I saw Manson live first in 1997 and most recently in 2009, and the guy still puts on one hell of a show. Born Villain is a fantastic album... and I find people are still complaining that it doesn't sound like what he did back in the day. We all change, man. The first Sabbath album I ever heard was Vol. 4 which holds a special place in my heart, but for me Black Sabbath and Master of Reality are awesome.
Manson at one point was a very creative artist, I still respect the hell out of him but he hasn't been the same to me since after GOAG. If he ever had a reunion of his Holy Wood band, I'd buy a ticket out of state in a heart beat. He just is not the same without those guys IMO.