Understanding that his first coach in the NFL, the one who made him the big time CB he USED TO BE was Chuck Pagano, does it make sense to pick him up in the offseason?
Nnamdi Asomugha
Started by gbrads_rants, Dec 20 2012 02:52 PM
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:57 PM
He has to be cut first right?
I'm assuming he will be cut
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 02:57 PM
Depends on the defense we run. Nnamdi did much better on one side of the field and I believe Oakland ran a zone defense whereas Philly runs a man-to-man defense.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:01 PM
Depends on the defense we run. Nnamdi did much better on one side of the field and I believe Oakland ran a zone defense whereas Philly runs a man-to-man defense.
Other way around. Nnamdi played better as a man-to-man, but right now he's playing zone and sucking at it. Nnami/Davis would be a great tandem.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:02 PM
Depends on the defense we run. Nnamdi did much better on one side of the field and I believe Oakland ran a zone defense whereas Philly runs a man-to-man defense.
Naw you have it mixed up...Oakland was man to man...Pagano was the DB's coach at the time...Philly is zone.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:05 PM
Other way around. Nnamdi played better as a man-to-man, but right now he's playing zone and sucking at it. Nnami/Davis would be a great tandem.
Naw you have it mixed up...Oakland was man to man...Pagano was the DB's coach at the time...Philly is zone.
My mistake. I had a 50/50 chance of getting it right 
Doesn't sound like Nnamdi wants to leave Philly and will even be willing to take a pay cut to stay there
http://www.nfl.com/n...open-to-pay-cut
When Bob Sanders executes a push up, he does not push himself up. He pushes the world down.
When Bob Sanders was 12, a cobra bit him in the leg. After 4 days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.
Tom Brady can throw a football pretty far. Bob Sanders can throw Tom Brady even farther.
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When Bob Sanders was 12, a cobra bit him in the leg. After 4 days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.
Tom Brady can throw a football pretty far. Bob Sanders can throw Tom Brady even farther.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:06 PM
My mistake. I had a 50/50 chance of getting it right
Doesn't sound like Nnamdi wants to leave Philly and will even be willing to take a pay cut to stay there
http://www.nfl.com/n...open-to-pay-cut
Yeah I just saw that...I wonder if that's fear speaking because he's 31 and just want work. I'm also wondering what effect Andy Reid's presence has on that
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:10 PM
Yeah I just saw that...I wonder if that's fear speaking because he's 31 and just want work. I'm also wondering what effect Andy Reid's presence has on that
True. But I think many people know that he wasn't in the right system in Philly. If he was to be released, I think he would still have a decent number of teams wanting to sign him. He has never had any character issues, never been a problem on or off the field, never been questioned about his work ethic, etc.
When Bob Sanders executes a push up, he does not push himself up. He pushes the world down.
When Bob Sanders was 12, a cobra bit him in the leg. After 4 days of excruciating pain, the cobra died.
Tom Brady can throw a football pretty far. Bob Sanders can throw Tom Brady even farther.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:14 PM
True. But I think many people know that he wasn't in the right system in Philly. If he was to be released, I think he would still have a decent number of teams wanting to sign him. He has never had any character issues, never been a problem on or off the field, never been questioned about his work ethic, etc.
Agreed. I just feel like if it comes down to it he'll come here because of the relationship. Chuck seems to be quite an effective recruiter along with the relationship with Grigs
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:10 PM
Agreed. I just feel like if it comes down to it he'll come here because of the relationship. Chuck seems to be quite an effective recruiter along with the relationship with Grigs
From what I've seen, Chuck is the BEST recruiter out there. I honestly feel that whomever Grigson and Pagano want, they will get.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:19 PM
Think of our secondary with nnamdi,vontae,bethea and byrd or goldson. I get shudders just thinking about it 
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:46 PM
From what I've seen, Chuck is the BEST recruiter out there. I honestly feel that whomever Grigson and Pagano want, they will get.
Remember, a lot of the guys Grigs/Pags recruited weren't all that highly coveted. Some were, like Reggie, but he wanted to come back.
This time around, we'll likely be going after much bigger fish. They'll have more options and some of them may be for more money than we're willing to spend. In short, the recruiting will be different this time around.
Just some food for thought....
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:58 PM
I'd say he's definitely worth a look. I think he'd be great in our man cover scheme and a great tandem with Davis. And wed be reuniting him with the DB coach that helped to make him one of the top shutdown corners in football. Only rub I can see is his price tag, if we can get him to a reasonable and justifiable deal, then I'd say definitely pick him up.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:07 PM
No no oh wait no
Sign Avril over Kruger
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:16 PM
Absolutely Not! His skills as a CB, or glaring lack thereof, were exposed under Andy Reid's tenure in Philadelphia. He's no Asante Samuel IMO. I don't want him in INDY at all.
The weird thing HOF CB & Safety Rod Woodson is actually coaching in Oakland. Perhaps, Nnamdi should go back for a refresher course.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:10 PM
I'd take him in a heartbeat. I'd even consider trading a conditional late-round pick to get him at his current contract which is $15M next year ($4M guaranteed) and $12M unguaranteed in 2014 and 2015.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:42 PM
If Nnamdi gets cut, sign me up to work on a website like nnamdiacolt.com or something to get him to come here. If he gets cut, he'll be #2 on my wish list, Jairus Byrd being #1. Just thinking of what GCG5150 mentioned, Vontae and Nnamdi paired with Bethea and Byrd... WOW.
I'd like to pick up Justin Hunter or DeAndre Hopkins in the first, Barret Jones in the third, and Damion Stafford late.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:51 PM
If Nnamdi gets cut, sign me up to work on a website like nnamdiacolt.com or something to get him to come here. If he gets cut, he'll be #2 on my wish list, Jairus Byrd being #1. Just thinking of what GCG5150 mentioned, Vontae and Nnamdi paired with Bethea and Byrd... WOW.
Your signing Jarius Byrd suggestion sounds fantastic to me Steagles. I can certainly support that plan of action 100% Steagles! 
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 04:19 PM
Your signing Jarius Byrd suggestion sounds fantastic to me Steagles. I can certainly support that plan of action 100% Steagles!Feel free to like the facebook page: http://www.facebook....JairusByrdColts
I'd like to pick up Justin Hunter or DeAndre Hopkins in the first, Barret Jones in the third, and Damion Stafford late.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 04:38 PM
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:24 AM
Absolutely Not! His skills as a CB, or glaring lack thereof, were exposed under Andy Reid's tenure in Philadelphia. He's no Asante Samuel IMO. I don't want him in INDY at all.
The weird thing HOF CB & Safety Rod Woodson is actually coaching in Oakland. Perhaps, Nnamdi should go back for a refresher course.
I gotta disagree with you on this one SW.....
He did have a poor year last year, but that was due to the fact that they were having him play zone coverage regularly. He is the quintessential press corner, and this year they're letting him play his style. There isn't a better guy in the league at jamming his man at the LOS and blanketing him on his route. He's never been a 'numbers' kinda guy, teams just don't throw his direction. Unfortunately for him, he played most of his career in Oakland, and then he went to an even more dysfunctional franchise in Philly.
I would honestly drain my bank account to get him here in Indy.....lucky for me I'd only lose about $80.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:19 AM
I gotta disagree with you on this one SW.....
He did have a poor year last year, but that was due to the fact that they were having him play zone coverage regularly. He is the quintessential press corner, and this year they're letting him play his style. There isn't a better guy in the league at jamming his man at the LOS and blanketing him on his route. He's never been a 'numbers' kinda guy, teams just don't throw his direction. Unfortunately for him, he played most of his career in Oakland, and then he went to an even more dysfunctional franchise in Philly.
I would honestly drain my bank account to get him here in Indy.....lucky for me I'd only lose about $80.
Perhaps, you are right Peytonator. Maybe it was zone vs man to man in Oakland. And yes, Philadelphia's defense was completely dysfunctional. I often wonder what defensive mastermind Jim Johnson would have done with Nnamdi in his scheme if he was still alive...Intriguing...
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 02:27 AM
Perhaps, you are right Peytonator. Maybe it was zone vs man to man in Oakland. And yes, Philadelphia's defense was completely dysfunctional. I often wonder what defensive mastermind Jim Johnson would have done with Nnamdi in his scheme if he was still alive...Intriguing...
That's an interesting thing to think about. I can't pretend to know a lot about Jim Johnson's defensive style, but he definitely got a lot out of his defenses. It's impossible to compare an Asante Samuel type corner to a Nnamdi Asomugha type. They play the exact opposite type of coverage, but there is no denying that with the right defensive mind, they could have formed the nastiest CB tandem in the NFL.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 11:32 AM
unsure him coming to Indy.
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:20 PM
Think of our secondary with nnamdi,vontae,bethea and byrd or goldson. I get shudders just thinking about it
Goldson is signed by the 49ers, and I believe it was a five year long-term deal. I may be mistaken though
Tell me what you think….
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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:23 PM
Goldson is signed by the 49ers, and I believe it was a five year long-term deal. I may be mistaken though
From what i know, he's only signed a 1 year tender worth 6.3 million
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 02:11 AM
From what i know, he's only signed a 1 year tender worth 6.3 million
5150 is correct....
Goldson is on a 1-year deal for $6+ Mill.
He's a UFA this coming off-season.
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 02:14 PM
i hope we get goldson and nnamdi asomugha and levitre and a person on the dline to go with chapman and redding.
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 02:15 PM
but do what you do grigson your the gm
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 02:16 PM
That's an interesting thing to think about. I can't pretend to know a lot about Jim Johnson's defensive style, but he definitely got a lot out of his defenses. It's impossible to compare an Asante Samuel type corner to a Nnamdi Asomugha type. They play the exact opposite type of coverage, but there is no denying that with the right defensive mind, they could have formed the nastiest CB tandem in the NFL.
maybe the nastiest cb triplet in the NFL
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 05:10 PM
I think Nnamdi would be an interesting option if he is released if he can be signed by a resonable contract. Althougth there are complaints from the Eagles fans about his run support (or lack there of). There was even someone on a Eagles fan site tthat was doing an analyis of his play, and they showed were a receiver pushed him down the field 30 yards on a run to his side. Not sure this is normal or not, but no matter how good your coverage skills are that would be a problem.
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 05:28 PM
I feel kinda bad for Nnamdi though. In Oakland, he was feared by the vast majority of OC's in the NFL, but since arriving in Philadelphia, he is no longer feared at all...A strange turn of events really...Cream of the crop to bottom of the barrel...
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Posted 23 December 2012 - 09:17 PM
theres worse proble
I feel kinda bad for Nnamdi though. In Oakland, he was feared by the vast majority of OC's in the NFL, but since arriving in Philadelphia, he is no longer feared at all...A strange turn of events really...Cream of the crop to bottom of the barrel...
there are worse problems then nnamdi not being thought of as the shutdown corner he was in oakland, but i still think he probably is one just playing in the wrong scheme in philly but if put in the right one he'd succeed like before
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 06:22 AM
If Nnamdi gets cut, sign me up to work on a website like nnamdiacolt.com or something to get him to come here. If he gets cut, he'll be #2 on my wish list, Jairus Byrd being #1. Just thinking of what GCG5150 mentioned, Vontae and Nnamdi paired with Bethea and Byrd... WOW.
Just curious really, would you play Byrd at SS alongside Bethea??
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 08:10 AM
Nnamdi would be great but taking age into account, I'd rather have Rodgers-Cromartie. With Pagano's influence and motivation, I think DRC would/could become one of the best CB's in the league. Pair him next to Davis and we have possibly the best CB tandem in the league. Goldson would be a great addition as well. We do definitely have to address the OL in free agency too though.
The meaning of the word "irony" seems to be lost on some.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:33 PM
He was never going to work out in Philly, he is a man cover corner, playing a zone scheme. If I was him I'd want to make a move to another Man Cover scheme. And I would definitely want to reunite with Pags.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:15 PM
I'd take him in a heartbeat. I'd even consider trading a conditional late-round pick to get him at his current contract which is $15M next year ($4M guaranteed) and $12M unguaranteed in 2014 and 2015.
Yes.
Even take that $15m base salary and convert some into a bonus to lower his cap hit, if necessary. There's no signing bonus on his contract ($9m roster bonus, the highest I can recall seeing), which gives his team a bunch of flexibility. Of course, the Eagles will probably do something like that.
I don't understand all this noise about him not being good. They're misusing him in a zone scheme, when he's one of the best man cover guys in the league. This is what the pundits said when he signed there, that he wouldn't be the same because of the scheme. Another head scratching move by Andy Reid. In Pagano's defense, Nnamdi would be a top ten corner, easily.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 07:31 PM
No one knows who the head coach in Philly will be next year or what defensive scheme they'll bring with them. I still don't think he hits the market.
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