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[coltsguy510]

1. OLB Ezekial Ansah

3. S TJ Mcdonald

4. CB Micah Hyde

Ansah is the best athlete in the draft, besides Margus Hunt, and has unlimited potential. Mcdonald is a hard hitter and could set the tone for our D. Hyde has good ball skills and recognition.

[coltsrule91]

i dont like us going LB in the first round. id rather go safety or guard.

[Nobody]

Ansah is the best athlete in the draft, besides Margus Hunt, and has unlimited potential.

Dion Jordan is a 6'7 DE/LB who covers and plays WR. He is a better athlete and prospect.

[coltsguy510]

Dion Jordan is a 6'7 DE/LB who covers and plays WR. He is a better athlete and prospect.

No he's not. Ansah has a 39 inch vertical at 6-6 and 270 pounds, ran track for BYU, and tried out for the basketball team. He lines up at NT, 5-tech DE, and OLB at BYU. He ran a timed 10.9 in the 100 meter dash at his size. He is a better athlete than Jordan.

[Bleedin Blue]

I disagree...game changing linebackers should be a first round pick. Safeties don't usually make it into the first round unless they are elite but then usually go in the first 10 picks. Solid safeties can be found as low as the 4th round. Let's look at some of the recent great 1st round linebackers...

2012 - Luke Keuchly
- Whitney Merciless

2011 - Von Miller
- Aldon Smith
- Ryan Kerrigan

2010 - Sean Weatherspoon

These guys can be game changers.

[coltsrule91]

I disagree...game changing linebackers should be a first round pick. Safeties don't usually make it into the first round unless they are elite but then usually go in the first 10 picks. Solid safeties can be found as low as the 4th round. Let's look at some of the recent great 1st round linebackers...

2012 - Luke Keuchly
- Whitney Merciless

2011 - Von Miller
- Aldon Smith
- Ryan Kerrigan

2010 - Sean Weatherspoon

These guys can be game changers.

miller, smith, and kerrigan are doing their thing, but i havent heard much of luke and merciless. I only say we dont need lb because I feel we're really strong at that position. What we need is a safety that can make big plays so bethea doesnt always have to make the tackles. not saying bethea cant tackle but hes a better player when hes asked to be a ball hawk

[Nobody]

No he's not. Ansah has a 39 inch vertical at 6-6 and 270 pounds, ran track for BYU, and tried out for the basketball team. He lines up at NT, 5-tech DE, and OLB at BYU. He ran a timed 10.9 in the 100 meter dash at his size. He is a better athlete than Jordan.

Wow! He plays NT! He's so athletic!

I'll take the guy who can play receiver.

[Palo Alto To Indy]

Here's mine:

1) Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
3) Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
4) Josh Evans, Safety, Florida
5) Emory Blake, WR, Auburn
6) Baker Steinkuhler, DE, Nebraska
7) Trent Murphy, OLB, Stanford

[Palo Alto To Indy]

OR

Trade 1st Rounder to 2nd Round and pick up a 5th rounder
Trade 2014 pick(s) for 2nd rounder

2) Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
2) Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
3) Shayne Skov, ILB/OLB, Stanford OR Quanterus Smith, OLB, Western Kentucky OR Bacari Rambo, Safety, Georgia
4) Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina
5) Quinton Patton, WR, Lousiana Tech
6) Baker Steinkuhler, DE, Nebraska
7) Dustin Hopkins, Kicker, Floride State OR Brandon McGee, CB, Miami

[coltsguy510]

Wow! He plays NT! He's so athletic!

I'll take the guy who can play receiver.

I'll take the guy who has a 39 inch vert and can run 100 meters in 10.9 seconds.

[Nobody]

I'll take the guy who has a 39 inch vert and can run 100 meters in 10.9 seconds.

Really? You'll take a guy with a higher vert over a DE who can cover WRs? Okaaayyyy.

Either way, Ansah is far from a first round talent, even if he is taken that high.

Also, Hyde is a S in the NFL, and I certainly hope we don't draft two safeties early unless they are both tremendous value, which Hyde is not, he's actually a reach.

[coltsguy510]

Really? You'll take a guy with a higher vert over a DE who can cover WRs? Okaaayyyy.

Either way, Ansah is far from a first round talent, even if he is taken that high.

Also, Hyde is a S in the NFL, and I certainly hope we don't draft two safeties early unless they are both tremendous value, which Hyde is not, he's actually a reach.

He is a first round talent. He has all the talent in the world. Ansah can take on 2 interior Lineman at once and I would rather have that than a guy who can cover WR's. Just so you know, if we don't get Ansah I want Jordan.

[BLOODontheTRACKS]

i dont like us going LB in the first round. id rather go safety or guard.

?? u must like having no pass rush

[BLOODontheTRACKS]

i dont like us going LB in the first round. id rather go safety or guard.

[BLOODontheTRACKS]

i dont like us going LB in the first round. id rather go safety or guard.

[coltsrule91]

?? u must like having no pass rush

did you watch any game outside of patriots? brady almost never gets pressured. we get to the qb just fine.

[BLOODontheTRACKS]

did you watch any game outside of patriots? brady almost never gets pressured. we get to the qb just fine.

u got me...that's the only game i've watched.

[coltnorth]

Ezekial Ansah is a unique talent. A guy with that size, speed and instincts is rare. He needs to be evaluated better so is NFL playing weight can be projected. Right now he looks like he could play similar to Aldon smith or JJ watt. He would more likely play on the line and if he put on a little more weight, would be a scary 5 tech DE. Speed to get to the QB and chase down RB and the length and vertical to bat down passes. He will be examined closely through the lead up to the draft. Ogletree from Georgia would be a great get too. I know people or really happy with our ILB right now but he would be great to add to the rotation with freeman and pat. He is very fast, sheds blocks very well and is a violent hitter. The other safety from goergia was a great hitter too. Not Rambo but the other guy. Cant remember his name. A latter round pick maybe

[coltsfanatic24]

team needs- cb,og,ss,olb

1.cb xavier rhodes
3.ss bacarri rambo
4.olb trevardo williams

[colts17]

the better the pass rush its easier for corners they dont have to be great when have a good pass rush

[OllyDawes]

Just to add my two cents; I'd love Dion Jordan. If he can be a more consistent pass rusher, this guy could be a stud in our defense.

[stat2883]

team needs- cb,og,ss,olb

1.cb xavier rhodes
3.ss bacarri rambo
4.olb trevardo williams

Good thing with that is those positions can be filled pretty well outside of the first round usually. Unless there's an elite prospect, it may not be a bad idea to trade down and stockpile.

[HtownColt]

I'm taking Sheldon Richardson from Missouri 6'3 295lbs DE or Tony Jefferson SS Oklahoma

[Gavin]

He is a first round talent. He has all the talent in the world. Ansah can take on 2 interior Lineman at once and I would rather have that than a guy who can cover WR's. Just so you know, if we don't get Ansah I want Jordan.

Thing about Jordan is only 2 years of good but not elite production and teams want guys that can produce, I think he will but from what I have seen its not at an elite level which if we are drafting Freeneys replacement then I want a guy that has produced at an elite level and thats a guy like Brandon Jenkins at 3-4 OLB who is injured this year but was elite before that, I also like Anzah but he only has 1 year of production and that has included only 4 sacks

Here is another scenario I would look at

Trade up to the 2nd round from the 3rd and get a 5th in process by offering a future 2nd or 3rd round pick to the Jags

1.Chance Warmack or Barrett Jones (I expect Xavier Rhodes to be gone by the time we pick)
2.Brandon Jenkins
4.Bacarri Rambo
5.Kwame Geathers

Not sure if I would do that, many things to consider like if Jenkins is 100 percent by that time or do we think we have a legit shot at a Tracey Porter in FA and thats even if he becomes a FA which I dont think is very likely, I see him becoming Denvers #1 Corner when Champ retires, But just think Rhodes and even Amerson will be gone by the time we pick

[coltsguy510]

Thing about Jordan is only 2 years of good but not elite production and teams want guys that can produce, I think he will but from what I have seen its not at an elite level which if we are drafting Freeneys replacement then I want a guy that has produced at an elite level and thats a guy like Brandon Jenkins at 3-4 OLB who is injured this year but was elite before that, I also like Anzah but he only has 1 year of production and that has included only 4 sacks

Here is another scenario I would look at

Trade up to the 2nd round from the 3rd and get a 5th in process by offering a future 2nd or 3rd round pick to the Jags

1.Chance Warmack or Barrett Jones (I expect Xavier Rhodes to be gone by the time we pick)
2.Brandon Jenkins
4.Bacarri Rambo
5.Kwame Geathers

Not sure if I would do that, many things to consider like if Jenkins is 100 percent by that time or do we think we have a legit shot at a Tracey Porter in FA and thats even if he becomes a FA which I dont think is very likely, I see him becoming Denvers #1 Corner when Champ retires, But just think Rhodes and even Amerson will be gone by the time we pick

How about

1. Warmack or Jonathan Cooper
3. Jenkins
4. Rambo
5. Geathers

[Gavin]

How about

1. Warmack or Jonathan Cooper
3. Jenkins
4. Rambo
5. Geathers

I like it but do ya think Rambo falls that far?, he has had off the field issues but he is one of the top Safeties

[coltsguy510]

I like it but do ya think Rambo falls that far?, he has had off the field issues but he is one of the top Safeties

Thing about Jordan is only 2 years of good but not elite production and teams want guys that can produce, I think he will but from what I have seen its not at an elite level which if we are drafting Freeneys replacement then I want a guy that has produced at an elite level and thats a guy like Brandon Jenkins at 3-4 OLB who is injured this year but was elite before that, I also like Anzah but he only has 1 year of production and that has included only 4 sacks

Here is another scenario I would look at

Trade up to the 2nd round from the 3rd and get a 5th in process by offering a future 2nd or 3rd round pick to the Jags

1.Chance Warmack or Barrett Jones (I expect Xavier Rhodes to be gone by the time we pick)
2.Brandon Jenkins
4.Bacarri Rambo
5.Kwame Geathers

Not sure if I would do that, many things to consider like if Jenkins is 100 percent by that time or do we think we have a legit shot at a Tracey Porter in FA and thats even if he becomes a FA which I dont think is very likely, I see him becoming Denvers #1 Corner when Champ retires, But just think Rhodes and even Amerson will be gone by the time we pick

You literally just had him in the same exact place lol.

[Gavin]

You literally just had him in the same exact place lol.

Whoops it 2:25 am here lol, But I like Cooper if we are going to a primarily Zone Blocking scheme, if not then no because I think thats what he fits and scouting reports say the same thing (I've seen him a couple times but not much)

[coltsfanatic24]

I like it but do ya think Rambo falls that far?, he has had off the field issues but he is one of the top Safeties

This is mcshay's top 32 big board with player grades i doubt warmack falls out of the top 10. Every player that was in the top 10 on the big board last year went in the top 10 in the draft. the players in the 20's are the guys will most likely target in the draft.

1.Jarvis Jones olb 96
2.Star Lotulelei dt 96
3.Chance Warmack g 96
4.Manti Teo ilb 96
5.Damontre Moore de 96
6.Luke Joeckel ot 96
7.Johnathan Hankins dt 95
8.Barkevious Mingo de 95
9.Geno Smith qb 94
10.Bjoern Werner de 94
11.Dee Milliner cb 94
12.Jonathan Cooper og 94
13.Sylvester Williams dt 94
14.Dion Jordan de 93
15.Cornellius Carradine de 92
16.Johnathan Jenkins dt 92
17.Alec Ogletree ilb 92
18.Sam Montgomery de 91
19.Taylor Lewan ot 91
20.Matt Barkley qb 91
21.Kenny Vaccaro ss 91
22.Sheldon Richardson dt 90
23.Corey Lemonier olb 90
24.Justin Hunter wr 90
25.Keenan Allen wr 89
26.Ezekial Ansah de 89
27.Kawann Short dt 89
28.Dallas Thomas ot 89
29.Zach Ertz te 89
30.Johnthan Banks cb 89
31.Robert Woods wr 88
32.Bennie Logan dt 88

[Gavin]

Logan
Ertz
Short
Ansah
Jordan
Sylvester Willaims
Moore

I disagree with

[Gavin]

This is mcshay's top 32 big board with player grades i doubt warmack falls out of the top 10. Every player that was in the top 10 on the big board last year went in the top 10 in the draft. the players in the 20's are the guys will most likely target in the draft.

1.Jarvis Jones olb 96
2.Star Lotulelei dt 96
3.Chance Warmack g 96
4.Manti Teo ilb 96
5.Damontre Moore de 96
6.Luke Joeckel ot 96
7.Johnathan Hankins dt 95
8.Barkevious Mingo de 95
9.Geno Smith qb 94
10.Bjoern Werner de 94
11.Dee Milliner cb 94
12.Jonathan Cooper og 94
13.Sylvester Williams dt 94
14.Dion Jordan de 93
15.Cornellius Carradine de 92
16.Johnathan Jenkins dt 92
17.Alec Ogletree ilb 92
18.Sam Montgomery de 91
19.Taylor Lewan ot 91
20.Matt Barkley qb 91
21.Kenny Vaccaro ss 91
22.Sheldon Richardson dt 90
23.Corey Lemonier olb 90
24.Justin Hunter wr 90
25.Keenan Allen wr 89
26.Ezekial Ansah de 89
27.Kawann Short dt 89
28.Dallas Thomas ot 89
29.Zach Ertz te 89
30.Johnthan Banks cb 89
31.Robert Woods wr 88
32.Bennie Logan dt 88

I disagree with

Logan-Not sure if his production and weight of 287lbs does him any favors, good pass rusher from the interior no doubt but does not have the numbers to show for it
Ertz-Fleener wasn't a 1st round pick last year and no Tight End in this upcoming draft is as good as Fleener was in college
Short-May get into the 1st, been consistent and productive But could easily slip to the 2nd
Ansah-Production does not say 1st round pick, and hasn't been producing long
Jordan-same as Ansah
Sylvester Willaims-I dont see more then 2 Nose Tackles going in the 1st

Edit:Double Post

[Hans Moleman]

Wouldn't shock me at all if Trent Murphy's the guy in the 1st if he declares.

Nobody's talking about him now, but he's going to be this draft's version of Chandler Jones- a 2nd/3rd round name now that will be a 1st rounder by the time it's all said and done. Like Jones, Murphy is a big 3-4 OLB that can get to the passer and play the run (he's actually a better pass rusher than Jones was at the same stage).

[OllyDawes]

I disagree with

Logan-Not sure if his production and weight of 287lbs does him any favors, good pass rusher from the interior no doubt but does not have the numbers to show for it
Ertz-Fleener wasn't a 1st round pick last year and no Tight End in this upcoming draft is as good as Fleener was in college
Short-May get into the 1st, been consistent and productive But could easily slip to the 2nd
Ansah-Production does not say 1st round pick, and hasn't been producing long
Jordan-same as Ansah
Sylvester Willaims-I dont see more then 2 Nose Tackles going in the 1st

Edit:Double Post

Dion Jordan has 12.5 sacks in 25 games. Not bad at all. As I said, needs to be more consistent and add more moves, but I can't understand why you'd rather have an injured Brandon Jenkins.