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[Smonroe]

Not sure if this has already been posted. I think it's pretty amazing that a guy who most of us thought would be a nickle at best is being recognized by the league.

I'm not buying into him being a quality starter, not yet. But I have to admit, the kid is aggressive. I always said I'd rather have the DBs play tight, even if they get beat now and then, than play 15 yards off the WR on 3rd and 7.

[Gavin]

Congrats to Vaughn well earned I think

[JoKeR]

The INT was caught in zone coverage, Vaughn just reacting quickly to what he saw.

[Malakai432]

Might develop into a quality back up. I'd he keeps it up the sky is the limit.

[Gavin]

The INT was caught in zone coverage, Vaughn just reacting quickly to what he saw.

Thats what the good Corners do (No I dont think that 1 pick makes him a good Corner but still a nice play and it went back for a crucial score)

[JoKeR]

Thats what the good Corners do (No I dont think that 1 pick makes him a good Corner but still a nice play and it went back for a crucial score)

Absolutely, I'm just pointing out he was in zone, not man. That play looked almost exactly like Butler's 1st INT as a Colt except Vaughn started out nearly in a 10 yard cushion. Great play.

[ColtsLegacy]

Excuse me for being Sir Buzz Killington but Locker played that pick 6 so terribly I would have been able to pick that off and fall in the end zone. Regardless, congratulations to Vaughn and way to make the play when it's there.

[chrisfarley]

Excuse me for being Sir Buzz Killington but Locker played that pick 6 so terribly I would have been able to pick that off and fall in the end zone. Regardless, congratulations to Vaughn and way to make the play when it's there.

Yea, but Sir Buzz, he didn't do what a lot of corners do, drop a sure thing ...... some corners hands are concrete. He did what good corners do, he held on to the INT.
Locker did bone that one however.

[ColtsLegacy]

Yea, but Sir Buzz, he didn't do what a lot of corners do, drop a sure thing ...... some corners hands are concrete. He did what good corners do, he held on to the INT.
Locker did bone that one however.

Excuse me for being Sir Buzz Killington but Locker played that pick 6 so terribly I would have been able to pick that off and fall in the end zone. Regardless, congratulations to Vaughn and way to make the play when it's there.

I know, hence the bolded line.

[Eltelaol]

Vaughn gets destroyed15 times a game on that play alone. Then he gets tore up on the other plays. That is the only side QBs pass on. He is not impressive in my openion. I keep saying how much I like Butler (like he is my brother or something) but he has great reaction and vision for--- the short time I have seen play.

Go Butler!!!

[chrisfarley]

Vaughn gets destroyed15 times a game on that play alone. Then he gets tore up on the other plays. That is the only side QBs pass on. He is not impressive in my openion. I keep saying how much I like Butler (like he is my brother or something) but he has great reaction and vision for--- the short time I have seen play.

Go Butler!!!

butler has weaknesses in certain areas and strengths in others, just like Vaughn and Davis. I think they are all going to need to compliement one another and get playing time by rotation. Shaub is going to pick on ALL of them and hopefully we can "PICK" on him.
With names like Darius, Cassius, and Vontae..... how can we go wrong.

[lollygagger8]

Hey, every dog has his day. Good job Vaughn......for once

[The Fish]

This only counts if he keeps repeating the good parts of this last game.

[Narcosys]

On that INT he had the safety over the top so he new he was covered. He also kept his eye on his WR. As soon as the WR stopped he took a quick look at the QB and jumped for the ball. Had it been a pump fake he would have been toast like he has done a couple times.

[Esquire59]

What scares me is Vaughn is the worst player on the field for our team. Yep, worse than Seth Olsen. Guy makes a great play on a radar-locked turrrble pick-6 throw by Locker. Yes, great play - anyone could've and should've made it. He made a stronger play on a big open field tackle later on. Then, he's named AFC defensive player of the week? That catapults our worst player into a more prominent role. Anyone who watches the film on the first three quarters of that game, of Detroit, of New England or any other game Vaughn's played in can see that he's atrocious. Locker completed passes against Vaughn 11 or 15 times! Butler, Gordy, Williams, ANYONE should be starting at LCB than Vaughn.

[PrincetonTiger]

Congrats

[SupermanLuck12]

My Grandmother could catch a ball off of Vaughn.. The guy makes Jason David look solid..

[jbaron04]

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Gavin" data-cid="358713" data-time="1355349006"><p>
Thats what the good Corners do (No I dont think that 1 pick makes him a good Corner but still a nice play and it went back for a crucial score)</p></blockquote>I thought it was man then an he jump cause didnt we blitz

[Smonroe]

<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Gavin" data-cid="358713" data-time="1355349006"><p>
Thats what the good Corners do (No I dont think that 1 pick makes him a good Corner but still a nice play and it went back for a crucial score)</p></blockquote>I thought it was man then an he jump cause didnt we blitz

Is something wrong with the forum today? Anyone else having a problem trying to post or quote?

[jemack]

Not sure if this has already been posted. I think it's pretty amazing that a guy who most of us thought would be a nickle at best is being recognized by the league.

I'm not buying into him being a quality starter, not yet. But I have to admit, the kid is aggressive. I always said I'd rather have the DBs play tight, even if they get beat now and then, than play 15 yards off the WR on 3rd and 7.

Then this has got to be the slowest week for defensive players in the history of the NFL. He was picked on for 9/10ths of the game and was thrown a gift ( I swear, I saw an Angel deliver the ball to him in slow-mo ), stumbles into the endzone for drama..... D- Player of the Week? To quote my favorite movie.."Well, if that don't beat off"

[NewColtsFan]

 Butler, Gordy, Williams, ANYONE should be starting at LCB than Vaughn.

 

 

 

You might want to consider that our coaching staff, who most here believe have contributed just a bit to a no-name bunch of players going 9-4 so far think Vaughn is better than you do.

 

So, maybe,  just maybe,  you might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong....   

 

Or not.   Up to you.

[NewColtsFan]

Seems we no longer beat up the OL the way we did the first half of the season.

 

Now, the new target of opportunity are the corners.  

 

Powers?   Sucks!    Don't re-sign him!

Davis?   (Up until a week or so ago)    Sucks!   Why did we trade for him?!    Wish we had that 2nd round pick back!

Butler?      Who's he?    Sucks!

Vaughn?   Sucks!   Anyone could do what he did!    My dead grandmother could do better than that guy!

 

Again and again and again....     maybe the coaching staff knows more than some here believe.

 

You'd think at some point some of the folks here might consider they're wrong?!   (Whoops,  what am I thinking?!   Fat chance of that happening....   <<sigh....>> )

[jemack]

Seems we no longer beat up the OL the way we did the first half of the season.

 

Now, the new target of opportunity are the corners.  

 

Powers?   Sucks!    Don't re-sign him!

Davis?   (Up until a week or so ago)    Sucks!   Why did we trade for him?!    Wish we had that 2nd round pick back!

Butler?      Who's he?    Sucks!

Vaughn?   Sucks!   Anyone could do what he did!    My dead grandmother could do better than that guy!

 

Again and again and again....     maybe the coaching staff knows more than some here believe.

 

You'd think at some point some of the folks here might consider they're wrong?!   (Whoops,  what am I thinking?!   Fat chance of that happening....   <<sigh....>> )

Or maybe, there's no one better to fill that position at this  time........ sad, but true

[Gavin]

9 pass deflections and 1 pick later and the 20th ranked pass defense later. I highly doubt our GM is paying Vaughn to make tackles to extend drives. According to Football Database he has as many penalties as pass deflections (9). I will say I dont know how accurate this is. But if true it just is a small sample of how awful Vaughn has been overall this year, I mean we are talking up there just behind Seth Olsen. http://www.footballd...ies-player.html

[Gavin]

Seems we no longer beat up the OL the way we did the first half of the season.

 

Now, the new target of opportunity are the corners.  

 

Powers?   Sucks!    Don't re-sign him!

Davis?   (Up until a week or so ago)    Sucks!   Why did we trade for him?!    Wish we had that 2nd round pick back!

Butler?      Who's he?    Sucks!

Vaughn?   Sucks!   Anyone could do what he did!    My dead grandmother could do better than that guy!

 

Again and again and again....     maybe the coaching staff knows more than some here believe.

 

You'd think at some point some of the folks here might consider they're wrong?!   (Whoops,  what am I thinking?!   Fat chance of that happening....   <<sigh....>> )

are you saying all of our players have done good and have been capable of everything asked of them?

[jemack]

9 pass deflections and 1 pick later and the 20th ranked pass defense later. I highly doubt our GM is paying Vaughn to make tackles to extend drives. According to Football Database he has as many penalties as pass deflections (9). I will say I dont know how accurate this is. But if true it just is a small sample of how awful Vaughn has been overall this year, I mean we are talking up there just behind Seth Olsen. http://www.footballd...ies-player.html

He also tackles the reciever well

[Gavin]

Or maybe, there's no one better to fill that position at this  time........ sad, but true

regardless there is nothing wrong with stating your dislike of how a player has played this season after all we do hold those up that do and have done great or good for us in high regard.

[Gavin]

He also tackles the reciever well

which is always good but this is not the Cover 2 where Corners run up and make the tackle to keep everything in front of them

[NewColtsFan]

are you saying all of our players have done good and have been capable of everything asked of them?

 

 

No.   I'm saying our corners aren't as bad as some here make them out to be. 

 

The NFL is roughly a 60% percent passing league.   Meaning most any team we face is going to complete a minimum of 60% against us.   It's by design.   That's what the NFL wants.    Compounding the problem, we have almost no pass rush.   QB's can sit back and take their time and pick us apart.    Some of our corner play is poor.   But I think the majority of it isn't bad at all.   It is what it is in the modern NFL.    

 

As for penalties....    I'm not overly impressed.    Vaughn doesn't have much experience.   He's learning on the job.   Bills 1st round rookie Stephan Gilmore has even more penalties?     You think the Colts wouldn't like him?

 

I think there's way too much hysteria around here by posters who should know better by now...

[Gavin]

we actually have the 9th most sacks in the league with 32, But Gilmore does have 11 penalties yes but he has also first round talent, Vaughn went undrafted....Im just saying I want the best possible talent and in my opinion Vaughn has not shown it

[jemack]

regardless there is nothing wrong with stating your dislike of how a player has played this season after all we do hold those up that do and have done great or good for us in high regard.

 

 

which is always good but this is not the Cover 2 where Corners run up and make the tackle to keep everything in front of them

I............ Think we agree on Vaughn

 

From 45 Mins ago;

 

"Then this has got to be the slowest week for defensive players in the history of the NFL. He was picked on for 9/10ths of the game and was thrown a gift ( I swear, I saw an Angel deliver the ball to him in slow-mo ), stumbles into the endzone for drama..... D- Player of the Week? To quote my favorite movie.."Well, if that don't beat off"

 

See?

[Gavin]

I............ Think we agree on Vaughn

 

From 45 Mins ago;

 

"Then this has got to be the slowest week for defensive players in the history of the NFL. He was picked on for 9/10ths of the game and was thrown a gift ( I swear, I saw an Angel deliver the ball to him in slow-mo ), stumbles into the endzone for drama..... D- Player of the Week? To quote my favorite movie.."Well, if that don't beat off"

 

See?

Not sure whats going on with Colts.com site here the font is all screwy and has been for a few hours, Its hard read posts

[jemack]

Not sure whats going on with Colts.com site here the font is all screwy and has been for a few hours, Its hard read posts

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[NewColtsFan]

we actually have the 9th most sacks in the league with 32, But Gilmore does have 11 penalties yes but he has also first round talent, Vaughn went undrafted....Im just saying I want the best possible talent and in my opinion Vaughn has not shown it

 

 

I went to both the Colts.com stats section and the NFL.com stats section.

 

Turns out,  we do NOT have 32 sacks.    We've given up 32 sacks.   Luck has been sacked 32 times.    The Colts defense has recorded just 24 sacks.     Less than 2 a game.     I don't know where that ranks.    Mathis has 7 of them.  Hughes as 4.   No one else has more than 2.  

 

Not blaming you.   Just noting that the stats have a glitch in them and that they're wrong. 

 

Here are the Colts stats:

 

http://www.nfl.com/t...istics?team=IND

[coltmb]

I really do not like Vaughn, he is mediocre at best. That's not the thing that makes me not like him, it's the celebrating on EVERY play. He will be burned and reciever drops the pass, but this guy thinks he just made the play of the year and starts jumping up and down, waving his hands. THAT is what bothers me the most about him.

 

I'm not going to make * statements, like "I could have made that pick" and stuff to that degree, give the guy credit he had a few good plays last game, but this still doesn't make up for most of his plays.

 

Everyone was "happy" when Powers went down, Powers is 10xs the DB as Vaughn.

[Gavin]

I went to both the Colts.com stats section and the NFL.com stats section.

 

Turns out,  we do NOT have 32 sacks.    We've given up 32 sacks.   Luck has been sacked 32 times.    The Colts defense has recorded just 24 sacks.     Less than 2 a game.     I don't know where that ranks.    Mathis has 7 of them.  Hughes as 4.   No one else has more than 2.  

 

Not blaming you.   Just noting that the stats have a glitch in them and that they're wrong. 

 

Here are the Colts stats:

 

http://www.nfl.com/t...istics?team=IND

Appreciate the corection on that, thanks for settin me straight on that one. That sure is not many (24) now that you mention it 32 sacks GIVEN UP does sound alot more like it

[Gavin]

I really do not like Vaughn, he is mediocre at best. That's not the thing that makes me not like him, it's the celebrating on EVERY play. He will be burned and reciever drops the pass, but this guy thinks he just made the play of the year and starts jumping up and down, waving his hands. THAT is what bothers me the most about him.

 

I'm not going to make * statements, like "I could have made that pick" and stuff to that degree, give the guy credit he had a few good plays last game, but this still doesn't make up for most of his plays.

 

Everyone was "happy" when Powers went down, Powers is 10xs the DB as Vaughn.

Meh Powers does not draw penalties like Vaughn has but his cover skills are not much better

[ColtsBlueFL]

Excuse me for being Sir Buzz Killington but Locker played that pick 6 so terribly I would have been able to pick that off and fall in the end zone. Regardless, congratulations to Vaughn and way to make the play when it's there.

 

True, but he did recognize Locker's telegraph an made it count. To me, it was the two huge plays AFTER the pick six that Vaughn made that was awesome. No doubt he was energized after that pick 6 and used it to fuel his continued play afterward.

[coltsfanmilyman]

Considering he was signed to be our Nickel CB, I would say he has filled in admirably. I believe that with Powers on the IR he has played his last down as a Colt. Look for a CB to be drafted or possibly a FA pick-up and Vaughn to go back to the Nickel CB. Everybody gets burned now and then and everybody gives up plays, it happens but give the man credit for stepping up to the #2 CB position.


Hopefully he and Butler can continue to make positive strides in this defense and get even better by next season.

[PrincetonTiger]

Cassius is playing well