elsewhere. I'm really not in favor of giving up draft picks for players but if we really want to take the next step, he'd be the perfect guy to do it.

[LeRyan07]

Percy Harvin is a play maker! I would love if the colts picked him up!

[Dustin]

It would probably take a 1st to get him.

[Restored]

It would probably take a 1st to get him.

We could do a 2nd and 6th?

[SupermanLuck12]

Harvin and Luck would tear it up! Good coaching we have as well, we could definitely get this kid on the right track.

[Dustin]

We could do a 2nd and 6th?

 

We don't have a 2nd because of the Davis trade.

[SupermanLuck12]

We could give up a 2nd rounder in a different draft though.

[Restored]

We don't have a 2nd because of the Davis trade.

We could do a differen draft.

Interesting excerpt from NFL.com article on this.

"Any team dealing for Harvin will have to pony up for an extension, likely more than $10 million per season. Considering his baggage, an NFL personnel man estimated that Harvin would fetch just a second- or third-round pick in return. One writer covering the Vikings bets the New England Patriots will go after Harvin, as head coach Bill Belichick "loves" the league's premier slot receiver."

[Dustin]

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[weslo1812]

mmmm there are better options through draft or free agency. Plus we got Hilton and possibly Brazil as deep threats. And I hope we get someone bigger on the outside anyways. The offense isnt going to all about going deep anymore either. Its a higher risk than it is a reward to me. honestly believe his attitude problem being more related to the team and more particularly the QB he's stuck with. He knows that Ponder can't get him the ball outside of a screen pass. Luck on the other hand can get him the ball. Imagine Percy on the outside along with TY in the slot. We'd have teams in a two deep look all game and be able to run the ball up and down the field and dictate at will.

Now for the cons, he is injury prone. No migraine problems anymore but he got hurt elsewhere. I'm really not in favor of giving up draft picks for players but if we really want to take the next step, he'd be the perfect guy to do it.

[Jim H.]

Operative phrase - "before he to got hurt."

Please, no more sideline warriors/bench riders (Addai, Brown, etc.)

[ruksak]

I'd normally give a more in depth reply, but I'm going to have to sit this one out due to a migraine.

I see what you did there. 

[Dustin]

We could do a differen draft.

Interesting excerpt from NFL.com article on this.

"Any team dealing for Harvin will have to pony up for an extension, likely more than $10 million per season. Considering his baggage, an NFL personnel man estimated that Harvin would fetch just a second- or third-round pick in return. One writer covering the Vikings bets the New England Patriots will go after Harvin, as head coach Bill Belichick "loves" the league's premier slot receiver."

 

There's probably teams that would be willing to give them this years 2nd though. If we were to give up a future pick we would also have to give up more than we would if we had given out a pick from this years draft.

 

If we do a future 2nd then we'd probably have to also give up this year and next years 3rd as well.

 

If were to have a 2nd rounder this year than it would probably only cost the 2nd and 3rd this year.

[TKnight85]

I don't think we should pull the trigger on him if we're gonna give up a Draft Pick from this Year. We barely have any now. And WR isn't exactly a "Primary Need". But we'll see what Grigson does. This off-season is shaping up to be something great

[Dustin]

Operative phrase - "before he to got hurt."

Please, no more sideline warriors/bench riders (Addai, Brown, etc.)

 

This is the only season he has missed significant time.

[gacker65]

No. to much pay and to much time on the sidelines.

[Freenyfan102]

Yes is a player maker but he also the bob sanders of WR that guy is just never healthy

[Restored]

There's probably teams that would be willing to give them this years 2nd though. If we were to give up a future pick we would also have to give up more than we would if we had given out a pick from this years draft.

If we do a future 2nd then we'd probably have to also give up this year and next years 3rd as well.

If were to have a 2nd rounder this year than it would probably only cost the 2nd and 3rd this year.

Eh, I'm not so sure the year the picks are in would matter much if they are in a 1-2 year window of each other. I believe we could snatch him up for a 3rd.

But I say a third because from what the article says, he had a major blow up with both of Minn's recent head coaches and the most recent one (Lesile Fraiser, former Colts assistant) occurred in front of teammates. Not sure what to think on that one.

[Dustin]

No. to much pay and to much time on the sidelines.

 

 

Yes is a player maker but he also the bob sanders of WR that guy is just never healthy

 

This is the only season he has missed more than 2 games.

[tydontlie]

Mannn I would love for us to get Harvin! He is probably the most versital player in the leauge..the guy can do everything AND do It well! the guy played WR, RB, KR and PR.. a special talent and a big time threat everytime he touches the ball. Get em Grigs!

[Dustin]

Eh, I'm not so sure the year the picks are in would matter much if they are in a 1-2 year window of each other. I believe we could snatch him up for a 3rd.

But I say a third because from what the article says, he had a major blow up with both of Minn's recent head coaches and the most recent one (Lesile Fraiser, former Colts assistant) occurred in front of teammates. Not sure what to think on that one.

 

I get what you're saying, but there's probably a team out there that's going to give up a lot for him. Belichick has been making some huge moves the past 2 years. He knows his window is closing and is trying to make a final run before he retires. That's where I expect him to go.

[Freenyfan102]

This is the only season he has missed more than 2 games.

yeah this season......Bob sander was healthy for a season too once... Then he went back and looked from the side lines

[Restored]

I get what you're saying, but there's probably a team out there that's going to give up a lot for him. Belichick has been making some huge moves the past 2 years. He knows his window is closing and is trying to make a final run before he retires. That's where I expect him to go.

I could see that too. Heck, I'd want us to get him just so he doesn't go to the pats . But in all honesty, bellichick has tried bringing in previously good talent at the WR position and it really hasn't worked out (Ocho, B. Loyd, Deion Branch off&on). Don't know if they'd keep taking risks in keeping a revolving door at reciever. I'd like to think they want some cohesion and give Brady some stable talent to build a repor with IMO

[Dustin]

yeah this season......Bob sander was healthy for a season too once... Then he went back and looked from the side lines

 

He's played four seasons and has played 14 games in each of them other than this season. He's not injury prone.

[Freenyfan102]

he was out last year due to being on injured reserve and he also been out some games due to illness.

[Dustin]

he was out last year due to being on injured reserve and he also been out some games due to illness.

 

The only injury he has suffered was a torn ligament in his ankle that happened week 10 of this season. He hasn't had migraine issues in over 2 years.

[Gavin]

Not worth losing a draft pick over with only one more year on his deal, pass and make a bid on him next year in FA

[HyToCrItE]

If we really need a playmaker at WR then it would be so much cheaper to draft Allen/Woods at #24 (which is not what we should do, IMO)

They may never be as good as Harvin, but the cost/benefit would be much better for the team in the long run than giving up a first and paying what he would command... maybe if we could get him for a third it would balance the situation a bit more.