has he done enough this year to change our mindset of him or do you still consider him a bust
jerry hughes
#1
Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:25 PM
its not T.Y its T.watttttttttt WHAT DID T JUST DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#2
Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:34 PM
So no, I don't think he's a bust and he's still very young. If given a proper chance next year, I expect him to contribute well.
#3
Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:38 PM
He is not a bust
PrincetonTiger77
#4
Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:51 PM
Perhaps not a bust, but certainly not what the Colts were hoping for.
He's OK to pretty good. Seems to give good effort.
I think he's got one more year on his deal... certainly no more than two. I expect the Colts to bring him back for next season.
#5
Posted 27 December 2012 - 12:57 PM
He has been pretty good ,but no hes not the Game Changer they were hoping to get,but lets see how he does next year with a healthier DL then we will see for sure . IMO jury is still out ![]()
#6
Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:09 PM
Perhaps not a bust, but certainly not what the Colts were hoping for.
He's OK to pretty good. Seems to give good effort.
I think he's got one more year on his deal... certainly no more than two. I expect the Colts to bring him back for next season.
Yeah, he has two more years. We don't know if Dwight will be back, so it's pretty certain we'll keep Hughes. From what I read his cap hit is over double his salary so financially it makes sense too.
Bust? He's still playing, just not like we expect a first rounder should.
#7
Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:17 PM
i mention bust because thats what a lot of posters believed he was before the season thats not my opinion
its not T.Y its T.watttttttttt WHAT DID T JUST DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#8
Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:21 PM
6 starts this year in the first year of a new defense 4 sacks in those 6 starts and 39 tackles, Pretty good given the number of starts. He has 2 more years left on his deal and he is only 24. He fits the Robert Mathis role
#9
Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:25 PM
i mention bust because thats what a lot of posters believed he was before the season thats not my opinion
I guess we need to define 'bust'. Jamarcus Russell is a bust. A first rounder that doesn't start is a disappointment, but I don't think he's a bust. Plus it's not like he was a high first rounder.
He's serviceable this point.
#10
Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:40 PM
has he done enough this year to change our mindset of him or do you still consider him a bust
IMO he's done more than enough, he has great speed and pass rushing ability and if my memory serves me correct he has more sacks than Freeny does, i believe he can be an impact player if given more snaps, thats why i honestly think this will be Freeny's last seson with the colts. Mathis will slide over to the right side and Hughes will start opposite. I love Freeny, he's an amazing athlete and from my hometown but i don't see him in a colts uni next season..
#11
Posted 27 December 2012 - 01:48 PM
He has played pretty well in this new system
PrincetonTiger77
#12
Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:03 PM
He has been pretty good ,but no hes not the Game Changer they were hoping to get,but lets see how he does next year with a healthier DL then we will see for sure . IMO jury is still out
He is so much better on the "Mathis' side than on the Freeney side. They really need to explain to both within this system, however what the he double hockey sticks contain is!
When I played, I loved to sack the QB, but to have a great running back see you waiting for him in contain is sooooooooooooo PRICELESS!
Hughes gets down and after folks on special teams too.....not a bust, but still not a WIN. Keep improving Jerry! I am with my buddy Jay....this defense is what he needs.... ![]()
#13
Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:13 PM
Jerry Hughes is in on a lot of plays. I would grade him a B- this season, a Solid contributor.
The better our DE`s play the better our OLB can do.
Redding is Solid, and IMO Moala was starting to play pretty darn well.
The front seven succeeds as a unit. We need really good play at NT too. And we need a BIG stud ILB. Someone bigger, faster, longer than what we have now.
With a clean CAP, we have 3 more Drafts to Build the Monster. IMO
#14
Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:17 PM
#15
Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:26 PM
Hopefully we'll keep him around.
#16
Posted 27 December 2012 - 02:48 PM
watching him this year has been encouraging...
has a great motor
#17
Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:26 PM
#18
Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:42 PM
if we knew what we know now (which isn't all that much) we could see he isn't a first round pick. so he has under performed if he went in the 3rd or 4th round he would be a good pick.
#19
Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:43 PM
He talks more trash per play made than any player I've ever seen.
#20
Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:47 PM
He talks more trash per play made than any player I've ever seen.
Dont watch much football do ya? I probably could name over 100 guys easily that talk way more trash that I have seen over the last 17 years of watching football
Terrell Owens immediately comes to mind
#21
Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:54 PM
He was playing in an unfamiiar system until this year
PrincetonTiger77
#22
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:00 PM
And Gavin, I think you totally missed the point of Boiler Colt's post which is Hughes' talk has never matched the level of his play.
#23
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:01 PM
He was playing in an unfamiiar system until this year
What does that mean? The whole freaking defense fits that description.
#24
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:06 PM
Hughes is a JAG - just a guy. One of the Colts key offseason targets will be finding a way to better pressure the QB. If Hughes was something other than a JAG, that would not be the case.
And Gavin, I think you totally missed the point of Boiler Colt's post which is Hughes' talk has never matched the level of his play.
Point being the majority of playrs talk, Play has nothing to do with it, its grown men competing in a physical game banging bodies around play after play in a test of will
#25
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:07 PM
if we knew what we know now (which isn't all that much) we could see he isn't a first round pick. so he has under performed if he went in the 3rd or 4th round he would be a good pick.
Your kinda making a point for me, that it really doesn't matter what round he was picked, what matters is if he can play or not.
#26
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:12 PM
What does that mean? The whole freaking defense fits that description.
he was not a 4-3 guy
PrincetonTiger77
#27
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:23 PM
#28
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:23 PM
he was not a 4-3 guy
He didn't play OLB in a 3-4 in college, he was projected to be a OLB in the NFL because of his size and skill set.
#29
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:26 PM
He could start and produce very well in the Mathis role over a full season, need to draft a player for Freeneys pass rushing role though, But Hughes can be a jack of all trades OLB in the Mathis role
#30
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:29 PM
He could start and produce very well in the Mathis role over a full season, need to draft a player for Freeneys pass rushing role though, But Hughes can be a jack of all trades OLB in the Mathis role
agreed
PrincetonTiger77
#31
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:32 PM
He didn't play OLB in a 3-4 in college, he was projected to be a OLB in the NFL because of his size and skill set.
my bad
PrincetonTiger77
#32
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:33 PM
When you play behind guys like Mathis and Freeney your numbers will be down
PrincetonTiger77
#33
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:41 PM
Dont watch much football do ya? I probably could name over 100 guys easily that talk way more trash that I have seen over the last 17 years of watching football
Terrell Owens immediately comes to mind
Really, don't watch football? Chill. I said per play made,jokingly, meaning he makes so few yet he beats his chest and talks smack every time. To be able to talk trash you should at least be a play-maker.
#34
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:43 PM
my bad
I made the same mistake....he was a hand down left defense end at TCU.......I went by the projections....left side he is much better that the right.
#35
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:49 PM
If you expected him to be Aldon Smith, then yes, he's a bust.
However, if you expected him to be a highly serviceable player that is a decent pass rusher and a player that has improved greatly this season, then no, he's not a bust.
#36
Posted 27 December 2012 - 04:59 PM
my bad
Happens, maybe the projections were right, he needs to stand up and move alittle.
#37
Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:31 PM
When you play behind guys like Mathis and Freeney your numbers will be down
Both Freeney & Mathis have missed multiple games this year to say nothing of the time that he might spell them. There has been ample oppty for him to show something. He has not to this point. Nothing close to his draft status and nothing close to the production needed to where the Colts can let Freeney walk knowing they have his replacement already on the roster.
#38
Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:34 PM
Point being the majority of playrs talk, Play has nothing to do with it, its grown men competing in a physical game banging bodies around play after play in a test of will
1) Thanks for the definition of football. That was really informative.
2) Regarding Hughes, get back to me when his play and talking coincide. You know a talk the talk, walk the walk type stuff.
#39
Posted 27 December 2012 - 05:37 PM
Both Freeney & Mathis have missed multiple games this year to say nothing of the time that he might spell them. There has been ample oppty for him to show something. He has not to this point. *Nothing close to his draft status and nothing close to the production needed to where the Colts can let Freeney walk knowing they have his replacement already on the roster.*
Agreed, he's good enough to keep but not good enough to replace Freeney or Mathis. Not long term anyway.
#40
Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:14 PM















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