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[BuildTheMonster]

Just saw they are going to investigate Arians for tampering because of his comments on suh. I don't understand why.

[willysp]

Just saw they are going to investigate Arians for tampering because of his comments on suh. I don't understand why.

Link, please?

I've seen speculation from the mediots, but not the definitive statement that you reference.

Media:

http://profootballta...mpering-policy/

"The league has declined comment on whether Arians’ comments violate the anti-tampering policy."

[JoKeR]

What? We don't want a over rated temper tantrum.

[HtownColt]

“I’d love to have him on my team,” said Arians regarding Lions defensive tackle Ndamukon Suh. “I like the way he plays. He plays aggressive, hard, fast and physical.”
Since Suh remains two years away from free agency, it’s not tampering in the classic sense. But it could be tampering in the literal sense.
The league’s anti-tampering policy prohibits “[a]ny public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club’s player . . . to a member of the news media.” The policy includes this specific example of a forbidden statement: “He’s an excellent player, and we’d very much like to have him if he were available, but another club holds his rights.”

[oldunclemark]

That's nothing..Its like Rex saying..."who wouldnt want Peyton Manning?"/

Same thing.

[Hans Moleman]

Seems pretty cut and dried that what Arians said could be considered tampering if that's an example of it. Anybody know what the fine is for it? Is it just cash, or could we be out a draft pick?

[HtownColt]

That's nothing..Its like Rex saying..."who wouldnt want Peyton Manning?"/

Same thing.

thats exactly how I see it

[JoKeR]

I doubting he gets punished for but I'm getting tired of the NFL stuff. The guy is 2 years away from FA, give me a break NFL. If you take away a draft pick, I will think the NFL is tampering.

[Warhawk]

Seems pretty cut and dried that what Arians said could be considered tampering if that's an example of it. Anybody know what the fine is for it? Is it just cash, or could we be out a draft pick?

Well, according to one commenter on that article, the punishment is that Suh will be allowed to use a baseball bat to cripple Andrew Luck on Sunday.

[The Fish]

Silly.

I just hope we don't lose a draft pick.

[JoKeR]

Well, according to one commenter on that article, the punishment is that Suh will be allowed to use a baseball bat to cripple Andrew Luck on Sunday.

Yeah that comment had over 20 dislikes and 2 likes. Obviously he's biased against the Colts.

[FireJimCaldwell]

Based on the rule and example given by the NFL he clearly violated the rule, but I don't believe there is any malicious intent or recruiting going on it. It was in response to Schaub saying he wouldn't want Suh on the Texans.

It's no big deal, but will likely end up with a fine anyway. They have rules like this for a reason, so if you have the rule in place it needs to be enforced, or nothing will prevent someone for doing something more serious.

It's a lot like that speeding ticket I got thrown out of court on Tuesday. It was just a waste of time.

[Smonroe]

“I’d love to have him on my team,” said Arians regarding Lions defensive tackle Ndamukon Suh. “I like the way he plays. He plays aggressive, hard, fast and physical.”
Since Suh remains two years away from free agency, it’s not tampering in the classic sense. But it could be tampering in the literal sense.
The league’s anti-tampering policy prohibits “[a]ny public or private statement of interest, qualified or unqualified, in another club’s player . . . to a member of the news media.” The policy includes this specific example of a forbidden statement: “He’s an excellent player, and we’d very much like to have him if he were available, but another club holds his rights.”

Yep, it's pretty clear he violated the rule to some extent. I hope they keep in mind the context of his statement.

[Hans Moleman]

Well, according to one commenter on that article, the punishment is that Suh will be allowed to use a baseball bat to cripple Andrew Luck on Sunday.

Well, since we're already on the hook for tampering, we may as well throw him an extra 100K to make it a whiffleball bat.

[TKnight85]

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[gbrads_rants]

I'd like Suh to be on the other side of Redding...a D Line of Redding Chapman and Suh......my God.......MY GOD!!!! What a nightmare!

[Coltswarriors]

LOL?

Are you serious?

[lollygagger8]

Suh kicks QB's square in the jewels, and Arians is getting investigated!??!?? What in the Roger Gooddell is going on around here?

[Superman]

Based on the rule and example given by the NFL he clearly violated the rule, but I don't believe there is any malicious intent or recruiting going on it. It was in response to Schaub saying he wouldn't want Suh on the Texans.

It's no big deal, but will likely end up with a fine anyway. They have rules like this for a reason, so if you have the rule in place it needs to be enforced, or nothing will prevent someone for doing something more serious.

It's a lot like that speeding ticket I got thrown out of court on Tuesday. It was just a waste of time.

On the other hand, this happens all the time. I've never seen this type of comment punished before, not that I can remember at least. Someone else mentioned Rex Ryan's comments about Peyton Manning, and there's many other examples.

[willysp]

A few comments:

• The NFL has not said they would investigate BA, so it's all speculation
  
• How could the NFL possibly do anything to BA after giving Suh no more than a trivial slap on the wrist after several years of dirty play?
  
• AND most important of all: What is BA thinking? Suh does NOT belong on the Colts! Can't believe Irsay would allow it.

[SteelCityColt]

Crazy, but by the rule quoted he has broken it. Still it's obvious that wasn't his intent, though maybe a little bit of psyche out before Sunday

[corgi]

It's stuff like this that makes me hate the NFL. You can't say "he's a great player who wouldn't want him", or "he's ten pounds of dog crap in a five pound bag." The league needs to be investigated for being ridiculous. A word of warning to all.... don't compliment women if they are married because it can be considered tampering because she "could" get divorced in two years.

[shakedownstreet]

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totally agree!

[Stephen]

Utter nonsense

[shakedownstreet]

ah reckon it's about time to put out the far and call in the dawgs

[FireJimCaldwell]

On the other hand, this happens all the time. I've never seen this type of comment punished before, not that I can remember at least. Someone else mentioned Rex Ryan's comments about Peyton Manning, and there's many other examples.

I guess it would all depend on exact quotes. I know that if I were Arians and I were fined then next week when asked about what are his thoughts about Chris Johnson or Jake Locker, I would be like. "Mr. Johnson & Mr. Locker are under contract with the Tennessee Titans, therefore NFL rules prohibit me from talking about a player under contract with another team". It would suck for the reporters, but it would prove a point. Then I would appeal the fine, and make it know that would be my stance for the rest of the season. "Mr. Schaub & Mr. Foster are under contract......"

In the least he might be fined 5-10k, but for those talking about losing draft picks, that is going a bit overboard.

[deedub75]

He should be fired and banned from the league for 10 years!

[shakedownstreet]

saints fans want roger goodell investigated for tampering

[Nobody]

He doesn't fit our scheme at all and he is 2 years away from FA. C'mon NFL, really?

[Tark The Shark]

If the NFL fines us for Arian's comments, that would be ridiculous.

Just because he said he would love to have him on our team?

Heck, I would love to have Calvin Johnson on my fantasy team, is Goodell going to fine me now?

[HtownColt]

In Suh's defense he had 1 penalty called on him all year according to Numbers Never Lie and that 500+ players have more personal foul penalties called on them than Suh this year

[braveheartcolt]

I was Arians, and I got fined, I'd Suh.

[sb41champs]

Can you say..........

- oh wait - the NFL won't let me say that or they'll fine me !!

[hawkeyes]

Come on Bruce we dont want that dirty player on our team!

[Gavin]

Just another example of Goodells foolish behavior as commisioner

[FireJimCaldwell]

In Suh's defense he had 1 penalty called on him all year according to Numbers Never Lie and that 500+ players have more personal foul penalties called on them than Suh this year

He had an offsides penalty in week 2 and that is it.

[House]

Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

[HtownColt]

There is nothing to investigate. Since when is it a crime to give an all pro player credit for being a great player at his position

[JoKeR]

It's stuff like this that makes me hate the NFL. You can't say "he's a great player who wouldn't want him", or "he's ten pounds of dog crap in a five pound bag." The league needs to be investigated for being ridiculous. A word of warning to all.... don't compliment women if they are married because it can be considered tampering because she "could" get divorced in two years.

I'm out of Likes today, bravo sir.

[DarkHorseColts]

"The league has declined comment on whether Arians’ comments violate the anti-tampering policy."

I'd like to interpret this as "yeah, he technically did it... but we are letting him off with a verbal warning, maybe a fine."